Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

[Tigerick]

As Hot Chips 34 starting this week, Intel will unveil technical information of upcoming Meteor Lake (MTL) and Arrow Lake (ARL), new generation platform after Raptor Lake. Both MTL and ARL represent new direction which Intel will move to multiple chiplets and combine as one SoC platform.

MTL also represents new compute tile that based on Intel 4 process which is based on EUV lithography, a first from Intel. Intel expects to ship MTL mobile SoC in 2023.

ARL will come after MTL so Intel should be shipping it in 2024, that is what Intel roadmap is telling us. ARL compute tile will be manufactured by Intel 20A process, a first from Intel to use GAA transistors called RibbonFET.





Intel Core Ultra 100 - Meteor Lake



As mentioned by Tomshardware, TSMC will manufacture the I/O, SoC, and GPU tiles. That means Intel will manufacture only the CPU and Foveros tiles. (Notably, Intel calls the I/O tile an 'I/O Expander,' hence the IOE moniker.)

 

[trivik12]

I think there will be few devices available to buy this month. I wonder if we will see any at Best Buy or Costco.

 

[Mopetar]

One would think so, if only just to try to cash in on the Christmas season sales. I'd find it hard to believe that there wasn't at least one OEM that would want to have the hit new product on shelves right before the holidays.

 

[Hitman928]

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[Saylick]

Did I just hear that the NPU is 10 TOPS?

 

[Hitman928]

Did I just hear that the NPU is 10 TOPS?

Yes.

 

[Hitman928]

Hallock claiming 30-35% longer battery life with video playback over RPL.

Also:

 

[H433x0n]

They started comparison against 7840U with some pretty bold claims. They're claiming Ultra 7 155H outperforms 7840U in ST performance by 8%.

 

[Hitman928]

 

[cebri1]

Nice real benchs

 

[cebri1]

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922 155H, 729 7840U

 

[Hitman928]

Steam quality is too poor to keep taking screenshots. 155H scored about 25% higher than the 7840u in CB24 multi. No power numbers given outside of saying they are both ~30W CPUs.

 

[Hitman928]

 

[H433x0n]

To be intellectually consistent - I'm still not a huge fan of this test either. I'm not sure this is much better than the Chinese leaks that showed the exact opposite results.

 

[Markfw]

I will wait for benchmarks from reputable sites before I comment.

 

[cebri1]

GPU seems to be 20-30% ahead in that benchmark.

Edit

 

[Hitman928]

 

[controlflow]

Looks reasonable so far but would be a better test if they had brought an MTL system in the same Lenovo T16 chassis that the AMD one is in and they provided real power figures.

We will know the answers to all of this very soon regardless.

 

[cebri1]

Based on the GPU test, 4000 3D mark with 7600DDR doesn’t seem impossible

Edit: LOL

 

[H433x0n]

Looks reasonable so far but would be a better test if they had brought an MTL system in the same Lenovo T16 chassis that the AMD one is in and they provided real power figures.

We will know the answers to all of this very soon regardless.

Yeah... It's what drove me nuts about all of the earlier leaks out of China that everybody was spiking the football over.

 

[Hitman928]

 

[mikk]

Surprised that the CPU timespy score is quite a bit higher as well which I think helps in League of Legends at 150-200 fps they were showcasing.

 

[cebri1]

Nice stable difusion demos

 

[controlflow]

View attachment 90367

It is hard to read due to the crap stream quality but this 2nd chart is comparing both GPUs without using any AI upscaling.

I am pretty curious to see how much better the iGPU can do with XeSS.

 

[cebri1]

This is the most exciting part imo. FSR and XeSS.

Laptops available tomorrow by the way.

 

[H433x0n]

I would say CPU performance is still relatively unknown but the iGPU performance looks like it meet expectations.