Imagine God.

[Sea Moose]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Which god?

Yaweh

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: Sea Moose
GodlessAstronomer is pwning this thread.

:laugh: Appreciate the support

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
The Emperor loves all. We are all children of the Emperor. The Emperor keeps chaos at bay, keeps us safe in our homes, and unifies the imperium of Mankind.

O Eternal Emperor,
Who Alone watches us,
And rules the tides and storms,
Be compassionate to your servants,
Preserve us from the perils of the warp,
That we may be safeguard to the domain of men!

North Korean?

Grey Knight

 

[Analog]

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=38&threadid=2022603

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Honestly imagine that God does exist. This God is a sincere spirit. God has heartfelt feelings and you can talk with him. God does and thinks true things. God is factually unlimited. God is exact and unchanging. God is everything that is right with this world. Everything about God is true. Everything God ever promised is true. God is love.

Imagine that God literally came in the form of a man. A man who could have acceptably had or done anything he wanted. A proper man that let inhabitants of this earth murder him so those murderers could live forever. A man who, in his being God, was risen from the grave three days later. A man who accurately promised that if we trust in him, we are already saved.

Would you love this God? Would you love this Man?

Are you sure you are correct?

No, God came in the form of a woman. Then she gave birth to Jesus several months later.




Ahhh, let's see here. Fine, we can talk to God. Yeah, I can talk to walls too - it doesn't matter if they don't talk back. Whenever people claim God is communicating back, it's always circumstantial evidence - which of course God doesn't like anyway (evidence) because he's all hard for faith, for whatever obsessive reasons he may have.

You also put forth an infinitely knowing God who is also incapable of change. Therefore God knows everything and cannot learn - which also pretty much shoots free will in the face. Since everything is known, he knew exactly how everything in Creation would turn out right at the moment it was all made. He therefore knowingly created flawed humans who would turn against his wishes, but instead of correcting the design flaw, perhaps because he is "exact and unchanging," he instead chose to punish his creations for doing what he made them to do.

So then God came to Earth in the form of a person. God let humans kill him so that he could come back to life, and for whatever reason, this magically absolved sin and grants a Go to Heaven Free pass to people who can stomach that idea. Why that had to happen, and why God couldn't just wave a hand and say, "By the grace of Billy Mays, sins be gone!", who knows.
And really, so what if he rose from the grave 3 days later. It was God, right? So 1) Killing him would have been impossible anyway, and if an all-powerful deity can be killed by hanging around on a cross for a few days, oy, that's just pathetic, and 2) Well, he is God, so he probably wasn't really dead anyway. Big deal.


I would have just a few problems with this God, and would very much like to hear his ideas on the various logical fallacies and silly aspects of his very existence. Then I'll also try to sell him an infinitely long, infinitely strong bridge, which is truly worth my asking price - I know it to be so, because I have faith.

 

[Sea Moose]

Jesus loves the children

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I would have just a few problems with this God, and would very much like to hear his ideas on the various logical fallacies and silly aspects of his very existence.

God can not do anything, the bible never says that he can... for example, God can not contradict himself. To do so would be contrary to the facts that he created.

instead chose to punish his creations for doing what he made them to do.

from another perspective: instead of eliminating the existence of every wrong-directioned human he allowed them to continue existing so that they could have a chance at turning back.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
God is factually unlimited.

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
God can not do anything...

Que?

 

[meltdown75]

yawn

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

I would have just a few problems with this God, and would very much like to hear his ideas on the various logical fallacies and silly aspects of his very existence.

God can not do anything, the bible never says that he can... for example, God can not contradict himself. To do so would be contrary to the facts that he created.

instead chose to punish his creations for doing what he made them to do.

from another perspective: instead of eliminating the existence of every wrong-directioned human he allowed them to continue existing so that they could have a chance at turning back.

So, he had full knowledge of their future, including the eventual punishment they would receive, and created them anyway? What an amazing god. I can't wait to hear more.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Your fantasy world is no different from the Christians fantasy world. Hypothetically, if I were in this fantasy world, and the guy really did exist, I would indeed love this god and his man form.
I would also love unicorns and elf fairy queens. And we would have magical adventures in rainbows, with gummy bear hearts and chocolate dreams.


EDIT: Also, that list sucks. Theres no Lilith on it, and Valkyries werent gods, they were messengers and guides.

Wikipedia says Lilith is a mythological demon != God. Therefore she should not be on the list, unless it is just a list of powerful mystical beings we don't believe in...

Anyone want to make that list?

