Illegal immigrant kills naturalized police officer

[SlowSpyder]

I consider us lucky immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate then our native population.

Immigrants or illegal immigrants? Do you have some kind of breakdown?

At any rate, this ILLEGAL immigrant should not have been in this country to do this. Sanctuary laws failed us.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Bolded: That doesn't really matter and has nothing to do with the killing of this officer, since no evidence has been shown that illegal immigrants kill officers at a disproportionate percentage compared to native/naturalized citizens. This is all about your feels, and it's saddening that you will use the situation to push your anti-immigrant agenda, when the reality is our economy is intertwined with the availability of illegal immigrants. If you doubt this, go work in a field for a few days for the same pay as an illegal immigrant.

So you can debate what should or shouldn't be if you want. I'll stick with reality.

You guys twist things. I'm very pro-immigration, I love our mixing pot. I am anti-ILLEGAL immigration, however. We need to vet those that we allow into our country to be citizens. You liberals purposely distort reality here. Illegal immigrant is not the same thing as a legal immigrant.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You guys twist things. I'm very pro-immigration, I love our mixing pot. I am anti-ILLEGAL immigration, however. We need to vet those that we allow into our country to be citizens. You liberals purposely distort reality here. Illegal immigrant is not the same thing as a legal immigrant.

I haven't distorted anything, and you're just avoiding what I posted now.

 

[fskimospy]

Once nice thing is that Trump's actions have done away with the lie that right wing people are only against illegal immigration. Trump is working very hard to lower legal immigration as well and conservatives have no problem with it.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I haven't distorted anything, and you're just avoiding what I posted now.

Not at all. You said I'm anti-immigrant. That is completely false. I am anti-illegal immigrant. There is a difference, you refuse to acknowledge that.

Legal immigrants? I welcome them with open arms and hope they love all America has to offer and contribute to our melting pot.

Illegal immigrants? I want to build a catapult that shoots them back to their country.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Not at all. You said I'm anti-immigrant. That is completely false. I am anti-illegal immigrant. There is a difference, you refuse to acknowledge that.

Legal immigrants? I welcome them with open arms and hope they love all America has to offer and contribute to our melting pot.

Illegal immigrants? I want to build a catapult that shoots them back to their country.

If this is the hair you want to split, go for it. You know exactly what I meant. Reality bites: illegal-immigrants are critical to our economy. You want to stop illegal immigrants, take it up with the job creators.

 

[SlowSpyder]

If this is the hair you want to split, go for it. You know exactly what I meant. Reality bites: illegal-immigrants are critical to our economy. You want to stop illegal immigrants, take it up with the job creators.

You think the difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration is splitting hairs? L O L

 

[ch33zw1z]

You think the difference between illegal immigration and legal immigration is splitting hairs? L O L

False, it's your quibble, not mine. You read my post in that way because you forgot about, or simply ignored, context. That's on you.

And you still haven't addressed the content of my post, you're just duhverting.

 

[dlerious]

Yes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be here. Immigrants need to be vetted and come to our country legally. I don't care what religion, skin color, gender/sex, etc. any legal immigrant is. As we see here, sanctuary laws failed us. I do mourn the loss of this legal immigrant. He seems like EXACTLY the type of people we want to come to our country and add a piece of their culture to the mixing pot. Sadly he lost his life to an illegal immigrant that shouldn't have had a gun ,shouldn't have been here.

And yet, the largest group of illegal immigrants were supposedly vetted and came here legally. No wall is going to stop them.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Once nice thing is that Trump's actions have done away with the lie that right wing people are only against illegal immigration. Trump is working very hard to lower legal immigration as well and conservatives have no problem with it.

Yet the Trump supporter active in this thread claims he welcomes legal immigrants with open arms...lol

All of this information is readily available. Maybe if Fox News ran the story, Slow would take notice

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1403/limit-legal-immigration/

https://abcnews.go.com/beta-story-c...ion-apparently-helped-wifes/story?id=57132429

 

[Commodus]

You are the one not getting it. This "the left isn't racist, only the right is" shtick is getting old. I acknowledge that there are racists that come from the right, Nazis, KKK and such. They are fringe groups though. On the other hand, the left has embraced racism as their mainstream in many ways. Affirmative Action, BLM, etc., the left has created this anti-white mainstream hate. And lefties also create anti-minority racism where there was none. This story has nothing to do with skin color or race. But several of you have been happy to inject comments about that, creating racist hate where none existed before. To racists, everything is about race.

No, I get it. You just beat the same old drum and wonder why we aren't marching in lock-step.

BLM, at a minimum, isn't racism. It's an acknowledgment that police murder unarmed black people at a disproportionately high rate, and that racism is frequently a motivating factor in those murders. It's addressing a problem that's unique to the black community. Think of it this way: if there's one house on fire in a neighborhood, you don't pour water on every house to be "fair."

Also, racism is not solely about paying attention to race. It can also involve pretending that race isn't an issue because you know the status quo unfairly favors your own ethnicity. It can also involve giving yourself carte blanche (pardon the pun) to do anything you like because you feel that racism is "over." My 'favorite:' the Republicans who write saccharine odes to MLK on his holiday while explicitly disenfranchising black people the other 364 days of the year.

 

[MrSquished]

So can we correlate that all illegals are bad people from this?

 

[SlowSpyder]

So can we correlate that all illegals are bad people from this?

Of course not. But all illegals are here illegally. And we should vet whom we allow into our country as permanent residents and citizens. This is common sense.

 

[SlowSpyder]

No, I get it. You just beat the same old drum and wonder why we aren't marching in lock-step.

BLM, at a minimum, isn't racism. It's an acknowledgment that police murder unarmed black people at a disproportionately high rate, and that racism is frequently a motivating factor in those murders. It's addressing a problem that's unique to the black community. Think of it this way: if there's one house on fire in a neighborhood, you don't pour water on every house to be "fair."

