Internet Thread:11-4-07 Verizon defines "Unlimited" 5 GB cap, Max 200 kbps

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Most broadband companies will happily run lines to sub-divisions. The density is cost effective. The government will have nothing to do with it except collect the service & franchise taxes.

If only that was true, then we would not be having these arguments.

Where do you see the flaw?

When the Monopoly in your area deems your subdivsion not worthy to get High Speed access.

For example when I was in Atlanta. When BellSouth ran High speed access right by my brand new ordinary $150,000 home subdivision to feed the Multi-million dollar home subdivsion. They refused to give us high speed access and said straight to my face and in an e-mail they will not hook us up in my lifetime.

Only after I went to the News and they covered the story did BellSouth agree to give us high speed access.

Declaring Americans second class citizens is wrong but unfortunately the Radical Religious Right Wing ruling the Country and residents here in P&N are OK with it. We deserve to go down in flames that we are compared with the World on high speed deployment and everything else such as health care and health discoveries.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: AntiEverything

What are you saying, crackpot? You want to string cable to every backwoods Bush-voter in every red state? Do you have any idea what you're arguing for or against anymore?

Ah yes, more spewage from the Religious Right Elitists. Perfectly OK to have second class citizens in the U.S.

So, if someone disagrees with you on a relatively non-political point, they are a Religious Right Elitist?

What does religion have to do with not getting speedy Internet access?

:roll:

I think being disconnected from the Internet is precisely what you need.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: AntiEverything

What are you saying, crackpot? You want to string cable to every backwoods Bush-voter in every red state? Do you have any idea what you're arguing for or against anymore?

Ah yes, more spewage from the Religious Right Elitists. Perfectly OK to have second class citizens in the U.S.

So, if someone disagrees with you on a relatively non-political point, they are a Religious Right Elitist?

What does religion have to do with not getting speedy Internet access?

:roll:

I think being disconnected from the Internet is precisely what you need.

You're taking one line out of context. If you have been paying attention the last few years you would know what I meant unless of course you are a true Bush Regime Brainwashee then beyond comprehension.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Most broadband companies will happily run lines to sub-divisions. The density is cost effective. The government will have nothing to do with it except collect the service & franchise taxes.

If only that was true, then we would not be having these arguments.

Where do you see the flaw?

When the Monopoly in your area deems your subdivsion not worthy to get High Speed access.

For example when I was in Atlanta. When BellSouth ran High speed access right by my brand new ordinary $150,000 home subdivision to feed the Multi-million dollar home subdivsion. They refused to give us high speed access and said straight to my face and in an e-mail they will not hook us up in my lifetime.

Only after I went to the News and they covered the story did BellSouth agree to give us high speed access.

Declaring Americans second class citizens is wrong but unfortunately the Radical Religious Right Wing ruling the Country and residents here in P&N are OK with it. We deserve to go down in flames that we are compared with the World on high speed deployment and everything else such as health care and health discoveries.

You know what? Dave might be right.

I want snow. I live in Texas, and I've never seen it. Ever. Other Americans get to see snow, and I don't. I think that the only thing fair would be for the government to truck snow in (at taxpayers' expense, of course) for my family to enjoy.

What does everyone want?

I'll trade mosquitos for snow. Any takers?

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: AntiEverything

What are you saying, crackpot? You want to string cable to every backwoods Bush-voter in every red state? Do you have any idea what you're arguing for or against anymore?

Ah yes, more spewage from the Religious Right Elitists. Perfectly OK to have second class citizens in the U.S.

So, if someone disagrees with you on a relatively non-political point, they are a Religious Right Elitist?

What does religion have to do with not getting speedy Internet access?

:roll:

I think being disconnected from the Internet is precisely what you need.

You're taking one line out of context. If you have been paying attention the last few years you would know what I meant unless of course you are a true Bush Regime Brainwashee then beyond comprehension.

