If UPS and the Pizza Delivery Guy can make it, why not Garbage trucks?

[Nik]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
No...bad business decisions are what brought GM down...and unions are still in need today, just as they were 100 years ago.

Bad business decisions, like continuing to use (or continuing to need) a union.

I will never join a union.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: BoomerD
They know the OP is a union hating bastard and they've decided, "Fuck him, let him haul his own garbage!"

Says the union lover.

Indeed I am...Best thing that ever happened to the working people in the USA.

If you don't like Unions and what they've done for the Working Class in this country, imagine wht it would be like working 7 days a week.
That's right... Saturday and Sunday ( as "non work " days) are brought to you by UNIONS.

You goddamned kids , think you know everything, you don't know shit.

We used to need unions. We don't anymore. In fact, the UAW is what brought GM down. Unions need to be kicked to the curb.

No...bad business decisions are what brought GM down...and unions are still in need today, just as they were 100 years ago.

More now than ever in the last 50 years. Companies are welching on their labor contracts left and right, underfunding promised retirement benefits, cutting back on wages and healthcare benefits, outsourcing, moving overseas. Workers need to get organized to go buy their own politicians to fight back against the globalist jihad.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: BoomerD
No...bad business decisions are what brought GM down...and unions are still in need today, just as they were 100 years ago.

Bad business decisions, like continuing to use (or continuing to need) a union.

I will never join a union.

The greatest conservative triumph of the last three decades has been to convince the working class to adopt an ideology that is in direct conflict with the self interests of the workers.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: BoomerD
They know the OP is a union hating bastard and they've decided, "Fuck him, let him haul his own garbage!"

Says the union lover.

Indeed I am...Best thing that ever happened to the working people in the USA.

If you don't like Unions and what they've done for the Working Class in this country, imagine wht it would be like working 7 days a week.
That's right... Saturday and Sunday ( as "non work " days) are brought to you by UNIONS.

You goddamned kids , think you know everything, you don't know shit.

We used to need unions. We don't anymore. In fact, the UAW is what brought GM down. Unions need to be kicked to the curb.

No...bad business decisions are what brought GM down...and unions are still in need today, just as they were 100 years ago.

More now than ever in the last 50 years. Companies are welching on their labor contracts left and right, underfunding promised retirement benefits, cutting back on wages and healthcare benefits, outsourcing, moving overseas. Workers need to get organized to go buy their own politicians to fight back against the globalist jihad.

It's amazes me how people will so willingly go against what is best for them. I wonder how many people who hate unions now have high deductible health insurance with an HSA pumped full of their money?

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: Nik
UPS wouldn't even come down my road. My Secret Santa gift came when the UPS driver parked at the end of my street and walked his ass 2 blocks to my house I saw him walking away and found the package on my porch later. I shoulda tipped the guy.

Anyhow, the garbage truck got stuck in front of my house in the snow and ice on Friday. It took him 10 minutes to turn around and get out and that was with chains.

That is what's holding up garbage service, not unions but safety and practicality.
A UPS delivery truck weighs in at 12,000lbs.
A single axle garbage truck is 28,000 to 32,000lbs, and they get stuck. They hit poorly parked cars, slide across intersections, and are a PITA to drive. I speak from truck driving experience.
My company parks the trucks whenever possible in these conditions.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: BoomerD
No...bad business decisions are what brought GM down...and unions are still in need today, just as they were 100 years ago.

Bad business decisions, like continuing to use (or continuing to need) a union.

I will never join a union.

The greatest conservative triumph of the last three decades has been to convince the working class to adopt an ideology that is in direct conflict with the self interests of the workers.

Why should I pay union dues when I don't even get all of my money back when I retire? Why can't I just keep that money and put it in a savings account?

I'd like to know what's so great and awesome about unions. All they ever seem to do is bitch and strike.

Excuse me, but I'd rather just go to work and take home all of my pay.

 

[rh71]

do they really need you to put garbage on the curb (grass)? Can you put it on the street (very few cars park out on streets here) or even on the sidewalk? I hate putting it on the grass because my garbage bin has wheels on one half and is flat on the other half... so it's not exactly sturdy. I don't want it to fall over on the unstable grass. The wind can be quite vindictive.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Strk
It's amazes me how people will so willingly go against what is best for them. I wonder how many people who hate unions now have high deductible health insurance with an HSA pumped full of their money?

