that makes no sense, if Intel couldn't sell 820s, then why would it underclock them and then try to sell them? They would jsut keep the speed and lower the price. The 805 is there to try to get entry level consumers thinking dual core is the way to go. Its more about changing public opinion then making money.
Re: Asrock 775Dual-880ProOriginally posted by: Marlin1975
Yea thats the only thing I don't like on this board. But I am only aiming for 3.3Ghz and that shopuld be ok on default with a 166Mhz FSB. At least I hope.
You'll probably have better o/cing luck than us since your starting FSB is @ 133. Most of us hit walls around 225-230. No vcore options, unfortunately. Good luck!
someone post some benchies on these 805's i'm dying to buy one but gotta make sure i'm not gonna end up with a disappointing OC
i dont think intel gives a rats ass if the anandtech community buys 820s.
dell sells tons of them and they have 25% market share. hp sells a ton too.
my uncle even bought a dell 820 figuring its 2 cores so it has to be better and it was cheap.
thus... they are probably selling plenty of 820s.
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My dad's one of those suckers. Get this - dropped 3K on dell 820 setup LMAO - I did'nt even know that was possible until I saw receipt. Lucky for me he does'nt ask for computer advice..He got the 5 year at the door warranty - not that i've ever hinted I know anything about them either and I'd like to keep it that way.
but if they continue realsing garbage like that thier market presence won't last forever when reveiwers, IT experts and well informend end users will eventually make an negative impacton on intels bottom line though word of mouth.
That's conveinant..
but if they continue realsing garbage like that thier market presence won't last forever when reveiwers, IT experts and well informend end users will eventually make an negative impacton on intels bottom line though word of mouth.well the 820 from dell is a great deal. well i guess they only sell the 920 now. if th e820 was $350 per cpu ok yes there would be a sucker every minute.
but i would guess dell is probably getting them for $150 as it is. and it is cheap to make for intel since they have tons of manufacturing capacity and even cheaper for the 920 series.
i mean, sure the x2 3800 is a much faster cpu... but you cant get it in a system that cheap. where can you get a bundle of say a x2 3800 witha 20" lcd or something for $800.?
that is what i was saying, so what if the cpu is not the greatest technical acheivement in the world. it also costs a lot less, and probably costs a lot lot lot less for dell to sell.
i mean there have been deals where you could get an entire 820 based system with a 20" lcd for like $800. so i stand by my claim that they probably sell a ton of them.
i didnt even say it was a better cpu. but value per $ on it is not that bad. especially if you just want dual cores for well the "smootheness". not to mention some fo the games now support dual core for 3d like quake4 and it really brings it up to speed.
i mean look im trying to be objective here. some of you guys are like total amd fan boys. i mean does amd use AEG or something? are they sending opterons to you g uys? seriously i dont understand why people are so passionate about this pro amd stuff. it is a cpu for god sakes.
but i would guess dell is probably getting them for $150 as it is. and it is cheap to make for intel since they have tons of manufacturing capacity and even cheaper for the 920 series.
i mean, sure the x2 3800 is a much faster cpu... but you cant get it in a system that cheap. where can you get a bundle of say a x2 3800 witha 20" lcd or something for $800.?
that is what i was saying, so what if the cpu is not the greatest technical acheivement in the world. it also costs a lot less, and probably costs a lot lot lot less for dell to sell.
i mean there have been deals where you could get an entire 820 based system with a 20" lcd for like $800. so i stand by my claim that they probably sell a ton of them.
i didnt even say it was a better cpu. but value per $ on it is not that bad. especially if you just want dual cores for well the "smootheness". not to mention some fo the games now support dual core for 3d like quake4 and it really brings it up to speed.
i mean look im trying to be objective here. some of you guys are like total amd fan boys. i mean does amd use AEG or something? are they sending opterons to you g uys? seriously i dont understand why people are so passionate about this pro amd stuff. it is a cpu for god sakes.
it's sad, really
all intel has to do is pimp out that 2 cores are good
dell can do the rest
who cares about performance...
all intel has to do is pimp out that 2 cores are good
dell can do the rest
who cares about performance...
Whats really sad, is that a lot of the people buying Dells' with dual cores, are just gonna use them for checking e-mail, browsing the internet, and maybe some office apps.
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You're wrong I owe no allegance. It's a POS period. Hot and slow. Drains your power bill so it's price/performance aspect is even debatable when you consider the backended cost.
I can't wait till Dell is selling $800 Conroe setups with 20" LCD's. I'll have one before you do.
Edit - you said $800 - corrected.
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We'll keep quiet. Shhhh.Originally posted by: Zebo
My dad's one of those suckers. Get this - dropped 3K on dell 820 setup...He got the 5 year at the door warranty - not that i've ever hinted I know anything about them either and I'd like to keep it that way.
The "IT experts" are seeing computers as commodities and tools that need to work all the time, so they're buying the Dell's with good warranties. It comes down to knowing that if anything breaks it will be working the next day. Even companies that market to "enthusiasts" buy their "tool" computers based on the warranty.
I'd sign up to be an AEG fanboi in an instant if it'll means they'll give me a better Opteron than the one that I have.
That's fine, then the machine won't be as lagged when Norton Internet Security kicks in. OMG I had to uninstall that sh1te on my Dell notebook because I was playing games on it and it was getting totally lagged, ALT-TAB out and find Norton scanning away. Exit out of it and go back into game, few minutes later lagged again, find Norton again...
Then again, as long as Dell sells Celerons, that's what people will be buying.
Zebo
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LOL Hey you know it's all luck
Anyway the part about buying cheap and with warranties.. you can do that with AMD from leovo, ABS, emachines among others - So I'm not sure your point there. IT experts read when toms/anand/"server weekly" says how bad presses are in so many words in every reveiw and are making the shifts.. It will be a slow errosion and totally dependent on performance in the end.
I think the irony is, the people with their high end Dual Core systems are laughing at the low-end mainstream Dual Core systems, when in the long it benefits them more by making Dual Core more mainstream for developers.
Just pathetic.
Just pathetic.
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You say what I said was uncalled for and badmouthing members ? I said there's a sucker born every minute, that applies the the millions of suckers that buy POS machines from Dell (not even saying all Dells are bad even), and you say I am badmouthing ANAnd forum members ? where the he$$ did you get that from ?
Thats why Zebo said what he did IMO. you obviously have something up your butt. Now just calm down and stop madmouthing people here like you accused me of doing. The 8xx series is crap, and I can give you a zillion reasons, and I own one, so I am NOT talking out of by butt, and neither is Zebo. And if Conroe or Merom are as great of a bang/buck as people think they will be, I may beat you all to the store to get one. I have a couple grand a month to blow on computers if I deem it worthwhile, but I reserve judgement until the day its proved to me.
haha clearly i want an average idea of what ppl are getting, cuz i was pondering the opty but if this 805D can do a decent oc (on avg.) then the price is right for me...
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