iPhone 5S/5C thread

[evident]

$425 is a good deal unlocked, if it's in good condition.

yep, and the phone is also under warranty until next july.

 

[Bman123]

I'm still waiting for them to bump up the screen size. A 4.5 inch iPhone would be perfect and I'd finally leave android for good.

 

[Eug]

yep, and the phone is also under warranty until next july.

Sweet. If I could find a deal like that, I'd get one for sure (for my wife). It seems people are paying more around here... which is good for my friends upgrading to the 5S.

 

[bearxor]

Try swappa. I just sold mine on there last week for $445.

 

[Eug]

No Swappa in Canada.

 

[bearxor]

Oh yeah, sorry. I forgot... Canadians, hah!

 

[Fingolfin269]

Found a 32gb 5S white in stock locally as I was browsing around last night and decided to pull the trigger. Figure I can use it for a year or so, give it to the gf and use her upgrade for the inevitable larger screen.

It does seem like the apps are more polished than I remember. But there is one noticeable exception. Why in the world can I not sort my playlists in the Spotify app yet have no problem at all doing so in the Android app? Oh well.

 

[evident]

Sweet. If I could find a deal like that, I'd get one for sure (for my wife). It seems people are paying more around here... which is good for my friends upgrading to the 5S.

yep, i got mine on swappa. we are making the move to tmobile as soon as our contracts are up with ATT and my wife doesn't care about the latest and greatest 5S. I don't care either since the screen res is the same as the 5. i'm also nervous about the fingerprint thing too.

now to sell her iphone 4s........

 

[s44]

I feel like my battery life isn't as good as my gs4.

It's probably not. The iPhone, like the One, does well in artificial heavy-use tests where you're basically testing screen on time, but it just doesn't have the reserves to deal with the periodic crappy reception drains that seem to be the more prevalent battery killer.

 

[Red Storm]

It's probably not. The iPhone, like the One, does well in artificial heavy-use tests where you're basically testing screen on time, but it just doesn't have the reserves to deal with the periodic crappy reception drains that seem to be the more prevalent battery killer.

We really need a more real world case test to go along with the benchmark battery tests.

 

[Eug]

It's probably not. The iPhone, like the One, does well in artificial heavy-use tests where you're basically testing screen on time, but it just doesn't have the reserves to deal with the periodic crappy reception drains that seem to be the more prevalent battery killer.

Not sure about that. We've typically gotten better standby battery life with the iPhone 4 (which admittedly is very old) than with my RAZR HD.

The iPhone 4 has a 1420 mAh battery, but my RAZR HD has a 2530 mAh battery.

I live in a house which has fluctuating signal according to the signal icon, with it often at 1-2 bars.

 

[openwheel]

Not sure about that. We've typically gotten better standby battery life with the iPhone 4 (which admittedly is very old) than with my RAZR HD.

The iPhone 4 has a 1420 mAh battery, but my RAZR HD has a 2530 mAh battery.

I live in a house which has fluctuating signal according to the signal icon, with it often at 1-2 bars.

LOL if you get better battery life using iPhone 4 than the Razr HD then it has to be user error or you are simply lying. Enough of the Android bashing and Apple loving. I get better battery life with Razr M than my fiance's iPhone 5.

 

[s44]

LOL if you get better battery life using iPhone 4 than the Razr HD then it has to be user error or you are simply lying.

No, there's a much better explanation:

LTE

 

[Eug]

LOL if you get better battery life using iPhone 4 than the Razr HD then it has to be user error or you are simply lying. Enough of the Android bashing and Apple loving. I get better battery life with Razr M than my fiance's iPhone 5.

Stop with the hysterical accusations already. These are my observations. Deal with it.

No, there's a much better explanation:

LTE

That could be one explanation, at least part of it.

 

[openwheel]

LTE has not been a battery drain since 2012, see Apple's iPhone 5 battery life improvement over iPhone 4S

There is no way, if other variables are fixed, that a iPhone 4 can outperform Razr HD in battery life. There is user error somewhere, or unfair conditions are given.

 

[s44]

LTE has not been a battery drain since 2012, see Apple's iPhone 5 battery life improvement over iPhone 4S

In Brian's ideal test setup, no. In the real world...

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

LTE has not been a battery drain since 2012, see Apple's iPhone 5 battery life improvement over iPhone 4S

There is no way, if other variables are fixed, that a iPhone 4 can outperform Razr HD in battery life. There is user error somewhere, or unfair conditions are given.

Its hard to fix all other variables given that an iPhone 4 runs a totally different OS. The way apps sync on Android is fundamentally different from iOS and causes more battery drain. That's not saying the Razr HD is not amazing. I'm not saying that I believe an iPhone 4 runs longer either, but in general iOS is more efficient in idle battery compared to Android, and therefore I expect better permanence.

 

[Eug]

LTE has not been a battery drain since 2012, see Apple's iPhone 5 battery life improvement over iPhone 4S

There is no way, if other variables are fixed, that a iPhone 4 can outperform Razr HD in battery life. There is user error somewhere, or unfair conditions are given.

