iPhone 5S/5C thread

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

LOL, so iPhone 4 gets better battery life (than Razr HD) if you don't use it.

I had two iPhone 4, ATT & Verizon, both black, and that Hummingbird era SoC is not very efficient at all. In fact, it drained faster (as iPod) than a similar Hummingbird device, Samsung Infuse (as a portable player).

Sometimes, you simply can't get around capacity. No replacement for displacement. Despite what your girlfriend says, size does matter.

You're just being obtuse. Idle doesn't mean you're not using it. Notifications come through still, and that IS active use. Of course you also put words in my mouth because I never said the iPhone 4 does better than the Razr HD in runtime.

I said iOS is more efficient in battery usage than Android due to the sync and pull operations that Android continues to rely on. As Brian Klug said, Android is always 1 wakelock away from getting bad battery life.

My whole point isn't to argue what device is better or what not. I'm just pointing out your flawed reasoning. You can't have all things equal in comparing an iPhone 4 and Razr HD. There's the inherent screen difference, battery size difference, and OS difference. Even if you setup the same accounts and synced the same way, there's those few differences I pointed out first you cannot overcome.

 

[MrX8503]

LTE has not been a battery drain since 2012, see Apple's iPhone 5 battery life improvement over iPhone 4S

There is no way, if other variables are fixed, that a iPhone 4 can outperform Razr HD in battery life. There is user error somewhere, or unfair conditions are given.

LTE hasn't been a battery drain since the move to 28nm. I'm not sure what generation LTE chipset the RAZR uses, but on the iPhone 5 Apple is using a 28nm LTE chipset. LTE before this was pretty power hungry.

 

[purbeast0]

holy moly this openwheel guy sure has an agenda. just read through the past few pages and it amazes me that someone who obviously has no interest in the 5s/5c continues to come back into a thread to discuss it and push his agenda.

 

[bearxor]

On iOS when I swipe it brings up a button for archive but not delete and there's no setting option to change it. On my nexus I was able to set it so a swipe was a delete. It just makes it easier sifting through junk

Settings > Mail, Contacts, Calendars > GMail account > Tap your email address > Advanced

There you should find the options you're looking for. Specifically, 'Move discarded messages into'.

 

[lopri]

5c apparently not selling so hot.

http://gizmodo.com/best-buys-selling-the-iphone-5c-for-50-this-weekend-1441112319

In conjunction with the apparent shortage of the gold colored 5s, you have to wonder what kind of.. eh, never mind.

 

[openwheel]

5C had to come down in price eventually. It's $50-$100 overpriced especially since iPhone 5 is still available.

 

[Eug]

5c apparently not selling so hot.

http://gizmodo.com/best-buys-selling-the-iphone-5c-for-50-this-weekend-1441112319

I already posted that a few pages ago, cuz I wondered the same thing about the $50 discount. (Or was that in another thread? I can't remember.)

However, these stats seems to partially contradict it.



The 5S is outselling the 5C on all 4 major US carriers, but the 5C was still within the top three for all carriers in September, sometimes behind the Galaxy S4, and sometimes ahead of it.

What floors me though is the iPhone 5 was in the top 2 for all carriers in August. It was actually number 1 at AT&T. Most of those people who got the iPhone 5 in August must be kicking themselves now.

 

[Ns1]

well to be fair, bestbuy is also discounting the S4 by $50.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

LTE hasn't been a battery drain since the move to 28nm. I'm not sure what generation LTE chipset the RAZR uses, but on the iPhone 5 Apple is using a 28nm LTE chipset. LTE before this was pretty power hungry.

I'd argue that LTE was never an issue to begin with. It was the fact that LTE was not ready worldwide and there wasn't a really good solution for early deployments but to just use a separate LTE modem attached to the bus. That's how they got phones like the Thunderbolt working, and as a result it got pretty bad battery life.

 

[Eug]

well to be fair, bestbuy is also discounting the S4 by $50.

The S4 is older though.

I'd argue that LTE was never an issue to begin with. It was the fact that LTE was not ready worldwide and there wasn't a really good solution for early deployments but to just use a separate LTE modem attached to the bus. That's how they got phones like the Thunderbolt working, and as a result it got pretty bad battery life.

How is LTE implemented on the iPhone 5? I know it's a later generation process (28 nm?) but isn't it just tacked on?

