Imagine God.

[Dr. Zaus]

Honestly imagine that God does exist. This God is a sincere spirit. God has heartfelt feelings and you can talk with him. God does and thinks true things. God is factually unlimited. God is exact and unchanging. God is everything that is right with this world. Everything about God is true. Everything God ever promised is true. God is love.

Imagine that God literally came in the form of a man. A man who could have acceptably had or done anything he wanted. A proper man that let inhabitants of this earth murder him so those murderers could live forever. A man who, in his being God, was risen from the grave three days later. A man who accurately promised that if we trust in him, we are already saved.

Would you love this God? Would you love this Man?

Are you sure you are correct?

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Which god?

 

[shortylickens]

Your fantasy world is no different from the Christians fantasy world. Hypothetically, if I were in this fantasy world, and the guy really did exist, I would indeed love this god and his man form.
I would also love unicorns and elf fairy queens. And we would have magical adventures in rainbows, with gummy bear hearts and chocolate dreams.


EDIT: Also, that list sucks. Theres no Lilith on it, and Valkyries werent gods, they were messengers and guides.

 

[JohnCU]

way too early

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Which god?

As described above no more, no less.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Your fantasy world is no different from the Christians fantasy world. Hypothetically, if I were in this fantasy world, and the guy really did exist, I would indeed love this god and his man form.

I ask because I have been led to believe that those who do not believe would not.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Your fantasy world is no different from the Christians fantasy world. Hypothetically, if I were in this fantasy world, and the guy really did exist, I would indeed love this god and his man form.

I ask because I have been lead to believe that those who do not believe would not.

Led.

And would not what?

 

[sandorski]

Seen better spam.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Which god?

As described above no more, no less.

So you mean your god? For which there is no more or less evidence than any other god?

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Your fantasy world is no different from the Christians fantasy world. Hypothetically, if I were in this fantasy world, and the guy really did exist, I would indeed love this god and his man form.

I ask because I have been lead to believe that those who do not believe would not.

Would not what? All you asked in the OP is that we imagine something to be true. I could ask you to imagine that the Earth is hollow, but so what?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

"would not" being the response I am expecting to the questions at the end of the OP. I hope to be pleasantly surprised and find some people open-minded enough to put themselves in the shoes of others.

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Which god?

As described above no more, no less.

So you mean your god?

Why is that important to the thought-experiment?

 

[sandorski]

John Lennon did it better.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
"would not" being the response I am expecting to the questions at the end of the OP. I hope to be pleasantly surprised and find some people open-minded enough to put themselves in the shoes of others.

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Which god?

As described above no more, no less.

So you mean your god?

Why is that important to the thought-experiment?

This isn't a thought experiment. What is the point of this little exercise? It's nothing but a troll thread.

Ok, so I'm visualizing a world with a god. Great. So what? This world is boring, mine now has unicorns and smurfs. Is that visualization any more or less real? What's the point here?

To answer the question at the end of your OP, yes I would love a god as described. However if god happens to be true then you're leaving out lots of little details like human pain and suffering and death and disease and evil and sadness and loneliness.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

The Emperor loves all. We are all children of the Emperor. The Emperor keeps chaos at bay, keeps us safe in our homes, and unifies the imperium of Mankind.

O Eternal Emperor,
Who Alone watches us,
And rules the tides and storms,
Be compassionate to your servants,
Preserve us from the perils of the warp,
That we may be safeguard to the domain of men!

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
The Emperor loves all. We are all children of the Emperor. The Emperor keeps chaos at bay, keeps us safe in our homes, and unifies the imperium of Mankind.

O Eternal Emperor,
Who Alone watches us,
And rules the tides and storms,
Be compassionate to your servants,
Preserve us from the perils of the warp,
That we may be safeguard to the domain of men!

North Korean?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Originally posted by: sandorski
John Lennon did it better.

Humans war internally against themselves, only when we do what John is suggesting in that song and side with Love against ourselves do we ever win that war.

The sad thing is that those who have won that war are greatly out-numbered by those who dress fancy on Sunday and pretend that they have; this being the true objection raised by the song.

