Not true at least in Jersey. I have gotten pulled over going over 70 in a 45mph zone. I just got a hefty ticket.
Don't get me started on rubber-neckers. I don't even glance at a wreck unless it's in the road and I have to watch out for emergency crews. My favorite is when some dork gets pulled over for speeding and stops in the lane or on the shoulder instead of pulling into a parking lot or neighborhood. They put the officer into a more dangerous situation and slow traffic. They should get an additional ticket for being an idiot.
I always make sure and find a safe spot for the officer, so as to avoid pissing him off by getting him nearly hit....although I haven't been pulled over in YEARS (amazing how not speeding/paying attention/turning off my cell phone causes that)
i was going to post a biting, sarcastic reply.. then i realized it was a jlgatsby thread. please dont respond to his threads except only to say hes a moron
Thank you!
Who is more of a hazard? The old man in the big white Buick driving 10MPH under the speed limit in the left lane or the people who are passing him in the center lane? I'm voting for the former.
Brilliant plan OP! But I think it can improve. If a $1,000 fine stops people from speeding most of the time, a death penalty for speeding would definately mean they never went over the limit. Let's do it how they do in Saudi Arabia, too, and get a guy with a big sword to chop their heads off.
With my idea I expect nobody would be going 5mph over the limit.
With my idea I expect nobody would be going 5mph over the limit.
I don't support such an extreme, but I don't think anyone would doubt that it stops crime. The threat of punishment stops crime. That's been proven.
You often end up paying that much more in insurance rates over a period of time from getting a ticket anyhow, so not sure that it'd change anything.
except we are an immediate society. Look at where we are with credit. It used to be that you didn't buy anything on credit...then it was you only got a mortgage...then it was mortgage and a car loan. Today, you can finance nearly everything, furniture, tires, tools, etc. With a CC, you can even finance groceries. Ever wonder how much that stuff REALLY costs after financing?
I think the speed limits are too low to begin with and I'm not convinced that they are set to reasonable values. If anything, I think it's a scam for police to make money and aren't based on numbers for driver safety.
I once got pulled over for speeding ...
Cop: I clocked you doing 70 mph. Do you know what the speed limit is?
Me: No
Cop: It's 55
Me: It should be 70.
Surprisingly, I didn't get a ticket
I don't think the cop was expecting that answer. Anyway, the speed limit should just be something around 80. My car doesn't feel comfortable moving much faster than that, so if they did set the speed limit there, it would be very unlikely that I would violate it.
I once got pulled over for speeding ...
Cop: I clocked you doing 70 mph. Do you know what the speed limit is?
Me: No
Cop: It's 55
Me: It should be 70.
Surprisingly, I didn't get a ticket
I don't think the cop was expecting that answer. Anyway, the speed limit should just be something around 80. My car doesn't feel comfortable moving much faster than that, so if they did set the speed limit there, it would be very unlikely that I would violate it.i think your theory is flawed on many levels.
Living in NJ i particularly see speeding as a problem, but raising the fine isn't going to do anything about it. Most people won't have the money to pay the tickets. It'll just lead to courts being backed up prosecuting those who didn't pay their tickets, money being wasted tracking down those who don't pay, and money wasted holding these people in contempt at a jail for not paying tickets. Thus only ending up costing the state more. Not to mention since your theory would be to rid of the need for several cops, you'll have only accomplished putting more hard working people out of a job.
what you're referring to is moral hazard. people are less likely to do something if they have a risk of something negative happening. I think a lot more needs to be dealt with that was mentioned above (people fighting with passengers in their car while driving, drinking something, putting makeup on.) before going after people for doing what, a mere 5mph over the speed limit? I've seen countless people hardly focusing on the road while they drive with their knees while text messaging on their phone. I can see how something should be done about people doing 100 in a 55, however doing 75 or so on a major highway like an interstate or parkway where for god knows what reason the speed limit is only 55mph... it would just be stupid.
Living in NJ i particularly see speeding as a problem, but raising the fine isn't going to do anything about it. Most people won't have the money to pay the tickets. It'll just lead to courts being backed up prosecuting those who didn't pay their tickets, money being wasted tracking down those who don't pay, and money wasted holding these people in contempt at a jail for not paying tickets. Thus only ending up costing the state more. Not to mention since your theory would be to rid of the need for several cops, you'll have only accomplished putting more hard working people out of a job.
what you're referring to is moral hazard. people are less likely to do something if they have a risk of something negative happening. I think a lot more needs to be dealt with that was mentioned above (people fighting with passengers in their car while driving, drinking something, putting makeup on.) before going after people for doing what, a mere 5mph over the speed limit? I've seen countless people hardly focusing on the road while they drive with their knees while text messaging on their phone. I can see how something should be done about people doing 100 in a 55, however doing 75 or so on a major highway like an interstate or parkway where for god knows what reason the speed limit is only 55mph... it would just be stupid.
Originally posted by: 3NF
I think the speed limits are too low to begin with and I'm not convinced that they are set to reasonable values. If anything, I think it's a scam for police to make money and aren't based on numbers for driver safety.
I once got pulled over for speeding ...