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Video benchmark:

5S vs 5C vs 5 vs 4S vs 4 vs 3GS vs 3G vs 2G

It basically shows that later OSes get more bloaty and slower. So everytime we talk about how the iPhone 4 was fast for its time against the competition, someone will bring up how it sucks balls on iOS7.

On the other hand Android phones have gotten faster over time with more hardware acceleration and more optimized software.

I also wonder if he got that swipe motion done in 1 try... heh

 

[bearxor]

The S4 is older though.


How is LTE implemented on the iPhone 5? I know it's a later generation process (28 nm?) but isn't it just tacked on?

No, the iphone 5 used the newer Qualcomm radio chip that integrates CDMA, GSM and LTE in to one chip. The 8600 is the power management chip.

Buts most Android phones have been that way for a couple of years. It was only the first generation or so that required separate modems.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

No, the iphone 5 used the newer Qualcomm radio chip that integrates CDMA, GSM and LTE in to one chip. The 8600 is the power management chip.

Buts most Android phones have been that way for a couple of years. It was only the first generation or so that required separate modems.

That's most likely a huge contributor to bad battery life. The whole msm_hsic issue on the Nexus 4 is a result of having a separate modem for example.

 

[mikegg]

5c apparently not selling so hot.

http://gizmodo.com/best-buys-selling-the-iphone-5c-for-50-this-weekend-1441112319

In conjunction with the apparent shortage of the gold colored 5s, you have to wonder what kind of.. eh, never mind.

Retail stores do this all the time. Wallmart did this with the iPhone 5 when it just came out.

They don't care about the $50 if they can make a lot more selling you a 2 year contract.

 

[Joe1987]

I suspect the 5c will go free with contract over the holidays in promotions, that's what it was made for, Apple's just floating the price a bit to see what the sweet spot is.

No one I know in meatspace is getting a 5c, they're all getting 5s's.

 

[Eug]

GSM Arena battery life tests:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-iphone-5s-battery-test/

This puts it in the middle to maybe top third for each of the tests (if you expand the graphs), but it lasts longer than the 5c and 5.

Strangely enough, while the RAZR MAXX dominates for video playback, it actually does worse than the iPhone 5S for web browsing.

This is what their endurance rating means:

So, time for the endurance rating and the Apple iPhone 5s scored very pleasing 54 hours.This means that you will only need to charge it once every 54 hours if you use it for an hour of web browsing, an hour of video playback and an hour of talk time per day. Just for a comparison, the iPhone 5 scored an endurance rating of 51 hours.

However, it also seems they have found some sort of battery drain bug in the iPhone 5s/5c/5, that sometimes drains the battery overnight.

 

[saratoga172]

Here is my work iPhone 5c battery life. Default sync options out of the box. Nothing has been turned off. The only app I've installed is Speedtest.net and I've run that 4-5 times on top of normal usage.

 

[Eug]

Thanks for posting that. Pretty good, and a real-world example.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

However, it also seems they have found some sort of battery drain bug in the iPhone 5s/5c/5, that sometimes drains the battery overnight.

There is definitely something that drains my battery when idle. Didnt use my phone from about 8pm to 4am and woke up in the middle of the night to see it almost dead.

 

[saratoga172]

There is definitely something that drains my battery when idle. Didnt use my phone from about 8pm to 4am and woke up in the middle of the night to see it almost dead.

I had something similar with the beta. What worked for me was to make an iCloud backup, clean wipe and restore the phone, then you could restore the iCloud backup. Night and day difference. Haven't had any problems since the gm release though.

 

[Red Storm]

Here is my work iPhone 5c battery life. Default sync options out of the box. Nothing has been turned off. The only app I've installed is Speedtest.net and I've run that 4-5 times on top of normal usage.

So does it say you last charged it 8 days ago, or 6 hours ago? If 8 days ago, you've used it for 6 hours in that time? Not sure if I'm getting what those two numbers mean.

 

[TerryMathews]

So does it say you last charged it 8 days ago, or 6 hours ago? If 8 days ago, you've used it for 6 hours in that time? Not sure if I'm getting what those two numbers mean.

Doesn't the last charge only update on a full charge?

 

[Red Storm]

Doesn't the last charge only update on a full charge?

I have no idea.

 

[TerryMathews]

I have no idea.

That's the way it used to work as I recall, but the last iPhone I used was the 3g.

 

[openwheel]

I highly doubt the phone lasted 8 days on standby.