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In Disney's shadow, homeless families struggle

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alkemyst said:
Makes no sense.

Why would you work for free in a job you didn't like to begin with?
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Well, it was almost for free. $6.00/Hr, part time and seasonal. So, I drove 20 miles, had to take a shuttle to get to the resort which took about 45 minutes. Then I had to walk across the entire park to go underground to get dressed, then walk across the park again to start work. Then repeat the process to go home. All for 4 hours of work at $6/hr. Felt like it was pretty much working for free to me.
 
moonbogg said:
Well, it was almost for free. $6.00/Hr, part time and seasonal. So, I drove 20 miles, had to take a shuttle to get to the resort which took about 45 minutes. Then I had to walk across the entire park to go underground to get dressed, then walk across the park again to start work. Then repeat the process to go home. All for 4 hours of work at $6/hr. Felt like it was pretty much working for free to me.
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That's your fault not Disney.

Jesus Christ!

What year was this?

At 16 I was making $12.50 per hour in 1997 full time. I had a couple side jobs too.
 
And Disney is offering to pay tuition for hourly workers.

"The Walt Disney Company will cover 100 percent of tuition upfront and will also reimburse application fees and required books and materials, removing the worry of paying to start or continue school,"

"Disney said the program includes a network of schools and offers a range degrees and disciplines, including college and master's degrees, high school equivalency, English-language learning and vocational training."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/disney-offers-to-pay-tuition-for-80000-hourly-workers/
 
So much better under the Trump Administration. People have hope now of a better life. The economy is booming, jobs are available and wages are increasing.

It's the economy, stupid.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
So much better under the Trump Administration. People have hope now of a better life. The economy is booming, jobs are available and wages are increasing.

It's the economy, stupid.
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Well, yeh, but the immigrants are stealing all the jobs. Except when they're mooching on welfare.

Meanwhile, the sunshine & rainbows aren't appearing out there in Trump country, the lands the Job Creators forgot about.
 
imported_tajmahal said:
So much better under the Trump Administration. People have hope now of a better life. The economy is booming, jobs are available and wages are increasing.

It's the economy, stupid.
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Yeah, wages are decreasing, kid.

The economy is going well but no one but the top 1% are getting any benefit from it, in fact wages are dragging behind as inflation increases during this upturn so 99% of all people are making less.

But you're obviously part of the 1% so you think it's great, right?

Or you think you'll be one day... but you won't.
 
Greenman said:
I'm not familiar with those policy's.
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SF is a great example. They limit the supply of housing which is the reason it has the most expensive housing in the US.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/London-Breed-mayor-never-owned-a-home-SF-13070193.php

"Addressing a crowd from the steps of City Hall, the first black female mayor of the city outlined an ambitious to-do list to fix some of the city's biggest problems. Among those Breed discussed was the high cost of living. Shee promised to build more housing in a city that has a woefully inadequate supply for the number of high-paying tech-related jobs it creates."

https://missionlocal.org/2018/04/amid-housing-crisis-sf-builds-fewer-units-last-year-than-in-2016/

"San Francisco added 4,441 housing units in 2017 — a 12 percent decrease, compared to net additions in 2016. Last year’s additions, however, are well above the 10-year average of 2,745 units built each year."

SF is the worst case. It limits housing permits. It also wants to keep SF lower density to keep the city SF.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_housing_shortage

"Since the 1960s, San Francisco and the surrounding Bay Area have enacted strict zoning regulations.[6] Among other restrictions, San Francisco does not allow buildings over 40 feet tall in most of the city, and has passed laws making it easier for neighbors to block developments.[7] Partly as a result of these codes, from 2007 to 2014, the Bay Area issued building permits for only half the number of needed houses, based on the area's population growth.[8] At the same time, there has been rapid economic growth of the high tech industry in San Francisco and nearby Silicon Valley, which has created hundreds of thousands of new jobs. The resultant high demand for housing, combined with the lack of supply, (caused by severe restrictions on the building of new housing units[9]) have caused dramatic increases in rents and extremely high housing prices.[10][11][12] For example, from 2012 to 2016, the San Francisco metropolitan area added 373,000 new jobs, but permitted only 58,000 new housing units.[13]"

Its sad. People are now renting their backyards so people can put a tent there because housing is so expensive.
 
