iPhone 5S/5C thread

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AznAnarchy99

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Got my 5s today. First Apple product ever.

Account syncing is really good compared to android. I love the fingerprint lock. I hate the app store and how they ask for my password every fucking second.
 

Mopetar

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I hate the app store and how they ask for my password every fucking second.

I think you can adjust to some degree how often it asks for your password, but I thought that they said that you could use TouchID with iTunes and the App Store.
 

AznAnarchy99

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I think you can adjust to some degree how often it asks for your password, but I thought that they said that you could use TouchID with iTunes and the App Store.

You can but it will still say "Enter your password before you can use TouchID for purchases". Then every 30 minutes or so it will do it again. Annoying as hell.

I got the Space Grey one from T-Mobile. I figured that if I dont like the phone, I'd sell it a few months down the line and grab a Nexus since iPhones hold value pretty well.
 
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Got my 5s today. First Apple product ever.

Account syncing is really good compared to android. I love the fingerprint lock. I hate the app store and how they ask for my password every fucking second.

What do you mean by this? I personally like how iOS uses push for everything, whereas Android relies on Sync for some things. Those sync operations can consume a lot of wakelocks at times :(
 

AznAnarchy99

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What do you mean by this? I personally like how iOS uses push for everything, whereas Android relies on Sync for some things. Those sync operations can consume a lot of wakelocks at times :(

Yea that and in addition how easily it integrates into the os.

I've noticed I've been dropping down to edge a lot
I don't know if it's cause of t-mobile or if iOS reports reception differently but my gs4 rarely dropped to 4g from lte at all. Oh and this autocorrect sucks
 

TheStu

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Yea that and in addition how easily it integrates into the os.

I've noticed I've been dropping down to edge a lot
I don't know if it's cause of t-mobile or if iOS reports reception differently but my gs4 rarely dropped to 4g from lte at all. Oh and this autocorrect sucks

We'll we'll we'll, if it isn't autocorrect.

The autocorrect takes some getting used to, and all the OSes are using different dictionaries and settings. It could also be that you're going from the GS4 with its 5?" screen to the iPhone with the 4" display.

But the autocorrect is usually amazing for me, it always gets it's vs. its correct (99% success rate), and generally I can just jab my thumbs at the screen and it will pop out the right words.
 

Fingolfin269

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We'll we'll we'll, if it isn't autocorrect.

The autocorrect takes some getting used to, and all the OSes are using different dictionaries and settings. It could also be that you're going from the GS4 with its 5?" screen to the iPhone with the 4" display.

But the autocorrect is usually amazing for me, it always gets it's vs. its correct (99% success rate), and generally I can just jab my thumbs at the screen and it will pop out the right words.

But does it get well vs we'll correct? ;)
 

Fingolfin269

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I keep bouncing back and forth on getting a 5S or not. The last iPhone I had was a 4S and I gave that to the gf about a year ago and picked up a VZW Nexus. When they released the specs of the 5S I was upset, but not surprised, by the lack of a larger screen. Then I bought a tablet (N7 v2) and realize I just don't care about screen size as much and lean much more towards stability, battery life, and a great email client.

They've got some in stock at the local Apple store... decisions, decisions.
 

Mopetar

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But does it get well vs we'll correct? ;)

I was curious so I just tried it out and it seems to from my limited testing (about 10 different sentences) for what that's worth.

It doesn't seem like a difficult problem to solve and it appears that the auto-correct uses the word immediately before or after to determine which it should be. Since one is a noun and the other is a contraction containing a verb, it's fairly easy to distinguish which is correct based on the next word or any words following it.

For example, if I type: Well wishing, it will leave it as well, as "We will wishing" doesn't make much sense in English. If I type Well wish, it changes Well to We'll as it sees a verb and assumes that I meant the future tense.

It seems to trip over dangling clauses, such as: Well, after the movie, go home. However, it might just be interpreting it as an imperative sentence, so I can't say for certain if this is a failure of the algorithm.

It does have problems if used in conjunction with a word that's both a verb and a noun. For example, both water and wound can be used as either a noun or a verb. So if I type "Well water" it won't change it, even if I type the sentence "Well water the plants." but again that could be considered an imperative sentence, though it would be more correct to write it as "Well, water the plants."

My guess is that it just checks the preceding or following word and if it can be sure, it will make the correct decision, otherwise it will just leave it. For the majority of cases it will probably make the correct choice, but there are some edge cases where the correct decision requires seeing more of the sentence before a decision could be made.
 

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I've noticed a problem with the world well after updating to iOS 7. I can't remember having that much of an issue with it using iOS 6.
 