So unions are single-handedly responsible for keeping my health insurance higher because I don't belong to a union? I thought health insurance pricing is based on the cost to get drugs to market and the cost to cover the outrageous medical malpractice insurance that docs have to pay and things like that.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: rh71
do they really need you to put garbage on the curb (grass)? Can you put it on the street (very few cars park out on streets here) or even on the sidewalk? I hate putting it on the grass because my garbage bin has wheels on one half and is flat on the other half... so it's not exactly sturdy. I don't want it to fall over on the unstable grass. The wind can be quite vindictive.

Heaven forbid they get their asses out of the truck to right a tipped over garbage can, either. If it's not in the right spot on the right day in the right position, they don't pick it up. Such nonsense. :roll: I have a yard-clipping bin full of leaves that the garbage people haven't picked up in 1.5 months. I call and bitch, they still don't bother to pick it up. The garbage bill isn't cheap and they won't even make an effort.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Strk
It's amazes me how people will so willingly go against what is best for them. I wonder how many people who hate unions now have high deductible health insurance with an HSA pumped full of their money?

So unions are single-handedly responsible for keeping my health insurance higher because I don't belong to a union? I thought health insurance pricing is based on the cost to get drugs to market and the cost to cover the outrageous medical malpractice insurance that docs have to pay and things like that.

You said unions are useless (well, your word is unneeded, but whatever). What do you pay for your benefits (not just health insurance) and what are they? How much of your money do you have to spend to go to the doctor?

And what's causing the massive costs in health insurance would be a topic for another thread.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Strk
And what's causing the massive costs in health insurance would be a topic for another thread.

Then why did you bring it up

Come on Starkybaby, lets argue :lips:

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Strk
And what's causing the massive costs in health insurance would be a topic for another thread.

Then why did you bring it up

Come on Starkybaby, lets argue :lips:

I brought up how companies are screwing people out of basic coverage by providing lousy benefits.

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: eternalone
Garbage workers most unappreciated yet one of the most important jobs in society, bless them.

Why is their job one of the "most important"? Many areas (particularly rural) don't have garbage pickup. The residents in those areas simply haul their trash to the landfill or to transfer stations. They get along just fine without garbage pickup.

 

[rbV5]

You know, you have one job. Your job is to collect the garbage. You don't have to innovote, you don't have to modernize and you don't even have to be creative.

Garbage collection has been modernized here in the Portland Metro area. We now have decent collection of recyclables that have reduced our garbage disposal tremendously, and modern collection vehicles that raise the cans and dump them.

The trucks can't get to the garbage cans due to huge piles of snow next to the curbs on residential streets here. Have you considered there is a "practical" reason garbage hasn't been collected. Our service is generally excellent, and our guys do a damn fine job of dealing with our garbage. I'll patiently wait until they can return to regular collections

How about taking your own damn garbage to the transfer station you lazy fsck?

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: eternalone
Garbage workers most unappreciated yet one of the most important jobs in society, bless them.

Why is their job one of the "most important"? Many areas (particularly rural) don't have garbage pickup. The residents in those areas simply haul their trash to the landfill or to transfer stations. They get along just fine without garbage pickup.

So you are saying that we don't need any Mods?

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: Nik
We used to need unions. We don't anymore. In fact, the UAW is what brought GM down. Unions need to be kicked to the curb.

You're confusing long term business and product decisions made by management with the costs associted for the labor needed to enact those "plans".

And until CEO compensation is based on performance, and personal accountability not invisibility is the norm, rather than the exception in the same manner as the rest of the workforce, UNIONs are the only entity to stand against monolithic Corporate excess of Power and Capitol.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: DrPizza

Originally posted by: eternalone
Garbage workers most unappreciated yet one of the most important jobs in society, bless them.

Why is their job one of the "most important"? Many areas (particularly rural) don't have garbage pickup. The residents in those areas simply haul their trash to the landfill or to transfer stations. They get along just fine without garbage pickup.

If Prostitution is the "Wolrd's Oldest Profession", then Garbage Collection has got to be the Second Oldest.

You cannot eliminate either one without disrupting what it is to be human in a city / town environment.

I don't believe it's sociologically possible.

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
Uh.. you do realize that UPS and USPS are unionized, right?

...and that unions don't make the call to work or not......

Good to see ignorance is alive and well.