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Honestly imagine that God does exist. This God is a sincere spirit. God has heartfelt feelings and you can talk with him. God does and thinks true things. God is factually unlimited. God is exact and unchanging. God is everything that is right with this world. Everything about God is true. Everything God ever promised is true. God is love.

Imagine that God literally came in the form of a man. A man who could have acceptably had or done anything he wanted. A proper man that let inhabitants of this earth murder him so those murderers could live forever. A man who, in his being God, was risen from the grave three days later. A man who accurately promised that if we trust in him, we are already saved.

Would you love this God? Would you love this Man?

Are you sure you are correct?

I never understood what one man dying has to do with saving people----if God could do whatever he wants, why all the hoopla?

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

I would have just a few problems with this God, and would very much like to hear his ideas on the various logical fallacies and silly aspects of his very existence.

God can not do anything, the bible never says that he can... for example, God can not contradict himself. To do so would be contrary to the facts that he created.

instead chose to punish his creations for doing what he made them to do.

from another perspective: instead of eliminating the existence of every wrong-directioned human he allowed them to continue existing so that they could have a chance at turning back.

You are an arrogant ass. Assuming God does exist, what could possibly make you think that you are qualified to interpret his/her/its intent or purposes?

 

[IronWing]

Honestly imagine my sock puppet. This sock puppet is a sincere spirit. My sock puppet has heartfelt feelings and you can talk with him. My sock puppet agrees with everything you think. My sock puppet is always right. The sock puppet is exact and unchanging. My sock puppet is everything that is right with this world. Everything said by my sock puppet is true. Everything my sock puppet ever promised is true. My sock puppet, by definition, is love.

Imagine that my sock puppet literally came to life as a real boy. A real boy who could have acceptably had or done anything he wanted. A proper boy that let inhabitants of this earth murder him so those murderers could live forever. A real boy who, in his being my sock puppet, was risen from the grave three days later. A real boy who accurately promised that if we trust in him, we are already saved.

Would you love my sock puppet? Would you love this real boy, would you Geppetto?

Are you sure you are correct?

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: ironwing
Honestly imagine my sock puppet. This sock puppet is a sincere spirit. My sock puppet has heartfelt feelings and you can talk with him. My sock puppet agrees with everything you think. My sock puppet is always right. The sock puppet is exact and unchanging. My sock puppet is everything that is right with this world. Everything said by my sock puppet is true. Everything my sock puppet ever promised is true. My sock puppet, by definition, is love.

Imagine that my sock puppet literally came to life as a real boy. A real boy who could have acceptably had or done anything he wanted. A proper boy that let inhabitants of this earth murder him so those murderers could live forever. A real boy who, in his being my sock puppet, was risen from the grave three days later. A real boy who accurately promised that if we trust in him, we are already saved.

Would you love my sock puppet? Would you love this real boy, would you Geppetto?

Are you sure you are correct?

There are rumours that that isn't your hand in there.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Honestly imagine that God does exist. This God is a sincere spirit. God has heartfelt feelings and you can talk with him. God does and thinks true things. God is factually unlimited. God is exact and unchanging. God is everything that is right with this world. Everything about God is true. Everything God ever promised is true. God is love.

Imagine that God literally came in the form of a man. A man who could have acceptably had or done anything he wanted. A proper man that let inhabitants of this earth murder him so those murderers could live forever. A man who, in his being God, was risen from the grave three days later. A man who accurately promised that if we trust in him, we are already saved.

Would you love this God? Would you love this Man?

Are you sure you are correct?

I never understood what one man dying has to do with saving people----if God could do whatever he wants, why all the hoopla?

So that humans, as we are, can come to our own conclusions and see for ourselves who and what we are.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Honestly imagine that God does exist. This God is a sincere spirit. God has heartfelt feelings and you can talk with him. God does and thinks true things. God is factually unlimited. God is exact and unchanging. God is everything that is right with this world. Everything about God is true. Everything God ever promised is true. God is love.

Imagine that God literally came in the form of a man. A man who could have acceptably had or done anything he wanted. A proper man that let inhabitants of this earth murder him so those murderers could live forever. A man who, in his being God, was risen from the grave three days later. A man who accurately promised that if we trust in him, we are already saved.

Would you love this God? Would you love this Man?

Are you sure you are correct?

I never understood what one man dying has to do with saving people----if God could do whatever he wants, why all the hoopla?

So that humans, as we are, can come to our own conclusions and see for ourselves who and what we are.

Wow, that was deep. So deep, in fact, that my bullshit meter just exploded.