TheStu

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I've never had much luck with well vs. we'll, or were vs. we're. It pretty consistently gets them wrong.
 

AznAnarchy99

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We'll we'll we'll, if it isn't autocorrect.

The autocorrect takes some getting used to, and all the OSes are using different dictionaries and settings. It could also be that you're going from the GS4 with its 5?" screen to the iPhone with the 4" display.

But the autocorrect is usually amazing for me, it always gets it's vs. its correct (99% success rate), and generally I can just jab my thumbs at the screen and it will pop out the right words.

I think it's mostly because I was using swiftkey and it's amazing predictive text. I was making mistakes at first with the iPhone cause of the screen but I'm getting more used to it.

So I will say, after playing with the phone all day is that the apps are way more polished for the iPhone. They all seem to work with flow and fluidity that android doesn't . If you're on android, use the American Express app and imagine that with everything : Facebook Instagram and even the google apps feel better albeit without as frequent updates.

Also tried downloading a zip file today and it wouldn't let me.. Wtf
 

poofyhairguy

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So I will say, after playing with the phone all day is that the apps are way more polished for the iPhone.

Easily.

My wife (iPhone 5 user) always bitches when she gets on my phone. "Why does Facebook/ESPNFantasyFootball/Ourbankapp/etc. suck on your phone?"

I think for most Android users though its one of those things where ignorance is bliss.
 

bearxor

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What has always kind of taken me by surprise is how the popular Google Apps on iPhone always seemed to be ahead of the Android apps.

GMail, Google Maps and Google+ are great examples. They started updating them with new UI's that more matched the UI design of the iPhone and they really started coming together.

But I think something happened at Google. I'm not sure if there were separate iOS and Android teams and maybe now there's not, but they've pretty much converged now and when they started doing that, the iOS apps started going downhill pretty quick. I haven't used Google Maps or Google+ in a while but I have used GMail pretty recently and it feels, to me, like an iOS port of the Android app. Something just isn't 'clicking' in my brain with it.

I've basically purged Google from my iPhone at this point. I don't have a single Google application installed and I'm working up the courage to change my default search provider to Yahoo or Bing. Maybe Yahoo. Because of the smoking hot CEO.
 

poofyhairguy

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OneOfTheseDays

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Newsflash. Yahoo uses Bing.

I've done the Google purge as well and ditched all their grubby little services from my devices. Got tired of being asked for my real name linked to my Youtube and signing up for a useless G+ account.
 

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Easily.

My wife (iPhone 5 user) always bitches when she gets on my phone. "Why does Facebook/ESPNFantasyFootball/Ourbankapp/etc. suck on your phone?"

I think for most Android users though its one of those things where ignorance is bliss.

That's the absolute truth. Android apps are almost like the devs are forced to throw something out there and they half ass it. No comparison on the fit and finish between similar apps across platforms.
 

bearxor

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Newsflash. Yahoo uses Bing.
Yeah. but for me it's going to be more about the presentation of the searches. I tried to use Bing on my iPhone a couple years ago and it just wasn't great. Need to set some time aside and just see how they look.
 

gar655

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Couldn't stand the mostly non working home button on my iPhone 4 any longer and picked up a 32gb 5"c"heap since I'm that way and didn't want to pay the extra $100 for the S.

Anyway the phone is a phone and does what I need it to do and it's nice to have an extra 16gb of space.

However, I'm kind of pissed about Google ending their sync licensing. I much prefer iOS' mail app over the separate Gmail app that I'm now forced to use if I want (and I do) push email. Pain in the ass!
 

bearxor

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I just put mine to check every 15 minutes. It hasn't bothered me yet and I appreciate the interval of quietness.

I've tried Mailbox but didn't really dig it.
 

Ns1

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However, I'm kind of pissed about Google ending their sync licensing. I much prefer iOS' mail app over the separate Gmail app that I'm now forced to use if I want (and I do) push email. Pain in the ass!

wait, WHAT?! how long has this been in effect?!

is outlook.com better??
 

bearxor

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I think the cutoff for everything but Windows Phone was Jan 30th. If your device was set up for EAS by then, you can continue to use it. But if you get a new device, be it a replacement from a warranty swap or purchase an upgrade, then they can not do EAS.

I believe Google pushed the deadline for Windows Phone in to the summer because Microsoft needed to release an update that did CardDAV and CalDAV.

I've been slowly moving my email correspondence to Outlook.com in my efforts to 'de-googlefy'. I like it. It brings a lot cleaner interface, IMO. GMail used to own that but it has seen a lot of feature creep the past couple of years and the new interface on the web is just downright terribad, IMO.