No, this is the list
That's a list posted by @yuuki_ans on July 8, and I just provided you with an updated list from July 17, by the same leaker.No, this is the list
How is what you posted even comparable as far as full list goes? You just posted a screenshot of the test he perform on two Sapphire Rapids(one QS sample and one early sample) and an early sample of Genoa(The first post I did not acknowledge was a twitter post about the test and this one is a single picture of the test bed)That's a list posted by @yuuki_ans on July 8, and I just provided you with an updated list from July 17, by the same leaker.
The least you can do is acknowledge that and check out the info.
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Are you having difficulties reading the 3.8Ghz boost speed for Xeon 8480+?How is what you posted is even comparable as far as full list goes?
Not interested on Boost Clock, You Quoted me asking if what you posted was the release SKU, I pointed and posted the full list. Base clock is where most Server CPUs spend their time.Are you having difficulties reading the 3.8Ghz boost speed for Xeon 8480+?
Boost speed is for like ONE core, correct ? When is a server EVER going to have one core out of 56 ????Are you having difficulties reading the 3.8Ghz boost speed for Xeon 8480+?
You specifically mentioned a boost of 3Ghz for 8480+ and a boost of 3.4Ghz for Ice Lake, and then ignored @Exist50 question on whether you were certain this was a single core boost in the case of SPR.Not interested on Boost Clock
I suggest you take the time and read the replies, this is not about boost speed per se, more about @nicalandia using partial leaks as FACTS.Boost speed is for like ONE core, correct ? When is a server EVER going to have one core out of 56 ????
I was thinking more about the base clocks since they are what matters most. I mean a max boost are really irrelevant for this segment.You specifically mentioned a boost of 3Ghz for 8480+ and a boost of 3.4Ghz for Ice Lake, and then ignored @Exist50 question on whether you were certain this was a single core boost in the case of SPR.
I did read the replies. I am just not getting into that. Its not released yet, so they are still leaks IMO.You specifically mentioned a boost of 3Ghz for 8480+ and a boost of 3.4Ghz for Ice Lake, and then ignored @Exist50 question on whether you were certain this was a single core boost in the case of SPR.
If you have no interest in boost clocks that's OK with me, so don't mention them as part of your argument, makes following the discussion that much easier!
I suggest you take the time and read the replies, this is not about boost speed per se, more about @nicalandia using partial leaks as FACTS.
You probably meant base clocks... it's late here, maybe it's late on your side as well. Let's call it a night, SPR isn't going anywhere.I was thinking more about the boost clocks since they are what matters most.
Don't pay attention to those folks, since when Max Boost have been set in stone by Intel or AMD? I mean the 5950X is rated at 4.9 and it everyone knows they boost past 5 Ghz all of the time. The final product will have a max boost of 3 Ghz wheather the CPU boost past that it's something entirely different. Base boost is where the work is done.I did read the replies. I am just not getting into that. Its not released yet, so they are still leaks IMO.
I'm comparing to another server chip. Coincidentally, one also plagued by delays, but on a process with far worse performance.You know better than that my friend. Client ≠ Server.
You're not answering the question. Why specifically do you think 3GHz is a single core boost number instead of the far more reasonable all core? As @coercitiv points out, you're even ignoring that very leaker's numbers.YuuKi_AnS has already released the Release SKU list ahead of launch. And that 8480+ base speed is identical to the release product.
Since I have several EPYC, I have never seen the boost clock come into play, and I am not a datacenter.Don't pay attention to those folks, since when Max Boost have been set in stone by Intel or AMD? I mean the 5950X is rated at 4.9 and it everyone knows they boost past 5 Ghz all of the time. The final product will have a max boost of 3 Ghz wheather the CPU boost past that it's something entirely different. Base boost is where the work is done.
Max Boost for Release CPU was leaked to be 3.00, but as I mentioned before, max boost set my Intel or AMD is not set in stone. the QS sample was clearly boosting to 3.5 Ghz in Cinebench. Again it's a QS E3 sample do you believe that the release 8480+ CPUs will have a much higher max boost clocks? Does it make any difference since the base boost is what the CPU will need to manage within the TDP?You're not answering the question. Why specifically do you think 3GHz is a single core boost number instead of the far more reasonable all core? As @coercitiv points out, you're even ignoring that very leaker's numbers.
That very leaker says 3.8 for max boost, not 3.0. It's silly to keep on doubling down on something your source disagrees with, and doubly so when it defies common sense.Max Boost for Release CPU was leaked to be 3.00
It's my bad, I said 3.5 But YuuKi_AnS posted 3.8 Ghz single core boost on one of the tests.That very leaker says 3.8 for max boost, not 3.0. It's silly to keep on doubling down on something your source disagrees with, and doubly so when it defies common sense.
I expect some SKUS to be released at the end of this year to save face, but not the entire stack.There is the reason for the Sapphire Rapids delay:
It won't come out this year, this is a big fail.
Intel 4 might be fine, but I'll believe MTL is healthy when I see it in reviewers' hands.Intel 4 and MTL sounds promising so far.
More truth than you might have intended.Let's call it a night, SPR isn't going anywhere.
Depends on how many select customers are happy with the early silicon they're getting. Lots of units can be sent to hyperscalars via ODMs that will fly under our radars until they're reflected in earnings reports somehow. The real question is: what is the bug, and who is affected?It won't come out this year, this is a big fail.
The pun was intended, if that's what you meant.More truth than you might have intended.
That's just it, in the Q&A Intel admitted the bulk of SPR contribution will be in 2023.Lots of units can be sent to hyperscalars via ODMs that will fly under our radars until they're reflected in earnings reports somehow.
We said it's ramping later, main SKUs will contribute mostly next year than this year. We see opportunity in client ASP increases passing on inflation. Our competitiveness is not as strong on DCAI so can't increase pricing. Mostly ramp next year.
Charlie indicated it's security related (and that the delay was the right decision). Makes me wonder what security if there are server use cases were it doesn't matter for those select customers.There is the reason for the Sapphire Rapids delay:
Introducing the Intel® Data Streaming Accelerator (Intel® DSA) | 01.orgMakes me wonder what security if there are server use cases were it doesn't matter for those select customers.