igor_kavinski
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It doesn't have to. "I got the first ever 6 GHz CPU" bragging rights. People love to brag.I don't see how the 13900KS could compete.
It doesn't have to. "I got the first ever 6 GHz CPU" bragging rights. People love to brag.I don't see how the 13900KS could compete.
How much more can they wring out of it... 6 GHz for 13900KS vs 5.8 GHz for 13900K is only 3.4% higher clocks. V-cache alone is +15% roughly. I don't see how the 13900KS could compete.
The samples were probably given with the understanding or even strong "advice" to test with provided RAM kits.First time in my life that I've ever seen the vast majority of reviewers intentionally deviate from stock settings for launch reviews.![]()
Pat forgot about Sapphire Rapids Update... Their biggest net income producer was MIA on that Keynote.I'd say pretty strong showing. We'll see if this is the tipping point. They clearly need to ramp all those new nodes up or they will be at a chronic perf/watt disadvantage despite having great chips.
It doesn't have to. "I got the first ever 6 GHz CPU" bragging rights. People love to brag.
Pat forgot about Sapphire Rapids Update... Their biggest net income producer was MIA on that Keynote.
Not until Zen5 if, the 7800X3D will not have a 6Ghz clock speed, but then again with those Toon/Ridiculous performance it really does not need to be that fast.Unless AMD beats them to it.
That will be surprising. I think TSMC has so far shown that they can't improve a process continually to deliver higher speeds. Otherwise, newer Zen 3 steppings would clock higher and AMD could release XT SKUs.Unless AMD beats them to it.
Pat forgot about Sapphire Rapids Update... Their biggest net income producer was MIA on that Keynote.
Pretty obvious it's a 2023 product now.
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Not until Zen5 if, the 7800X3D will not have a 6Ghz clock speed, but then again with those Toon/Ridiculous performance it really does not need to be that fast.
The 5800X3D is still and will remain KING on MS Flight Simulator even after the 13900KS is release, you just can't beat that type of performance.
That will be surprising. I think TSMC has so far shown that they can't improve a process continually to deliver higher speeds. Otherwise, newer Zen 3 steppings would clock higher and AMD could release XT SKUs.
The samples were probably given with the understanding or even strong "advice" to test with provided RAM kits.
Not doing that would mean no future samples.
What happened to asking for Intel CPUs to be compared at the maximum DDR5 OC speed the silicon is capable of? Where was your healthy concern for long term system stability?We have no idea how common or uncommon Zen 4 CPUs ability to run the IF at 2ghz will be and whether it will cause instability over the long term.
What's wrong with that? More binning is beneficial to the consumer.AMD likes to copy Intel's bad ideas. The KS chips are specially binned chips otherwise completely identical with already existing chips, released later with limited quantity. Who says AMD definitely won't copy that approach as well? (I don't want it but I already can see it coming.)
Nothing wrong per se. I'm just not a believer in high frequency at any power cost, whole lot of waste of energy to me.What's wrong with that? More binning is beneficial to the consumer.
Will this product with such a delay be still relevant in the next year market? Will anybody buy it?Pretty obvious it's a 2023 product now.
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There is no way a 13900KS will beat the 5800X3D on MS Flight Simulator and the 7800X3D will just build a lead on top of that, there is really no need for a 6 Ghz Zen4 CPU
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What happened to asking for Intel CPUs to be compared at the maximum DDR5 OC speed the silicon is capable of? Where was your healthy concern for long term system stability?