Great. :roll: More name calling. Nice ad hominem attack.

I think you are finding political issues where there are none. You spew bile on this forum for hours, and when someone disagrees with you, you spew names at them. You see the world as this enormous anti-you conspiracy, led by the President of the United States.

How could your life not improve if you disconnected from the Internet. You are here for hours, and you seemingly have achieved nothing - save the alienation of an Internet geek forum.

Go outside. Buy a puppy.

 

[Genx87]

What does everyone want?

I want a 5 month summer instead of a 3 month summer. I think the govt should have to make my state warm 5 months of the year at tax payers expense of course.

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Most of the villages and lodges use Star Band to get internet, it sucks, lots of limitations, but it is better then nothing.

I don't expect my local, state, or federal gov to pay millions of dollars for infrastructure, to service only a handful of people, of a service that isn't critical. Heck if i build a lodge in the middle of nowhere on my land, i don't expect the gov. to provide anything.

Big difference from your Lodge in the middle of nowhere Vs a subdivision built with the blessing of your local Government.

what do you mean with the governments blessing?

Believe it or not there are requirements for building in the middle of nowhere, requirements that need to be meet, before the government can bestow it's "blessing" on new construction. Its why our borough(same as a county) require building permits.

Once again - i don't expect local, state, or federal gov to fund me non-critical services. But since you do - what do you expect government to do, on any level to provide internet access to rural areas? Do you propose they subsides another company to compete with Starband? Provide cheaper service, make it free to people out in the boon-docks?

If you have the government provide cheap or free service, it will drive Star Band out of business. Plus taxpayers foot the bill

Have the government subsides Star Band itself? Then we start dealing with corperate wellfare, which i'm against, and the taxpayers foot the bill

Require Star Band to provide full redunace in its system - including having 2nd sat, avialable on imediate failure? Just FYI - sat time is NOT CHEAP. Considering how much Star Band costs that added burden would substanitially increase the price. Making it less accessiable to people. (btw last time I checked T-1 bandwidth runs about 10-15k a month via sat)

People aren't forced to live in a remote area - for the most part they either choose to live, or have not choosen to leave. You can argue that people may not have the means to leave - if that is the case what would make you believe then can afford the service to begin with? When some one chooses to be in that enviroment - they realize the trade offs:

Myself - I give up being able to play pretty much any internet based game (latency of 650-1000 just doesn't work), higher prices, expensive fuel oil and gas, not many choices for shopping, for no traffic, 3 minutes to get to work, school, church, groceries, 5 for the movies, 10-20 if i want to go camping or hiking. Access to prime fishing and hunting (the deer taste excellent hear) a clean enviroment, well water that has zero pollution and tastes great. Boating, wildlife (gee huh, another eagle)ATV, biking - i could go on- crappy internet access exchanged for the above - yeah its worth it. And i dont' expect you or any one else to subsides my way of life - especially for something that like the internet.

Anyway, what is your solution?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

More fallout from America's love of Monopoly Phone & Cable Co's and their reluctance to exand infrastructure to cover all of the U.S. and instead soak inner City infrastructure for every penny they can get. U.S. citizens only have themselves to blame.

Why don't you start a business to extend service to these places? Oh wait...that's right - they aren't profitable. But wait - aren't businesses in BUSINESS to make a profit? Who are you to tell them they MUST do something that will cost them money?
Pfftt - just more anti-corporation spewage. And no -the gov't shouldn't fund it. No there shouldn't be the extra taxes on our phone bills to pay for the non-existant expansion to rural america.(It's one of those taxes in there somewhere)

Dave, you might try sticking to one issue instead of going off on some wild all inclusive rant. I'm sure we'd agree on the tax issue and maybe other issues but when you lump all your other baggage in there, it's hardly worth even trying to address you posts.

CsG

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Anyway, what is your solution?

Oh, simply back to the "can Do" principle America used to have before Greed above all else.

