nicalandia
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This looks promising and I would like the coming reviews to take a look at it.
It looks good when compared to a 14nm part that was pushed to it's limits.
This looks promising and I would like the coming reviews to take a look at it.
This looks promising and I would like the coming reviews to take a look at it.
It looks good when compared to a 14nm part that was pushed to it's limits.
That s not that impressive, if you take a theorical 16 cores RKL at 14nm it would have 60% better MT perf at same power than a 8C RKL and barely 1/4 of the power at same MT perf.
Now shrink the thing to 10nm like ADL and you get the picture between what they have and what they could have got.
and it looks worst if you do that with a Tigerlake instead of the 14nm backport
they used unpatched Windows 11 build, so Ryzen was underperforming
Doesn't AMD consider PBO overclocking? No guarantee that all cores can hit the top frequencies, etc.
Well, im only looking at it from a product point of view.
Having the same perf at 1/4 the consumption at the same MSRP its nice , no matter the technical aspects.
But you can have it from the other manufacturer for even less. Alderlake MT performance and efficiency seems nothing to write about despite being hybrid arch.
Seems like Golden Cove-cores burn power like nothing before.
No, they barely match it at 5 Ghz in gaming(they were testing a Win11 version that is known to gimp 15% off on the 5950X)Is 4GHz GC enough to match 4.4/4.5 GHz Zen3 performance?
No, they barely match it at 5 Ghz in gaming(they were testing a Win11 version that is known to gimp 15% off on the 5950X)
We know for sure that Windows 11 pre-patch was reducing Zen3 performance by 15%, they tested with pre-patch Windows 11 build.To be fair, we have no idea.
By Intels own admission, it uses a lot of power, and barely beats the 5950x with a hosed buggy OS and 100 watts more power (and heat) and they recommend water cooling. Those are not in question. Thats not good news.To be fair, we have no idea. All the leaks can look great, average, or terrible, but people should wait for Gamers Nexus, Anandtech, Hardware Unboxed etc for practical results. Hell it's less than two weeks away.
Saying it's amazing or terrible currently could easily end up r\confidentlyincorrect
Lots of Hype-Trains or Hype-Titanics running around with these leaks. It's amusing, but meaningless really. We'll have hard numbers in the very near future. Though I gotta say if the 241 watt PL1 holds up, it's a non-starter for a lot of people.To be fair, we have no idea. All the leaks can look great, average, or terrible, but people should wait for Gamers Nexus, Anandtech, Hardware Unboxed etc for practical results. Hell it's less than two weeks away.
Saying it's amazing or terrible currently could easily end up r\confidentlyincorrect
By Intels own admission, it uses a lot of power, and barely beats the 5950x with a hosed buggy OS and 100 watts more power (and heat) and they recommend water cooling. Those are not in question. Thats not good news.
But the final decision should be made after Nov 4th, I grant you that.
I realize I am in the minority (a big minority), but I honestly wanted a 16 core/24 thread or better that was efficient. My 142 watt 5950x's are killing it in DC, and my EPYC's do geat, but the cheap ones have dried up, so now I want cheap and lots of threads. BTW, I run mine 24/7/365@100% load, so efficiency is a must.That's why I'm a bit ehh on the top tier. To be fair I also thought the 10900k and 11900k were idiotic units as well. They cost a lot more and offered very little over their i7 counterparts, while also being heat monsters under all core loads.
The 12400 through 12700 range intrigues me though. We have had an absolute dearth of great $200-$250 range options for ages now. AMD bringing out a 5600 non X to meet it at $199 would be sweet.
CPUs often remind me a lot of people arguing over cars lol. Some people are like "well this super special version is way better than brand X super special version", when 90% of people are going to be comparing what they can get that fits a tighter budget.
To be clear I'm not saying you're a part of that, but the level of attention on the 12900K is slightly amusing to me, from people either very excited or very dismissive, but it's probably the least relevant piece of the entire lineup in terms of potential market, volume, or revenue.
Apt comparison.CPUs often remind me a lot of people arguing over cars lol. Some people are like "well this super special version is way better than brand X super special version", when 90% of people are going to be comparing what they can get that fits a tighter budget.
I realize I am in the minority (a big minority), but I honestly wanted a 16 core/24 thread or better that was efficient. My 142 watt 5950x's are killing it in DC, and my EPYC's do geat, but the cheap ones have dried up, so now I want cheap and lots of threads. BTW, I run mine 24/7/365@100% load, so efficiency is a must.
I wonder what is the SMT boost on this Golden Cove Cores. They are Very Wide and should extract more from HT/SMT than Skylake based processors. Anyone with SMT info on Rocket Lake? is it the usual 19-24% boost on good threaded apps? Amd wide core allows it to extract 30% on SMT, would be cool to see if they have achieved parity with that fat core