The simple solution is to move the tech industry elsewhere.
SF streets are a disaster, and a parking lot during rush 3 hours. I don't go there anymore because of traffic and over crowding. Add to that a huge homeless population and it becomes a little piece of hell.
 
Zaap said:
For a leftloon busybody, you've got to have a big company to blame for everything and of course somehow extort some money out of.

Some loon should check if there's a Walmart in the area. Its probably all their fault too.
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Some of the blame goes to the people for not attempting to find a marketable skill-set but much falls on the Co's as well, Disney is up to $127 per ticket, per day and that's not including the food and merchandise bought in the park or income generated from properties, (lodging). No one is saying these people ought to be driving nice cars with nice clothing or eating steak dinners, all they want is a place to live that's not a motel 6. As these big Co's shaft their unskilled labor they inevitably turn to public assistance, Wal-mart even teaches new hires how to apply for SNAP benefits. Keep the execs fat and happy and keep the $$ rolling in for stockholders, screw the people that are actually helping you run your operation. Amazon's the same way, with Bezo's worth $150 billion one in 7 Amazon workers receives SNAP food benefits, this is just another way to transfer the burden to the government instead of doing the right thing.
 
I don't get it. The article says employees of Walt Disney World in the state of Florida are being given a raise to $15/hr. Why are you discussing the cost of living in California?
 
BUTCH1 said:
Some of the blame goes to the people for not attempting to find a marketable skill-set but much falls on the Co's as well, Disney is up to $127 per ticket, per day and that's not including the food and merchandise bought in the park or income generated from properties, (lodging). No one is saying these people ought to be driving nice cars with nice clothing or eating steak dinners, all they want is a place to live that's not a motel 6. As these big Co's shaft their unskilled labor they inevitably turn to public assistance, Wal-mart even teaches new hires how to apply for SNAP benefits. Keep the execs fat and happy and keep the $$ rolling in for stockholders, screw the people that are actually helping you run your operation. Amazon's the same way, with Bezo's worth $150 billion one in 7 Amazon workers receives SNAP food benefits, this is just another way to transfer the burden to the government instead of doing the right thing.
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The entire economy has a working poor issue, not just particular companies. It has to do with wages VS the cost of living... going back 40 years. it is also viewable in the GAP between productivity and wages. When my father speaks of people pumping gas at a gas station and supporting a family, he ain't kidding. I suspect we'd need to see wages start at $20/hr to try and compare ourselves to the economy the baby boomers enjoyed.

Income Inequality is the part where wages are stagnant, productivity and costs are rising. Over several decades it has formed a horrific gap that has deprived America's lower and middle class of wealth and opportunity. Our campaign must be to restore that order, but given how Capitalism is evolving and disposing of labor we need something bold, to think outside the box.

We'll be buried if we're left arguing over minimum wage. We have to go beyond that. If America's productivity is not properly shared by wages, then a Basic Income can do that for us.
 
Greenman said:
Average home price in the bay area is a million bucks. $15 an hour doesn't go far in that market.
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I wonder if a city has considered tying minimum wage to the median housing price for the city. As minimum wage skyrocketed, it might encourage citizens to support measures to keep affordable housing available.
 
I took the kids there 2 years ago and regretted it. Everything sucked, everything. Epic waste of time and money, seemed like no matter where we went the service ranged from horrible with plenty of attitude ,to almost nonexistent. I remember being especially horrified with the food, and hearing hushed tones of visiting Europeans at other tables feel the same way. Crowds were insane. The only plus was seeing my kids marvel at the Disney stuff.

No surprise Disney does this to it's workers when it treats it's customers the way it does.
 
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