 

[gorcorps]

Sounds like your Pizza Hut is a pretty rare case IMO. None of the pizza guys around here deliver if the weather is bad at all. The mail guys have to be there if they can because so much of the mail is time dependent.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: BoomerD
No...bad business decisions are what brought GM down...and unions are still in need today, just as they were 100 years ago.

Bad business decisions, like continuing to use (or continuing to need) a union.

I will never join a union.

The greatest conservative triumph of the last three decades has been to convince the working class to adopt an ideology that is in direct conflict with the self interests of the workers.

Why should I pay union dues when I don't even get all of my money back when I retire? Why can't I just keep that money and put it in a savings account?

I'd like to know what's so great and awesome about unions. All they ever seem to do is bitch and strike.

Excuse me, but I'd rather just go to work and take home all of my pay.

A good comparison is in the local construction industry.

Union equipment operators make about $30/hr with EXCELLENT benefits.
They get the job done right, usually UNDER budget, and under schedule.

The NON-union equipment operators make $15-$18/hour with NO (or few) benefits, and their companies have lots of "re-do's" and are rarely under budget OR underschedule because of all the fuck-ups...yet their companies bill the same $$ per man-hour that the union companies do.

My union dues are about $60/month...the difference between union wages and non-union wages is called non-union dues...($12/hr * 40 * 4.3 wks/mo = 2064/month)

I would really hate for my friends to know I can't add...

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: Nik
We used to need unions. We don't anymore. In fact, the UAW is what brought GM down. Unions need to be kicked to the curb.

You're confusing long term business and product decisions made by management with the costs associted for the labor needed to enact those "plans".

And until CEO compensation is based on performance, and personal accountability not invisibility is the norm, rather than the exception in the same manner as the rest of the workforce, UNIONs are the only entity to stand against monolithic Corporate excess of Power and Capitol.

If they wouldn't have employed the union, paying people $30/hr to work in a factory stamping out shitty overpriced gas guzzling pieces of garbage, maybe they wouldn't be in the situation they're in.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: BoomerD
They know the OP is a union hating bastard and they've decided, "Fuck him, let him haul his own garbage!"

Says the union lover.

Indeed I am...Best thing that ever happened to the working people in the USA.

If you don't like Unions and what they've done for the Working Class in this country, imagine wht it would be like working 7 days a week.
That's right... Saturday and Sunday ( as "non work " days) are brought to you by UNIONS.

You goddamned kids , think you know everything, you don't know shit.

We used to need unions. We don't anymore. In fact, the UAW is what brought GM down. Unions need to be kicked to the curb.

yes, because they would never try to return to poor working practices. companies are too honorable to do that!

:roll:

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: BoomerD
They know the OP is a union hating bastard and they've decided, "Fuck him, let him haul his own garbage!"

Says the union lover.

Indeed I am...Best thing that ever happened to the working people in the USA.

If you don't like Unions and what they've done for the Working Class in this country, imagine wht it would be like working 7 days a week.
That's right... Saturday and Sunday ( as "non work " days) are brought to you by UNIONS.

You goddamned kids , think you know everything, you don't know shit.

We used to need unions. We don't anymore. In fact, the UAW is what brought GM down. Unions need to be kicked to the curb.

yes, because they would never try to return to poor working practices. companies are too honorable to do that!

:roll:

If you want to work in shitty conditions for shit pay, you go right ahead. Everyone else will go find better jobs. kthnxbai.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: BoomerD
They know the OP is a union hating bastard and they've decided, "Fuck him, let him haul his own garbage!"

Says the union lover.

Indeed I am...Best thing that ever happened to the working people in the USA.

If you don't like Unions and what they've done for the Working Class in this country, imagine wht it would be like working 7 days a week.
That's right... Saturday and Sunday ( as "non work " days) are brought to you by UNIONS.

You goddamned kids , think you know everything, you don't know shit.

We used to need unions. We don't anymore. In fact, the UAW is what brought GM down. Unions need to be kicked to the curb.

yes, because they would never try to return to poor working practices. companies are too honorable to do that!

:roll:

If you want to work in shitty conditions for shit pay, you go right ahead. Everyone else will go find better jobs. kthnxbai.

yeah, it's just that simple. really. because after 20 years I'm sure working standards wouldn't have deteriorated across the board.

:roll:

 

[rbV5]

As I suspected, the OP lives in Seattle which has had challenging weather conditions. (of course the OP doesn't mention the record snowfall, or the fact he is in Seattle)

The weather is to blame, not the Unions asshole. Link