America has fallen down beyond 20th on the list of available High Speed Access and still falling.

That's the America y'all embrace now, good for you.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

More fallout from America's love of Monopoly Phone & Cable Co's and their reluctance to exand infrastructure to cover all of the U.S. and instead soak inner City infrastructure for every penny they can get. U.S. citizens only have themselves to blame.

Why don't you start a business to extend service to these places? Oh wait...that's right - they aren't profitable. But wait - aren't businesses in BUSINESS to make a profit? Who are you to tell them they MUST do something that will cost them money?
Pfftt - just more anti-corporation spewage. And no -the gov't shouldn't fund it. No there shouldn't be the extra taxes on our phone bills to pay for the non-existant expansion to rural america.(It's one of those taxes in there somewhere)

Dave, you might try sticking to one issue instead of going off on some wild all inclusive rant. I'm sure we'd agree on the tax issue and maybe other issues but when you lump all your other baggage in there, it's hardly worth even trying to address you posts.

CsG

Yes, we are all paying that "Rural High Speed Access" charge for years now. Free extra money to the Phone Co Monopolies and they don't do anything with that money other than buy bigger Yachts for the Execs, but I'm sure you're proud of that.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Anyway, what is your solution?

Oh, simply back to the "can Do" principle America used to have before Greed above all else.

America has fallen down beyond 20th on the list of available High Speed Access and still falling.

That's the America y'all embrace now, good for you.

You didn't answer the question. He didn't ask for platitudes he asked for your "solution."

CsG

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Anyway, what is your solution?

Oh, simply back to the "can Do" principle America used to have before Greed above all else.

America has fallen down beyond 20th on the list of available High Speed Access and still falling.

That's the America y'all embrace now, good for you.

You didn't answer the question. He didn't ask for platitudes he asked for your "solution."

CsG

Yeah

Star Band said "can do"

and they did.

Direct DSL said "can do"

and they went out of business.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Anyway, what is your solution?

Oh, simply back to the "can Do" principle America used to have before Greed above all else.

America has fallen down beyond 20th on the list of available High Speed Access and still falling.

That's the America y'all embrace now, good for you.

The Can Do was because there was a need to get something done. What is the need for high-speed internet access.

10 years ago, high speed for the user was a 56KB dial-up. Most business worked well then (using dial-up as needed and/or setup something with their local Telco as needed) and prospered. The only thing that high-spped access at the user terminus gained was the ability to send out large volumes of data quickly. (video and audio). In the process, efficiency became a lower priority. Large data files are no longer shipped compressed.

Again, why is High Speed Access required for most people. Also, one should look at the population density of the 20 slots above the US.

 

[bsobel]

Great. :roll: More name calling. Nice ad hominem attack.
I think you are finding political issues where there are none. You spew bile on this forum for hours, and when someone disagrees with you, you spew names at them. You see the world as this enormous anti-you conspiracy, led by the President of the United States.
How could your life not improve if you disconnected from the Internet. You are here for hours, and you seemingly have achieved nothing - save the alienation of an Internet geek forum.
Go outside. Buy a puppy.

Go find the post where the attention whore makes a big deal of leaving for good, then logs in every day for weeks to see how many people responded. It doesn't matter what the subject is, if you disagree with him, your brainwashed, religious, and clearly a bush supporter.

He can't even keep is own house in order, of course, he blames his wifes gene's now for making her leave him (that was a classic post).

Dave went thru a bad ordeal a few years ago (see his sig links) and many people (my self included) where upset by the treatment he received. However, if you listen to him over time you wonder if he is paranoid and nuts because of what happened, or what happened was because he's paranoid and nuts.

Yes, and I have noticed that his posts contribute something to the forum, in contrast to yours, which only snipe and tear down what others attempt to discuss. Why don't you just go away if you don't like what people here are posting?

As for you DaveShel, come on, you have an argument with that poster from another thread, you don't need to bring it into here.