Also, racism is not solely about paying attention to race. It can also involve pretending that race isn't an issue because you know the status quo unfairly favors your own ethnicity. It can also involve giving yourself carte blanche (pardon the pun) to do anything you like because you feel that racism is "over." My 'favorite:' the Republicans who write saccharine odes to MLK on his holiday while explicitly disenfranchising black people the other 364 days of the year.

You guys blame Trump rhetoric for enabling Nazis but then pretend leftist BLM racist rhetoric doesn't create situations like this.

You can turn a blind eye to leftist racism all you'd like, but it does exist and is a problem. Today I'd argue that leftist racism has a larger negative net impact to society than right fringe group racism. For the left racism is mainstream mantra, for the right it is a fringe element.

 

[Viper1j]

I see, we’re going with the “we’re all illegal immigrants” narrative. How far back do you want to pull that string?

The truth is a "string"?

Whodathunk!

There is no gravity, the earth just sucks.

 

[HomerJS]

You guys twist things. I'm very pro-immigration, I love our mixing pot. I am anti-ILLEGAL immigration, however. We need to vet those that we allow into our country to be citizens. You liberals purposely distort reality here. Illegal immigrant is not the same thing as a legal immigrant.

Unless the immigrants come from shithole countries. Sound familiar?

 

[HomerJS]

You guys blame Trump rhetoric for enabling Nazis but then pretend leftist BLM racist rhetoric doesn't create situations like this.

You can turn a blind eye to leftist racism all you'd like, but it does exist and is a problem. Today I'd argue that leftist racism has a larger negative net impact to society than right fringe group racism. For the left racism is mainstream mantra, for the right it is a fringe element.

Hey, Stupid the murderer of eleven in Pittsburgh quoted a Trump retweet George Soros funded the caravan and we all know Soros is one of those "dirty Jews"

ZERO evidence BLM inspired the Dallas shooter. Than again, you never let bullshit stop you before.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Unless the immigrants come from shithole countries. Sound familiar?

Because a country is a shithole doesn't mean good people cannot come from that country and emigrate here and be a contributing member of society, like the police officer that is part of the subject of this thread.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Unless the immigrants come from shithole countries. Sound familiar?

lol, read my mind.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...ti-african-countries-shithole-nations-n836946

Party of short term memory loss. Huh? whuh?

 

[SlowSpyder]

Hey, Stupid the murderer of eleven in Pittsburgh quoted a Trump retweet George Soros funded the caravan and we all know Soros is one of those "dirty Jews"

ZERO evidence BLM inspired the Dallas shooter. Than again, you never let bullshit stop you before.

LOL guy...

Sure dude.

Whatever you say.

No link to BLM.

 

[HomerJS]

Because a country is a shithole doesn't mean good people cannot come from that country and emigrate here and be a contributing member of society, like the police officer that is part of the subject of this thread.

Don't backpedal now. You and your Lord continue to denigrate predominately black countries. That's why all Haitians have Aids, right?

That why you and Trump want your immigrants from Norway, right?

 

[SlowSpyder]

Don't backpedal now. You and your Lord continue to denigrate predominately black countries. That's why all Haitians have Aids, right?

That why you and Trump want your immigrants from Norway, right?

You live in a world of exaggeration and Democrat talking points. Let me know when you'd like to join me back in reality.

 

[fskimospy]

You live in a world of exaggeration and Democrat talking points. Let me know when you'd like to join me back in reality.

I love how 'Democrat talking points' are basically quoting Trump's own statements verbatim. lol.

Guys, when will you join SlowSpyder back in reality where Katy Perry the Satanist is performing Illuminati rituals at the Super Bowl?

 

[Jhhnn]

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Immigrants or illegal immigrants? Do you have some kind of breakdown?

At any rate, this ILLEGAL immigrant should not have been in this country to do this. Sanctuary laws failed us.

The federal govt failed us when the guy got in. If CA held every low level illegal miscreant until ICE decided to come and get them CA jails would be dangerously over populated. They also lack the Constitutional authority to do so.

But they also have a responsibility to enforce their own laws & extend such protections to all residents. That isn't easy when a fair % of the population avoids contact with the police for fear of La Migra. That's 10% of the population of Greater LA, for example-

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/02/09/us-metro-areas-unauthorized-immigrants/

It's also quite remarkable how Wall! ravers seem to live in places where illegals are relatively rare-

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...of-a-border-wall-proximity-to-mexico-matters/

That's pretty special, considering it's based on fear of the unknown, kinda like reefer madness. If you think people who live with illegals really want ICE to come & tear their communities apart like the fucking Gestapo you probably want to reconsider.

 

[Commodus]

You guys blame Trump rhetoric for enabling Nazis but then pretend leftist BLM racist rhetoric doesn't create situations like this.

You can turn a blind eye to leftist racism all you'd like, but it does exist and is a problem. Today I'd argue that leftist racism has a larger negative net impact to society than right fringe group racism. For the left racism is mainstream mantra, for the right it is a fringe element.

Again, BLM isn't inherently racist. The vast majority of its leaders do not advocate retaliation against police; they want accountability for police. Also, at last check one anti-police shooter doesn't negate the entirely legitimate complaints of a broader movement. US police killed 1,147 people in 2017, 25 percent of them black (twice the percentage of the black population) -- and when roughly two thirds of black people killed tend to be unarmed or non-violent, that means 189 black people were likely killed for no good reason.

Also, I'd like to point out the hypocrisy of claiming that racists are "fringe" on the right (they're not) while simultaneously insisting that one obviously fringe person represents all of the BLM movement. Are you not even vaguely self-aware?