Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes + WCL Discussion Threads

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Tigerick

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Wildcat Lake (WCL) Preliminary Specs

Intel Wildcat Lake (WCL) is upcoming mobile SoC replacing ADL-N. WCL consists of 2 tiles: compute tile and PCD tile. It is true single die consists of CPU, GPU and NPU that is fabbed by 18-A process. Last time I checked, PCD tile is fabbed by TSMC N6 process. They are connected through UCIe, not D2D; a first from Intel. Expecting launching in Q2/Computex 2026. In case people don't remember AlderLake-N, I have created a table below to compare the detail specs of ADL-N and WCL. Just for fun, I am throwing LNL and upcoming Mediatek D9500 SoC.

Intel Alder Lake - NIntel Wildcat LakeIntel Lunar LakeMediatek D9500
Launch DateQ1-2023Q2-2026 ?Q3-2024Q3-2025
ModelIntel N300?Core Ultra 7 268VDimensity 9500 5G
Dies2221
NodeIntel 7 + ?Intel 18-A + TSMC N6TSMC N3B + N6TSMC N3P
CPU8 E-cores2 P-core + 4 LP E-cores4 P-core + 4 LP E-coresC1 1+3+4
Threads8688
Max Clock3.8 GHz?5 GHz
L3 Cache6 MB?12 MB
TDP7 WFanless ?17 WFanless
Memory64-bit LPDDR5-480064-bit LPDDR5-6800 ?128-bit LPDDR5X-853364-bit LPDDR5X-10667
Size16 GB?32 GB24 GB ?
Bandwidth~ 55 GB/s136 GB/s85.6 GB/s
GPUUHD GraphicsArc 140VG1 Ultra
EU / Xe32 EU2 Xe8 Xe12
Max Clock1.25 GHz2 GHz
NPUNA18 TOPS48 TOPS100 TOPS ?






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As Hot Chips 34 starting this week, Intel will unveil technical information of upcoming Meteor Lake (MTL) and Arrow Lake (ARL), new generation platform after Raptor Lake. Both MTL and ARL represent new direction which Intel will move to multiple chiplets and combine as one SoC platform.

MTL also represents new compute tile that based on Intel 4 process which is based on EUV lithography, a first from Intel. Intel expects to ship MTL mobile SoC in 2023.

ARL will come after MTL so Intel should be shipping it in 2024, that is what Intel roadmap is telling us. ARL compute tile will be manufactured by Intel 20A process, a first from Intel to use GAA transistors called RibbonFET.



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PTL is good overall they are sharing Panther GPU Tiles with Nova as well there is certainly lot of reuse.
 

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Finally using their brains they could have the same SoC tile for Desktop and Laptop ARL/MTL but they had to mess it up.
NVL tile arch is way better they ARL/MTL
Intel has smart people, it's just there's a lot of infighting and constant change of plans. And you add DEI-hiring policies on top... It's like in Warcraft 3 where you have limited amount of numbers and you charm one enemy unit to your side and suddenly the whole battle changes.

If there are 100 people, and there are two sides equally split between 50 people each, it's effectively like there's no one working cause they cancel each other out.
 
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Their own slides claim ~+50% over Lunar Lake. Lunar Lake is ~ Strix Point (being a little generous here) for real gaming fps. Strix Point is ~GTX 1050Ti for gaming. GTX 1080 is 2.5-3X faster than 1050Ti.

Lunar Lake is faster than Strix Point when it's not hampered by drivers, and Strix Point is a lot faster than the GTX 1050 Ti:




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And this is using pure raster which, to be frank, few people are using on modern hardware in modern games.
 
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Fjodor2001

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For the U-range, what improvements are expected going from Panther Lake to Nova Lake? I wonder if it's worth waiting for the latter.
 
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For the U-range, what improvements are expected going from Panther Lake to Nova Lake? I wonder if it's worth waiting for the latter.
For U-class/4P+0E+4LPE config
P- core changes to Coyote Cove, (E)/LPE- core changes to Arctic Wolf with APX, AVX10.2 support, CPU tile(4P+0E) on 18A-P node
New media engine
Integrated Thunderbolt 5
New NPU
Potential improved memory speed support