Cop: I clocked you doing 70 mph. Do you know what the speed limit is?
Me: No
Cop: It's 55
Me: It should be 70.
Surprisingly, I didn't get a ticket
there are reasons that you may not know about...
the highway by my house is set to 65...during the day, I'll do 65. When it starts getting dusk/night I slow down to 50 or 55 (and get tailgated). That stretch of about 6 miles has 3 major deer crossing zones, and there is almost alway a new dead deer every day in the wintertime. Tell me that doing 80, at night, you can see a pack of deer, weave the pack (deer are too dumb to wait to cross, and move in packs usually) or stop quickly enough. I'll call shens on that (I know, I've hit 6 deer in my life living in rural areas). Perhaps that place ends up with standing water at times, or there is wildlife, or through traffic has a blind spot. No matter what, speed isn't usually just set below where it should be for making money.
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: 3NF
I think the speed limits are too low to begin with and I'm not convinced that they are set to reasonable values. If anything, I think it's a scam for police to make money and aren't based on numbers for driver safety.
I once got pulled over for speeding ...
Cop: I clocked you doing 70 mph. Do you know what the speed limit is?
Me: No
Cop: It's 55
Me: It should be 70.
Surprisingly, I didn't get a ticket
there are reasons that you may not know about...
the highway by my house is set to 65...during the day, I'll do 65. When it starts getting dusk/night I slow down to 50 or 55 (and get tailgated). That stretch of about 6 miles has 3 major deer crossing zones, and there is almost alway a new dead deer every day in the wintertime. Tell me that doing 80, at night, you can see a pack of deer, weave the pack (deer are too dumb to wait to cross, and move in packs usually) or stop quickly enough. I'll call shens on that (I know, I've hit 6 deer in my life living in rural areas). Perhaps that place ends up with standing water at times, or there is wildlife, or through traffic has a blind spot. No matter what, speed isn't usually just set below where it should be for making money.
I don't drive 80 at night, but I certainly don't do 50 either.
You're right, I'm sure I don't know all the reasons that go into determining the speed limit. Please tell me. But I'm not convinced either that it's determined for safety reasons. Someone is making money from it somewhere.
Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: nweaver
Originally posted by: 3NF
I think the speed limits are too low to begin with and I'm not convinced that they are set to reasonable values. If anything, I think it's a scam for police to make money and aren't based on numbers for driver safety.
I once got pulled over for speeding ...
Cop: I clocked you doing 70 mph. Do you know what the speed limit is?
Me: No
Cop: It's 55
Me: It should be 70.
Surprisingly, I didn't get a ticket
there are reasons that you may not know about...
the highway by my house is set to 65...during the day, I'll do 65. When it starts getting dusk/night I slow down to 50 or 55 (and get tailgated). That stretch of about 6 miles has 3 major deer crossing zones, and there is almost alway a new dead deer every day in the wintertime. Tell me that doing 80, at night, you can see a pack of deer, weave the pack (deer are too dumb to wait to cross, and move in packs usually) or stop quickly enough. I'll call shens on that (I know, I've hit 6 deer in my life living in rural areas). Perhaps that place ends up with standing water at times, or there is wildlife, or through traffic has a blind spot. No matter what, speed isn't usually just set below where it should be for making money.
I don't drive 80 at night, but I certainly don't do 50 either.
You're right, I'm sure I don't know all the reasons that go into determining the speed limit. Please tell me. But I'm not convinced either that it's determined for safety reasons. Someone is making money from it somewhere.
If the police stations were making money from it, then they wouldn't need supplemental budgets from county/city/state etc
I see deer almost every other night/morning on my commute. One of those guys at ~45 (I had been doing about 60, slammed on the brakes) totalled my older Buick Park Ave, and gave me a nice airbag in the face. Has a tendency to slow you down a bit.
No deer on my commute.
The police stations, like any business, will try to make money anyway it can. Those people and the fire department must call me 10 times a year asking for a donation! I don't know what the hell to do with all these stickers now ...
Cops would rather hunt down the working man than the drug dealers no matter what the fines. It's easier and less dangerous!
Originally posted by: Maluno
Seems logical to me!
lets pay you what a cop makes, and see how willing you are to put your life on the line all the time.
Im not wasting time reading this thread. All I'm gonna say is that you should never, ever, be a lawmaker.
lol. Ok, so maybe I'm exaggerating. I think I was honked at once while driving the speed limit through a long construction zone (hwy 192 between Melbourne and Orlando). I've been in the car with enough people to know what's said about a driver doing the speed limit.
That's beside the point. I want to do the speed limit. It's not worth a ticket, my life, the life of a pedestrian, or my desire to save 30 seconds on a trip to speed. Sure, I feel like I can speed and still be a safe driver, but I just think there isn't a need.
If all of you are so upset about these "arbitrary and unfair" speed limits, contact your local DPW/DOT official, politician, priest, rabbi, indian healer and voodoo witch doctor and voice your complaint/opinion.
I know everyone here is a badass mofo that smokes pot and drives 100 MPH while drinkin' a 40 and jamming "Fvck the Police"...but show some love for the 70 mph interstate homies.
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