Now, for the topic at hand. I disagree that it not a market problem. Truth be told, we have only really had high speed internet in most cities for a few years now, is it that really bad that some areas are lagging behind? Do we require a system where no users get a service until we can provide them to all? We *are* investing in this space, WiMax, 802.20e, and other last mile alternatives will make rural internet much much MUCH more cost effective. It's just going to take longer to build out the technology than it did to wire DSL to my house.

My folks are retired out in Arkansas. When I got my first cell phone in the 90's, I had service here in LA, major cities on the 40 on the drive out, and none at their house (which is rural, on a lake). Today I get great coverage (including data service) from any room on the house while I'm there (but dad still can't get DSL). These things take time, get over it.

Bill

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Anyway, what is your solution?

Oh, simply back to the "can Do" principle America used to have before Greed above all else.

America has fallen down beyond 20th on the list of available High Speed Access and still falling.

That's the America y'all embrace now, good for you.

The Can Do was because there was a need to get something done. What is the need for high-speed internet access.

10 years ago, high speed for the user was a 56KB dial-up. Most business worked well then (using dial-up as needed and/or setup something with their local Telco as needed) and prospered. The only thing that high-spped access at the user terminus gained was the ability to send out large volumes of data quickly. (video and audio). In the process, efficiency became a lower priority. Large data files are no longer shipped compressed.

Again, why is High Speed Access required for most people. Also, one should look at the population density of the 20 slots above the US.

Excuses excuses, The Pussy's of America, how pathetic. We deserve to be second class.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Anyway, what is your solution?

Oh, simply back to the "can Do" principle America used to have before Greed above all else.

America has fallen down beyond 20th on the list of available High Speed Access and still falling.

That's the America y'all embrace now, good for you.

The Can Do was because there was a need to get something done. What is the need for high-speed internet access.

10 years ago, high speed for the user was a 56KB dial-up. Most business worked well then (using dial-up as needed and/or setup something with their local Telco as needed) and prospered. The only thing that high-spped access at the user terminus gained was the ability to send out large volumes of data quickly. (video and audio). In the process, efficiency became a lower priority. Large data files are no longer shipped compressed.

Again, why is High Speed Access required for most people. Also, one should look at the population density of the 20 slots above the US.

Excuses excuses, The Pussy's of America, how pathetic. We deserve to be second class.

Do you do anything other than call people names?

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Excuses excuses, The Pussy's of America, how pathetic. We deserve to be second class.

Good retort...

Nothing to see here folks, other than the epitome of all that is dave.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: bsobel
Go find the post where the attention whore makes a big deal of leaving for good, then logs in every day for weeks to see how many people responded. It doesn't matter what the subject is, if you disagree with him, your brainwashed, religious, and clearly a bush supporter.

He can't even keep is own house in order, of course, he blames his wifes gene's now for making her leave him (that was a classic post).

Dave went thru a bad ordeal a few years ago (see his sig links) and many people (my self included) where upset by the treatment he received. However, if you listen to him over time you wonder if he is paranoid and nuts because of what happened, or what happened was because he's paranoid and nuts.

Yes, and I have noticed that his posts contribute something to the forum, in contrast to yours, which only snipe and tear down what others attempt to discuss. Why don't you just go away if you don't like what people here are posting?

Now, for the topic at hand. I disagree that it not a market problem. Truth be told, we have only really had high speed internet in most cities for a few years now, is it that really bad that some areas are lagging behind? Do we require a system where no users get a service until we can provide them to all? We *are* investing in this space, WiMax, 802.20e, and other last mile alternatives will make rural internet much much MUCH more cost effective. It's just going to take longer to build out the technology than it did to wire DSL to my house.

My folks are retired out in Arkansas. When I got my first cell phone in the 90's, I had service here in LA, major cities on the 40 on the drive out, and none at their house (which is rural, on a lake). Today I get great coverage (including data service) from any room on the house while I'm there (but dad still can't get DSL). These things take time, get over it.

