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AgaBoogaBoo

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I think a good balance would be nice personally... I don't really like those extreme point of views, they're good for discussion however not much more than that. Having a family on a $30k/year salary isn't exactly the best situation to be in not to mention I'd have to wonder what kind of work ethic I'd have that my children would learn from if I was just a cashier at Wal*Mart my entire life.
 

GeekDrew

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Originally posted by: KuJaX
Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: KuJaX
Originally posted by: Tylanner
nothing fvcking matters if you dont have friends

You'll grow up one day and realize that 99% of your "growing up" friends will do absolutely nothing for you to become successful in this life as far as financially and family. Family is the only thing that matters. Friends come and go.

...who says that he doesn't realize that? A family is just another kind of friend. And don't give me that "biological" or "adopted" blah blah blah... a family is what you make it. If that happens to be a bunch of friends, so be it.

lol. Friends, as in hangout friends? They are near worthless. You only need one, maybe two actual "friends" to get along well. sure, high school and college it was fun having a lot of friends, but chances are, you will never talk to 90% of them again your life after graduation.

For the people that friends are their family....... i feel really bad for you.

I'm not saying that every friend is family, nor that the every-day "hangout" friends are family. I'm not saying that they aren't, either. I know some people that just have more family in their friends than anything else. I don't know how that is so hard to understand... and it's not like all of these people are teenagers... they're 40-50 years old in some cases.
 

imported_KuJaX

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Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: KuJaX
Originally posted by: GeekDrew
Originally posted by: KuJaX
Originally posted by: Tylanner
nothing fvcking matters if you dont have friends

You'll grow up one day and realize that 99% of your "growing up" friends will do absolutely nothing for you to become successful in this life as far as financially and family. Family is the only thing that matters. Friends come and go.

...who says that he doesn't realize that? A family is just another kind of friend. And don't give me that "biological" or "adopted" blah blah blah... a family is what you make it. If that happens to be a bunch of friends, so be it.

lol. Friends, as in hangout friends? They are near worthless. You only need one, maybe two actual "friends" to get along well. sure, high school and college it was fun having a lot of friends, but chances are, you will never talk to 90% of them again your life after graduation.

For the people that friends are their family....... i feel really bad for you.

I'm not saying that every friend is family, nor that the every-day "hangout" friends are family. I'm not saying that they aren't, either. I know some people that just have more family in their friends than anything else. I don't know how that is so hard to understand... and it's not like all of these people are teenagers... they're 40-50 years old in some cases.


True. Sorry about the misunderstanding. :)
 

mercanucaribe

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If those are the only two options, America must be full of unhappy rich people and unhappy poor people with malnourished kids...
 

SilentZero

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Money means absolutely nothing when compared to true love. Only the lonely or stupid think otherwise. I however am fortunate enough to have both financial stability and love.
 

etalns

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I don't know, I think a lot of people are just assuming that you would dislike your job. Working 90 hour weeks in a job you loathe would obviously not be fun. However, I think some people would thrive on their work and truly enjoy it. In that case, I would definitely go with number 2. But if I would be miserable at work all the time, I would choose #1.

Money allows you to enjoy life, there is no question about it. When you are just going from bill to bill your life is just a walking distress token. How can someone be happy in that situation?
 

YoshiSato

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I voted for the 500k/year.

I am suprized to find that the results are almost 50/50 (84 for number 1 86 for number 2)
 

etalns

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Originally posted by: YoshiSato
I voted for the 500k/year.

I am suprized to find that the results are almost 50/50 (84 for number 1 86 for number 2)

Likewise.
 

etalns

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Dec 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
a cashier at walmart is not making 30k a year

Let's just assume they make that much :p. Otherwise it's pretty much impossible to raise those pesky little money-sucking bastards known as kids.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
a cashier at walmart is not making 30k a year

Let's just assume they make that much :p. Otherwise it's pretty much impossible to raise those pesky little money-sucking bastards known as kids.

How would you know?
 

Atomicus

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This threads reminds me of The Family Man

*queue scene of Cage watching vid of him singing La la Means I love you to Tea Leoni* :heart:
 
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Originally posted by: Qosis
If you had to make the decision between having either of the following:

1) Great career, ($500k+ salary/year). No long-term relationship, working long hours regularly.
2) Very bad career (Cashier at Wal-Mart, $30k salary/year). Have a long-term relationship with someone who truly cares about you, and kids! Don't need to work long hours.

Which would you choose? ;)

Personally, I think I would choose number 1.

(10 for 5 years then retirment, jsut like most wall street theifs, I mean good people.
 

etalns

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
a cashier at walmart is not making 30k a year

Let's just assume they make that much :p. Otherwise it's pretty much impossible to raise those pesky little money-sucking bastards known as kids.

How would you know?


Sorry, I meant to say raising children without impoverished conditions.

If a crack whore raises a baby, does it mean that crack whores in general are fit to be parents? Nope.

Growing up in a low income home fosters hopelessness, and that is one of the greatest banes to being successful in life.
 

Chaotic42

Lifer
Jun 15, 2001
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I wish I made $30K/yr...