Like I said, stop with the baseless accusations. Sorry if real-world observations don't conform to your pre-conceived biases.

I have these phones in-hand and having been using the the RAZR HD for nearly a year, and the iPhone 4 for 3 years. What about you?

 

[Eug]

Its hard to fix all other variables given that an iPhone 4 runs a totally different OS. The way apps sync on Android is fundamentally different from iOS and causes more battery drain. That's not saying the Razr HD is not amazing. I'm not saying that I believe an iPhone 4 runs longer either, but in general iOS is more efficient in idle battery compared to Android, and therefore I expect better permanence.

The iPhone 4 doesn't do all that well if I'm actively using it. I guess surfing stresses out its piddly CPU. But just sitting there on the table, the standby time is good.

For the RAZR HD, it seems much less consistent. Sometimes it seems OK, and sometimes not so much. And then there are the occasional times it drains completely overnight from 60% down to empty. For the latter, I suspect it's due to some wayward app running in the background, but I've never been able to prove it. This type of fast-draining-doing-nothing behaviour never happens with the iPhone 4.

BTW, I was just checking the specs, and the iPhone 4's standby time is listed by Apple as 300 hours. I don't believe that, but the interesting point is the spec for the iPhone 4S is 200 hours. For the iPhone 5S and 5C, it's listed at 250 hours.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110111223750/http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html
http://www.apple.com/ca/iphone/compare/

So, according to Apple, the iPhone 4 should outlast the iPhone 5S, 5C, and 4S.

Interestingly, the RAZR HD's standby time is rated by Motorola at 286 hours:

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/motorola-razr-hd-1133532/review/9

 

[openwheel]

Like I said, stop with the baseless accusations. Sorry if real-world observations don't conform to your pre-conceived biases.

I have these phones in-hand and having been using the the RAZR HD for nearly a year, and the iPhone 4 for 3 years. What about you?

I have iPhone 5 and Razr M to compare. Razr M outperforms iPhone 5 in battery life. Sorry. It varies from user to user, but your claim that iPhone 4 outperforms Razr HD is simply fantasy. I am not surprised by your claim knowing your bias.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Gmail already does that...?

I think you can swipe, but it doesn't auto delete, it brings up the delete button when you swipe (this is the stock mail app in iOS). Gmail will delete with a swipe, no button press needed (at least on Android, though I'm sure iOS must be the same).

On iOS when I swipe it brings up a button for archive but not delete and there's no setting option to change it. On my nexus I was able to set it so a swipe was a delete. It just makes it easier sifting through junk

 

[openwheel]

Its hard to fix all other variables given that an iPhone 4 runs a totally different OS. The way apps sync on Android is fundamentally different from iOS and causes more battery drain. That's not saying the Razr HD is not amazing. I'm not saying that I believe an iPhone 4 runs longer either, but in general iOS is more efficient in idle battery compared to Android, and therefore I expect better permanence.

LOL, so iPhone 4 gets better battery life (than Razr HD) if you don't use it.

I had two iPhone 4, ATT & Verizon, both black, and that Hummingbird era SoC is not very efficient at all. In fact, it drained faster (as iPod) than a similar Hummingbird device, Samsung Infuse (as a portable player).

Sometimes, you simply can't get around capacity. No replacement for displacement. Despite what your girlfriend says, size does matter.

 

[Eug]

I have iPhone 5 and Razr M to compare. Razr M outperforms iPhone 5 in battery life. Sorry. It varies from user to user, but your claim that iPhone 4 outperforms Razr HD is simply fantasy. I am not surprised by your claim knowing your bias.

So the truth comes out. You are basing your "facts" on two completely different phones, because they happen to agree with your uninformed biases, even though I had already shown official specs illustrating the differences of the iPhone 4 vs. other phones.

Here are the official specs (again):

iPhone 4 - 300 hours
iPhone 4S - 200 hours
iPhone 5 - 225 hours
iPhone 5C - 250 hours
iPhone 5S - 250 hours

Motorola RAZR M - 408 hours
Motorola RAZR HD - 286 hours
Motorola RAZR MAXX HD - 372 hours

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...rola-DROID-RAZR-MAXX-HD/phones/7346,6996,7484

Here is the order in terms of official standby time:

RAZR M
RAZR MAXX HD
iPhone 4
RAZR HD
iPhone 5S (tie)
iPhone 5C (tie)
iPhone 5
iPhone 4S

Now I wonder what other crap you're going to spew now to justify your total misinformation.

 

[openwheel]

OMG you got me with those stated standby time. :biggrin:

I guess a Huyndai will outrun a BMW because it has more stated horse power? You Apple fanatics crack me up.

 

[Eug]

Sometimes, you simply can't get around capacity. No replacement for displacement.

Your RAZR M has a 42% longer battery life than my RAZR HD according to Motorola itself, despite the fact my RAZR HD has a 27% bigger battery.

You just keep digging yourself deeper and deeper...