Bill

I wasn't expecting to land on my feet so quickly much less have access to the Internet, it's obvious you didn't pay attention to details such as that but hey.

I didn't write the article about women's genes causing infidelity. Ironically she got into the Internet and chatting and into a different guy into Computers. In fact you can hear and see her everyday on the Internet, quite a celeb she has become.

I never said I wasn't Nuts and Paranoid. Don't think so much on Paranoid though.

Glad to see that you see it is a Laziness issue of the Market and that they are milking the "Low Hanging Fruit", has "paid off" for Execs getting bigger Yachts but has clearly hurt the Country bottom line.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Excuses excuses, The Pussy's of America, how pathetic. We deserve to be second class.

Good retort...

Nothing to see here folks, other than the epitome of all that is dave.

And he probably wonders why his wife left him. Must have been a government conspiracy. What a tard. :roll:

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: bsobel
Go find the post where the attention whore makes a big deal of leaving for good, then logs in every day for weeks to see how many people responded. It doesn't matter what the subject is, if you disagree with him, your brainwashed, religious, and clearly a bush supporter.

He can't even keep is own house in order, of course, he blames his wifes gene's now for making her leave him (that was a classic post).

Dave went thru a bad ordeal a few years ago (see his sig links) and many people (my self included) where upset by the treatment he received. However, if you listen to him over time you wonder if he is paranoid and nuts because of what happened, or what happened was because he's paranoid and nuts.

Yes, and I have noticed that his posts contribute something to the forum, in contrast to yours, which only snipe and tear down what others attempt to discuss. Why don't you just go away if you don't like what people here are posting?

Now, for the topic at hand. I disagree that it not a market problem. Truth be told, we have only really had high speed internet in most cities for a few years now, is it that really bad that some areas are lagging behind? Do we require a system where no users get a service until we can provide them to all? We *are* investing in this space, WiMax, 802.20e, and other last mile alternatives will make rural internet much much MUCH more cost effective. It's just going to take longer to build out the technology than it did to wire DSL to my house.

My folks are retired out in Arkansas. When I got my first cell phone in the 90's, I had service here in LA, major cities on the 40 on the drive out, and none at their house (which is rural, on a lake). Today I get great coverage (including data service) from any room on the house while I'm there (but dad still can't get DSL). These things take time, get over it.

Bill

I wasn't expecting to land on my feet so quickly much less have access to the Internet, it's obvious you didn't pay attention to details such as that but hey.

I didn't write the article about women's genes causing infidelity. Ironically she got into the Internet and chatting and into a different guy into Computers. In fact you can hear and see her everyday on the Internet, quite a celeb she has become.

I never said I wasn't Nuts and Paranoid. Don't think so much on Paranoid though.

Glad to see that you see it is a Laziness issue of the Market and that they are milking the "Low Hanging Fruit", has "paid off" for Execs getting bigger Yachts but has clearly hurt the Country bottom line.

So whats your solution to this "problem".Something concrete:bills to be passed laws to be changed .etc....Nothing like "CEOs need to stop the greed" .I like greed.greed is good.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Anyway, what is your solution?

Oh, simply back to the "can Do" principle America used to have before Greed above all else.

America has fallen down beyond 20th on the list of available High Speed Access and still falling.

That's the America y'all embrace now, good for you.

The Can Do was because there was a need to get something done. What is the need for high-speed internet access.

10 years ago, high speed for the user was a 56KB dial-up. Most business worked well then (using dial-up as needed and/or setup something with their local Telco as needed) and prospered. The only thing that high-spped access at the user terminus gained was the ability to send out large volumes of data quickly. (video and audio). In the process, efficiency became a lower priority. Large data files are no longer shipped compressed.

Again, why is High Speed Access required for most people. Also, one should look at the population density of the 20 slots above the US.