Anyway, I'd take #1. If I have lots of free time, I get crazy, so I need something to do. I don't want kids, so the choice is #1.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
a cashier at walmart is not making 30k a year

Let's just assume they make that much :p. Otherwise it's pretty much impossible to raise those pesky little money-sucking bastards known as kids.

How would you know?


Sorry, I meant to say raising children without impoverished conditions.

If a crack whore raises a baby, does it mean that crack whores in general are fit to be parents? Nope.

Growing up in a low income home fosters hopelessness, and that is one of the greatest banes to being successful in life.

So you're saying that $29k per year is impoverished? $20k is impoverished? Money isn't required to live life and it isn't required to raise children properly. The only people who think it is are the shallow, selfish rich folk who can't live without it. They're too busy filling their empty life with extravegant things because they, themselves, are empty shells of a human being.

You have no idea what "impoverished" is -or what it's like to live "impoverished" for long periods of time, for that matter. Your parents are rich and they spoil you rotten (which is exactly what you've become: empty and rotten) and you're too busy showing pictures of your house all over the forums to give up your money and live "impoverished" to see what it's like. Don't flatter yourself, everybody here knows that you have money and like to flaunt it. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and either STFU or put your money where your mouth is. Don't give me that bullshit about how your parents almost lost everything, either. The HAD something to lose and didn't lose it.

The only people who think impoverished homes are hopeless are the rich people who wouldn't know what to do in that situation to make the best out of it.
 

TheShiz

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Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
a cashier at walmart is not making 30k a year

Let's just assume they make that much :p. Otherwise it's pretty much impossible to raise those pesky little money-sucking bastards known as kids.

How would you know?


Sorry, I meant to say raising children without impoverished conditions.

If a crack whore raises a baby, does it mean that crack whores in general are fit to be parents? Nope.

Growing up in a low income home fosters hopelessness, and that is one of the greatest banes to being successful in life.

intelligence is the greatest bane, but I wish you luck nonetheless.
 

etalns

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Dec 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
a cashier at walmart is not making 30k a year

Let's just assume they make that much :p. Otherwise it's pretty much impossible to raise those pesky little money-sucking bastards known as kids.

How would you know?


Sorry, I meant to say raising children without impoverished conditions.

If a crack whore raises a baby, does it mean that crack whores in general are fit to be parents? Nope.

Growing up in a low income home fosters hopelessness, and that is one of the greatest banes to being successful in life.

So you're saying that $29k per year is impoverished? $20k is impoverished? Money isn't required to live life and it isn't required to raise children properly. The only people who think it is are the shallow, selfish rich folk who can't live without it. They're too busy filling their empty life with extravegant things because they, themselves, are empty shells of a human being.

You have no idea what "impoverished" is -or what it's like to live "impoverished" for long periods of time, for that matter. Your parents are rich and they spoil you rotten (which is exactly what you've become: empty and rotten) and you're too busy showing pictures of your house all over the forums to give up your money and live "impoverished" to see what it's like. Don't flatter yourself, everybody here knows that you have money and like to flaunt it. Do yourself and everyone else a favor and either STFU or put your money where your mouth is. Don't give me that bullshit about how your parents almost lost everything, either. The HAD something to lose and didn't lose it.

Well, I wasn't going to be mean... but you brought it upon yourself.

You are a prime example of what impoverished conditions do to people. You were celebrating getting an $8 an hour job. It's easy to see you truly lack intelligence. You actually hold resentment towards people who are wealthy. You group them all as empty people, but you would jump on the opportunity for salvation from your utterly horrid life. You live with your mother at how old? It's pathetic. You will go nowhere in life, and you won't achieve anything substantial in your life. I'd chalk a lot of it up to you being raised poorly, but I think at least some of it has to come from within.

My family is wealthy because they worked for it. You are not wealthy, nor is your family, because you didn't. You get upset at business owners for taking home a much bigger paycheck than you. Well, they deserve that bigger paycheck. People like you can't do what they do, it requires intelligence and motivation.

It would be silly for me to give up my money and see what "impoverished" conditions are like. It's easy to see what effects impoverishment has on children, and their potential, from an outside view.

You don't realize the importance of money. It allows you to do things in life that you enjoy. It allows you to truly experience life. You can take time off, and travel. Or have enough money to raise your children in a way so they can pursue their dreams. You can help your kids live a life where they don't work a pathetic $8/hour job.

I'm sorry Nik. Your attempts to convince me that money isn't needed for a good upbringing have swayed me in the opposite direction.
 

etalns

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Dec 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: TheShiz
Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Qosis
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
a cashier at walmart is not making 30k a year

Let's just assume they make that much :p. Otherwise it's pretty much impossible to raise those pesky little money-sucking bastards known as kids.

How would you know?


Sorry, I meant to say raising children without impoverished conditions.

If a crack whore raises a baby, does it mean that crack whores in general are fit to be parents? Nope.

Growing up in a low income home fosters hopelessness, and that is one of the greatest banes to being successful in life.

intelligence is the greatest bane, but I wish you luck nonetheless.

Intelligence is? or a lack of it?