You underestimate the hold Intel has on OEMs with its rebates and other programs.
You should know that Intel recently slashed the funding for the Intel Inside program.
You underestimate the hold Intel has on OEMs with its rebates and other programs.
They are not killing it though.. and neither AMD nor Nvidia have anything similar.You should know that Intel recently slashed the funding for the Intel Inside program.
You should know that Intel recently slashed the funding for the Intel Inside program.
It is not just about rebates though.
Do you think OEMs would risk selling a high end Ryzen APU with this GPU attached? Most of their buyers go Intel + Nvidia in this segment so how many wins do you think AMD would get if they even offered such a design?
I don't really see any downsides for AMD. They get to increase mind share with the Radeon branding, they will get more sales in a segment that they have struggled in, they make it more difficult for Nvidia, they get their foot in the door with OEMs which might lead to an all AMD APU being more likely to actually get design wins. Maybe the low end KL G will compete with the high end Ryzen APU but they are different power envelopes and will probably be in different form factor laptops so I am not so sure I see that much overlap.
The bottom line here though is that AMD will get more sales than they would have without the deal which can only really benefit them.
I see it as a win for AMD as well.
I am still now sure what Intel gets out of it.
Intel is probably building this for Apple and their main goal here is to reduce Nvidia's dominance. Nvidia is using Geforce revenue to fund their HPC efforts. So anything which can affect Nvidia's GPU business is good for Intel. AMD is not a threat in DL/ML/AI atleast(though in x86 server CPUs they are)where Nvidia is the No.1 dominant provider of GPUs and seeing explosive growth.
I’m my experience of folks asking for PC purchase advise, the majority don’t know what’s inside; intel or AMD doesn’t matter to them. They just want X PC to do Y task and they want a HP, Dell, Apple for the task.
It’s like cars, most folks think it’s made by the manufacturer. They don’t know that companies like Bosch, Brembo, Hella, etc make a lot of the components.
Another point to worth think about is AMD already confirmed the 7nm Vega. And Intel 10nm CPU is shipping. By this time next year we may see Whatever Lake -G that doubles in performance.
I see it as a win for AMD as well.
I am still now sure what Intel gets out of it.
Apple is 100% Intel CPU, and 100% AMD GPU, this changes nothing. NVidia isn't in that picture.
Especially since Apple can just hook up any Intel CPU to a Vega Mobile and have effectively the same thing with more flexability.
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Really, tacking on the Intel CPU to Vega Mobile does almost nothing. All the befit is from the HBM and Vega Mobile.
As a buyer I would rather use Vega Mobile, as you can then pair it with Any CPU. So you could build a SFF system with a 6 core CPU and Vega Mobile.
This. My sister recently bought a laptop during the holiday season, and the first thing she asked me was "is it fast?". She doesn't know what an Intel, AMD, or Nvidia is, and will never care as long as it turns on.
Intel released a photo of the Kaby Lake G NUC PCB, with an Apple Keyboard beside it, a sign of things to come?
You are able to preorder the NUC here
Got it here!Where did you get that photo ?
Dear God, please dont tell me they are releasing a new redesign super thin iMac base on that........
Mac Mini perhaps?iMacs have ports on the back of enclosure, not on the bottom or top, so chances are that isn't what this board is destined for.
Bit strange to have a Mac Mini with dual NICs, no?Mac Mini perhaps?
They have made server versions of the Mini's in that past. I'd agree that it probably isn't going into an Apple product. Just that it could is all.Bit strange to have a Mac Mini with dual NICs, no?
Mac Mini perhaps?
It's Hades Canyon, the ports line up nicely.
Then why take the hint literally? Just because they decide to hint towards using KBL-G in Apple products doesn't mean that particular board is going inside a new Mac.I know it is the board Hades Canyon, I was referring to hint of Intel posting a Kaby-G along with an Apple Desktop product.