initially, I said yes to the question at hand. The more I see this come back to the front page and think about it, I would just try harder not to get caught.
Aikouka
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First I started reading this (my first post by this author) and I wondered why there was so much flak at first... but then after reading through FIVE pages (at 50 ppp) of this garbage, I see why.
You will never deter without 100% guarantee, and even then, you still will not deter those that do/will not care.
I'm a speeder, I do it every day on every single road. I usually don't speed much at night... maybe 5-10 over at the most, but there's really something that you're forgetting that other people in here have mentioned. It isn't speeding that causes the problems. That's like saying guns kill people! A car is a device that when used improperly, can cause great harm, just like a gun.
So what's the difference? You're being swayed by people who are guilty of wreckless driving! Wreckless driving includes but is most certainly not limited to speeding, tailgating, racing, changing lanes improperly (no signal, weaving, etc). I may speed, but I still do my best to take the safety of those around me, and even myself into account. People who do not are the problem that you wish to solve.
Then, that's not all... what about unsafe vehicles? I would much rather be in a fully functional car with a decent driver going 90 on the highway than in a car with bad windshield wipers, broken struts and worn-out brakes doing 55 on the highway. You're just asking to have an accident and possibly cause unnecessary death in the second vehicle, it is unsafe where the first car could quite possibly be a lot safer.
Also, in your example of the deer jumping out in front and being unable to stop. A cop would not ticket you for driving too fast in that example (obviously since there's no proof, you're kind of stopped), but you would be ticketed for following too closely. Tailgating is not the same as speeding.
You will never deter without 100% guarantee, and even then, you still will not deter those that do/will not care.
I'm a speeder, I do it every day on every single road. I usually don't speed much at night... maybe 5-10 over at the most, but there's really something that you're forgetting that other people in here have mentioned. It isn't speeding that causes the problems. That's like saying guns kill people! A car is a device that when used improperly, can cause great harm, just like a gun.
So what's the difference? You're being swayed by people who are guilty of wreckless driving! Wreckless driving includes but is most certainly not limited to speeding, tailgating, racing, changing lanes improperly (no signal, weaving, etc). I may speed, but I still do my best to take the safety of those around me, and even myself into account. People who do not are the problem that you wish to solve.
Then, that's not all... what about unsafe vehicles? I would much rather be in a fully functional car with a decent driver going 90 on the highway than in a car with bad windshield wipers, broken struts and worn-out brakes doing 55 on the highway. You're just asking to have an accident and possibly cause unnecessary death in the second vehicle, it is unsafe where the first car could quite possibly be a lot safer.
Also, in your example of the deer jumping out in front and being unable to stop. A cop would not ticket you for driving too fast in that example (obviously since there's no proof, you're kind of stopped), but you would be ticketed for following too closely. Tailgating is not the same as speeding.
no it would not reduce the number of speeders it would reduce the # of speeders able to pay their tickets. I've heard of people getting caught 3x in one week. $3000.00 in fines is aneough to bankrupt most people in this country.
DivideBYZero
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I tried to resist posting in 2007's Most Moronic Thread?, but the idea that 20Mph, on a cell phone, on the Interstate, is safer than 20 Mph over pretty much proves you should sell your brain for Pet Food use.
zinfamous
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I think it's $5/liter. at least it was ~6 years ago (that would make it ~$22 per gallon)....But you're right...it probably won't do much to the speed (and you probably mean 80-100km/hr). People fly there, but I wouldn't say the average speed is 80mph.
Actually, I'm more interested in getting people off the road. far less people drive in Europe and are more willing to use public transportation. It's also an issue of too little space to really accomodate everyone with a car...still, the gas prices have been a good incentive to keep people using public transportation, or at least use a 60 mpg scooter over a 25mpg sedan....
DivideBYZero
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Well, I live and drive in Europe and I say the average IS more like 80mph. The cost of gas is $1.60 per litre vs. 30c. US gal is 3.8 litres IRC and UK gal is 4.4.
After just covering 1200 miles in south Florida I say keep the limit at 40Mph on highways(I am joking, to a degree...). The tailgating, squirting into gaps of one car length or less and squirming through all 5 lanes at 90Mph+ is so dangerous most (Floridian) drivers should not be trusted at higher speeds. One driver just lost concentration and went into the steel barrier on the right. We were all doing 45 in steady traffic at the time. :roll:
Regradless. Increasing gas prices will not decrease asshats, if anything it will leave only the asshats on the road.
DivideBYZero
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Originally posted by: jdini76
Regradless. Increasing gas prices will not decrease asshats, if anything it will leave only the asshats on the road.
This is not going to be a popular opinion, but the average driving standard in most of Europe is higher than the US.
/flame suit on
people would still speed. Also more people might fight their ticket especially if cops just pull people over to hit their "performance goals."
Interestting idea, but its incredibly economically inefficient. I would rather see special roads constructed for high speed drivers and have the government/insurance companies charge a premium to use them. That way high speed drivers get where they want quicker (albeit more dangerously), and they bear the brunt of the risks associated with their fast driving.
Of course not. He's just looking for attention. He got it and he's moved on now. Typical JLGatsby behavior. This thread and 'idea' are both ignorant, like him.
Scarpozzi
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I vote that we do the opposite. I feel that cars on the road generally drive too slow. We need to abolish these petty speeding fines and make a law that states the following: "If you can hit the car in front of you, you get to keep it." That way, people will have a reason to move their wrinikled asses off the road and get out of my way.
Aikouka
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You know what they need to do?
Ban S.M.V.'s from the road during peak work travel times. What's an SMV you ask? Slow Moving Vehicle or a vehicle that cannot achieve proper posted speeds because of the way it was designed. The biggest perpetrator of this is DUMP TRUCKS. They are constantly on the road when I go to work and are horrid with their traveling at least 10mph below the speed limit.
Also, any car that takes 3 miles to go from 0 to 50 in a 55 mph posted zone should just go straight to hell... sorry, a bit angry today after running into such a thing during my typical commute :|.
Ban S.M.V.'s from the road during peak work travel times. What's an SMV you ask? Slow Moving Vehicle or a vehicle that cannot achieve proper posted speeds because of the way it was designed. The biggest perpetrator of this is DUMP TRUCKS. They are constantly on the road when I go to work and are horrid with their traveling at least 10mph below the speed limit.
Also, any car that takes 3 miles to go from 0 to 50 in a 55 mph posted zone should just go straight to hell... sorry, a bit angry today after running into such a thing during my typical commute :|.
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