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Honestly imagine that God does exist. This God is a sincere spirit. God has heartfelt feelings and you can talk with him. God does and thinks true things. God is factually unlimited. God is exact and unchanging. God is everything that is right with this world. Everything about God is true. Everything God ever promised is true. God is love.

Imagine that God literally came in the form of a man. A man who could have acceptably had or done anything he wanted. A proper man that let inhabitants of this earth murder him so those murderers could live forever. A man who, in his being God, was risen from the grave three days later. A man who accurately promised that if we trust in him, we are already saved.

Would you love this God? Would you love this Man?

Are you sure you are correct?

I never understood what one man dying has to do with saving people----if God could do whatever he wants, why all the hoopla?

So that humans, as we are, can come to our own conclusions and see for ourselves who and what we are.

And you were personally selected to disseminate this truth amongst us? That's nice. As far as I'm concerned religions are like genitals: they should be covered up from view unless I specifically ask to see them.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Honestly imagine that God does exist. This God is a sincere spirit. God has heartfelt feelings and you can talk with him. God does and thinks true things. God is factually unlimited. God is exact and unchanging. God is everything that is right with this world. Everything about God is true. Everything God ever promised is true. God is love.

Imagine that God literally came in the form of a man. A man who could have acceptably had or done anything he wanted. A proper man that let inhabitants of this earth murder him so those murderers could live forever. A man who, in his being God, was risen from the grave three days later. A man who accurately promised that if we trust in him, we are already saved.

Would you love this God? Would you love this Man?

Are you sure you are correct?

I never understood what one man dying has to do with saving people----if God could do whatever he wants, why all the hoopla?

In a parallel universe, "God" was banned from AT for being an Attention Whore.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

And you were personally selected to disseminate this truth amongst us?

Probably not.. probably violating Jesus' commandment not to cast pearls of wisdom before the feet of those who will stomp on them and turn back to bight you for the effort.

But then I got a few thoughtful and interesting responses... so who's to say?

The sock-puppet one is funny; those who answered the question directly were enlightening.

Turns out that only most atheists are ass-hats while some are willing to actually step out of their paradigm for a moment to see the world through anther's eyes and acknowledge the good that the "enemy" sees.

World-View changing is an important thing to learn in life if you want to become an intellectually honest person.

In a parallel universe, "God" was banned from AT for being an Attention Whore.

[/quote]
The levels of Irony are striking.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
God is factually unlimited.

God knows facts... like what ((2^0.5 x pi^e)+4)*c/h is without using a calculator!!

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
God can not do anything...

Impotent God does not excite me

im·po·tent: Lacking in power, as to act effectively; helpless

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
World-View changing is an important thing to learn in life if you want to become an intellectually honest person.

In a parallel universe, "God" was banned from AT for being an Attention Whore.

The levels of Irony are striking.

Indeed.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

And you were personally selected to disseminate this truth amongst us?

Probably not.. probably violating Jesus' commandment not to cast pearls of wisdom before the feet of those who will stomp on them and turn back to bight you for the effort.

But then I got a few thoughtful and interesting responses... so who's to say?

The sock-puppet one is funny; those who answered the question directly were enlightening.

Turns out that only most atheists are ass-hats while some are willing to actually step out of their paradigm for a moment to see the world through anther's eyes and acknowledge the good that the "enemy" sees.

World-View changing is an important thing to learn in life if you want to become an intellectually honest person.

In a parallel universe, "God" was banned from AT for being an Attention Whore.

The levels of Irony are striking.[/quote]

Are they? I don't recall demanding all to bow and Worship and heed my Commands. Then again maybe that's what this Interdimensional Communicator is for.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
God is factually unlimited.

God knows facts... like what ((2^0.5 x pi^e)+4)*c/h is without using a calculator!!

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
God can not do anything...

Impotent God does not excite me

im·po·tent: Lacking in power, as to act effectively; helpless

God sets the rules and then doesn't violate them, If he did God would be less truthful.

daniel1113:
how have I been intellectually dishonest?

the levels of irony are striking

Are they? I don't recall demanding all to bow and Worship and heed my Commands. Then again maybe that's what this Interdimensional Communicator is for.

not a Jab at you, more of a jab at myself and the premise of a God that wants us to worship Him... but If you're feeling guiltily about something Jesus forgives even the least of sins :-D

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
God is factually unlimited.

God knows facts... like what ((2^0.5 x pi^e)+4)*c/h is without using a calculator!!

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
God can not do anything...

Impotent God does not excite me

im·po·tent: Lacking in power, as to act effectively; helpless

WTF? I never posted this stuff