In that light it is easy to see why war, religion, promises of heaven and atheistic promises of utopia on earth have all been used to murder millions.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
"would not" being the response I am expecting to the questions at the end of the OP. I hope to be pleasantly surprised and find some people open-minded enough to put themselves in the shoes of others.

Ahhh, now I see why you needed to find some atheists.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: sandorski
John Lennon did it better.

Humans war internally against themselves, only when we do what John is suggesting in that song and side with Love against ourselves do we ever win that war.

The sad thing is that those who have won that war are greatly out-numbered by those who dress fancy on Sunday and pretend that they have; this being the true objection raised by the song.

In that light it is easy to see why war, religion, promises of heaven and atheistic promises of utopia on earth have all been used to murder millions.

Is there anything more smug than a true believer?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
"would not" being the response I am expecting to the questions at the end of the OP. I hope to be pleasantly surprised and find some people open-minded enough to put themselves in the shoes of others.

Ahhh, now I see why you needed to find some atheists.

haha! indeed;

Though, you can see how hard it is to pull a simple "that sounds good", when you describe the good parts, out of people pre-programed to hate the bad parts.

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Ok, so I'm visualizing a world with a god. Great. So what? This world is boring.

However if god happens to be true then you're leaving out lots of little details like human pain and suffering and death and disease and evil and sadness and loneliness.

That angst, never being satisfied when we do have perfection, is exactly why we don't have it.

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Is there anything more smug than a true believer?

There is nothing more humble than a true believer in Christ.. something I am not but someday hope to be.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Ok, so I'm visualizing a world with a god. Great. So what? This world is boring.

However if god happens to be true then you're leaving out lots of little details like human pain and suffering and death and disease and evil and sadness and loneliness.

That angst, never being satisfied when we do have perfection, is exactly why we don't have it.

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Is there anything more smug than a true believer?

There is nothing more humble than a true believer in Christ.. something I am not but someday hope to be.

I don't think I've ever wanted to punch someone through the internet so badly.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Ok, so I'm visualizing a world with a god. Great. So what? This world is boring.

However if god happens to be true then you're leaving out lots of little details like human pain and suffering and death and disease and evil and sadness and loneliness.

That angst, never being satisfied when we do have perfection, is exactly why we don't have it.

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Is there anything more smug than a true believer?

There is nothing more humble than a true believer in Christ.. something I am not but someday hope to be.

I don't think I've ever wanted to punch someone through the internet so badly.

Love you to bro.

But your angst is nothing that any one of us wouldn't have felt at the same suggestion... I am not singling you, personal, out as any different than I.

 

[Sea Moose]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Honestly imagine that God does exist. This God is a sincere spirit. God has heartfelt feelings and you can talk with him. God does and thinks true things. God is factually unlimited. God is exact and unchanging. God is everything that is right with this world. Everything about God is true. Everything God ever promised is true. God is love.

Imagine that God literally came in the form of a man. A man who could have acceptably had or done anything he wanted. A proper man that let inhabitants of this earth murder him so those murderers could live forever. A man who, in his being God, was risen from the grave three days later. A man who accurately promised that if we trust in him, we are already saved.

Would you love this God? Would you love this Man?

Are you sure you are correct?

gay

 

[Sea Moose]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: DixyCrat

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Ok, so I'm visualizing a world with a god. Great. So what? This world is boring.

However if god happens to be true then you're leaving out lots of little details like human pain and suffering and death and disease and evil and sadness and loneliness.

That angst, never being satisfied when we do have perfection, is exactly why we don't have it.

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Is there anything more smug than a true believer?

There is nothing more humble than a true believer in Christ.. something I am not but someday hope to be.

I don't think I've ever wanted to punch someone through the internet so badly.

Haha This this this

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: DixyCrat
Love you to bro.

But your angst is nothing that any one of us wouldn't have felt at the same suggestion... I am not singling you, personal, out as any different than I.

What suggestion? What are you talking about? You've officially made my "worst forum members ever" list.

 

[Sea Moose]

GodlessAstronomer is pwning this thread.