Excuses excuses, The Pussy's of America, how pathetic. We deserve to be second class.

Do you do anything other than call people names?

With the new second class America, guess not.

Looks like you're proud of being second class though, good for you.

I fought the giant Monopoly, took me 2 years in between really being caugh in the middle of a real Government Conspiracy but I did succeed.

How many in here can say they got called personally from the Giant phone Co telling them after the Phone Compnay appeared on the News because they were caught treating customers as second class citizens and that they installed High Speed access within 3 months.

Maybe I should've been a wuss like the rest of America is now and stayed stuck with dial up while the Millionaires in the next subdivision continue to get high speed access as the line went right by my house.

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Anyway, what is your solution?

Oh, simply back to the "can Do" principle America used to have before Greed above all else.

America has fallen down beyond 20th on the list of available High Speed Access and still falling.

That's the America y'all embrace now, good for you.

The Can Do was because there was a need to get something done. What is the need for high-speed internet access.

10 years ago, high speed for the user was a 56KB dial-up. Most business worked well then (using dial-up as needed and/or setup something with their local Telco as needed) and prospered. The only thing that high-spped access at the user terminus gained was the ability to send out large volumes of data quickly. (video and audio). In the process, efficiency became a lower priority. Large data files are no longer shipped compressed.

Again, why is High Speed Access required for most people. Also, one should look at the population density of the 20 slots above the US.

Excuses excuses, The Pussy's of America, how pathetic. We deserve to be second class.

Do you do anything other than call people names?

With the new second class America, guess not.

Looks like you're proud of being second class though, good for you.

So what do you want to do about this issue.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: eigen

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Anyway, what is your solution?

Oh, simply back to the "can Do" principle America used to have before Greed above all else.

America has fallen down beyond 20th on the list of available High Speed Access and still falling.

That's the America y'all embrace now, good for you.

The Can Do was because there was a need to get something done. What is the need for high-speed internet access.

10 years ago, high speed for the user was a 56KB dial-up. Most business worked well then (using dial-up as needed and/or setup something with their local Telco as needed) and prospered. The only thing that high-spped access at the user terminus gained was the ability to send out large volumes of data quickly. (video and audio). In the process, efficiency became a lower priority. Large data files are no longer shipped compressed.

Again, why is High Speed Access required for most people. Also, one should look at the population density of the 20 slots above the US.

Excuses excuses, The Pussy's of America, how pathetic. We deserve to be second class.

Do you do anything other than call people names?

With the new second class America, guess not.

Looks like you're proud of being second class though, good for you.

So what do you want to do about this issue.

See the rest of my post. I was editing and adding what I personally did.

 

[shrumpage]

Lets see, I gave you a direct challange.

"What is your solution?" I even listed some options, that could have been expanded:

Your only reply was "american can Do", not based on greed.

I gave you two companies that said "can do"

One of those companies succeed, one of them failed. The failed one put a few people i know out of work when it folded, the other company still employees 850 people. Those 850 people are paying taxes, and aren't on the government pay roll, they don't cost you and me a thing.

Explain to what is your SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM OF RURAL INTERNET ACCESS, since apparently the free market can't handle it.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: shrumpage
Lets see, I gave you a direct challange.

"What is your solution?" I even listed some options, that could have been expanded:

Your only reply was "american can Do", not based on greed.

I gave you two companies that said "can do"

One of those companies succeed, one of them failed. The failed one put a few people i know out of work when it folded, the other company still employees 850 people. Those 850 people are paying taxes, and aren't on the government pay roll, they don't cost you and me a thing.

Explain to what is your SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM OF RURAL INTERNET ACCESS, since apparently the free market can't handle it.

I did explain it but as usual the FLL's in here refuse to see, not surprising. We are all paying for Rural High Speed access, it is on your Bill. Are we getting service from those fees? Of course not.

Would you care to explain what they have been doing with the Billions of dollars for Rural High Speed Access they have been getting all these years???