If there were a minimum $1,000 fine for speeders...

[crownjules]

Fact: You have not backed up one supposed fact you have posted.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Try driving 55mph on the highway and the guy in front of you slams on his breaks because a deer jumps in front of him or he stops or swerves to avoid some debris on the road, and see what happens.

I'll stop fast enough avoid it. Fact. At 90mph, most cars cannot.

No, you would not. The vast majority of the time people drive too closely together to avoid an accident. Now, when a person is driving at 90+mph, they tend to be more aware of their situation and more careful, so they would be much, much less likely to be too close to the vehicle in front of them.

 

[Insane3D]

It's very interesting that a lot of people here seem to think punishment is the answer to everything.

Hey, here's an idea...how about we follow the same idea as the German's do with the autobahn. You have lanes that are for faster travel, and to do so, you need a different license that requires training similar to what police get in things like high speed maneuvering and braking, as well as having another level of inspection for the cars that are allowed to go faster...

I wouldn't want to be around someone in a 1989 Plymouth K car going 90ish...but in a modern sports car, that's nothing...

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: psydancerqt
"To stop speeders in residential areas, just put up stop signs."

so you're suggesting to put up stop signs wherever you feel like it??? and you think that's gonna stop people from speeding???

Fact: Stop signs stop people from speeding.

It stops me. Speed bumps don't stop me. Roundabouts don't stop me. Signs don't stop me. But stop means stop.

Fact fact fact.

 

[psydancerqt]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: psydancerqt
"To stop speeders in residential areas, just put up stop signs."

so you're suggesting to put up stop signs wherever you feel like it??? and you think that's gonna stop people from speeding???

Fact: Stop signs stop people from speeding.

It stops me. Speed bumps don't stop me. Roundabouts don't stop me. Signs don't stop me. But stop means stop.

Fact fact fact.

so i can put a stop sign out in front of my house and people will stop speeding???????

we should put a few stop signs on the expressway too.... since your facts say it will stop the speeding

 

[Insane3D]

Also, I love when people state their opinions as fact...

 

[SmoochyTX]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: her209
And btw, if you are serious about stopping speeders, put dips and bumps in the road.

That would be fun on I-10 at 65 mph!

It'd be fun to watch. :laugh:

Indeed! :thumbsup:

Imagine this, but at 65 MPH. Hilarity ensues.

I love it! Now my co-workers are wondering why the hell I'm laughing like a mad woman. :laugh:

 

[cubby1223]

What's that? Minimum $1000 fine for posting insane statements in ATOT?

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: psydancerqt
so i can put a stop sign out in front of my house and people will stop speeding???????

we should put a few stop signs on the expressway too.... since your facts say it will stop the speeding

You're creating unrealistic arguments to blur the truth. I'll quote the Barry Goldwater campaign, when I say:

JLGatsby: In your heart, you know he's right.

 

[psydancerqt]

well, there are tons of stop signs in my neighborhood and it doesn't stop people from speeding through. i'll bet half the people don't even come to a complete stop when they're "stopping" at the sign.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: psydancerqt
well, there are tons of stop signs in my neighborhood and it doesn't stop people from speeding through. i'll bet half the people don't even come to a complete stop when they're "stopping" at the sign.

They slow down don't they though?

THINK about it. If that stop sign wasn't there, would the overall speed increase or decrease?

If there is still speeding with a few signs, that means you need MORE signs. 4 ways signs on EVERY corner (Unless you live in suburbia where large stretches of road with no intersections exist).

 

[psydancerqt]

well, if they dont slow down, they will crash into the house across the street from them.... "T" intersection

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: psydancerqt
well, if they dont slow down, they will crash into the house across the street from them.... "T" intersection

But they STILL slow down don't they? Admit it, I'm right. Even if they don't stop completely, they're driving much slower than they would if there was not stop sign.

JLGatsby wins.

 

[SagaLore]

Want to solve the problem with speeding? Get rid of all cars. I think a day will come when our society really has to pursue this.

 

[psydancerqt]

nope, cuz like i said, they'd slow down regardless (with or without stop sign) cuz they have to turn... or they can crash into the house...

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Want to solve the problem with speeding? Get rid of all cars. I think a day will come when our society really has to pursue this.

Unrealistic. People need privacy.

One day cars will not be harmful to the environment and this will not be an issue.

 

[homercles337]

Originally posted by: Chadder007
This may blow some peoples mind too, but Speeding doesn't Kill!!!! What kills every time on the roads has been bad driving (with cell phone, putting on makeup, ignoring whats going on outside of the car) and drunk driving. Yet its Speeding that the cops go after.

You forgot sleeping. ~50% of highway fatalities are due to to some one falling asleep or drowsing at the wheel. I imagine another 45% is bad driving/stupidity/lack of experience and the other 5% might be alcohol related. But that 5% is inflated since "alcohol related" does not mean drunk driving. If you fall asleep, crash, and die in your car with a half-can of beer from a week proior its "alcohol related."

On topic: the OP is an idiot. Did we ever figure out his age? 13 or so?

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: psydancerqt
nope, cuz like i said, they'd slow down regardless (with or without stop sign) cuz they have to turn... or they can crash into the house...

You're still not thinking if you believe the stop sign has NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on the speed of the drivers.

They are slowing down for those stop signs and you know it. I can turn corners at 30/40 mph. But few people regularly blow through stop signs at 30/40mph.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: randomlinh
speed bumps slow me down. i like to save my suspension. also, speeding is not the problem, it's stupid drivers. no matter what speed you're going, you're going to have that idiot who just isn't paying attention and is on their phone screaming their heads off.. or some woman putting lipstick on while driving, or a bunch of teenagers yapping at each other nearly t-boning you.

That's true, but you know it's also safer to have that woman on the cell phone going 20mph rather than 50mph.

umm... you missed my point. I see this with people going the speed limit... on the highway.

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Want to solve the problem with speeding? Get rid of all cars. I think a day will come when our society really has to pursue this.

Unrealistic. People need privacy.

One day cars will not be harmful to the environment and this will not be an issue.

Mass transportation doesn't mean buses. You can still have private vehicles - they just won't be owned or driven by individuals.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: CVSiN
well im 35 so I'm older than most on this board..

and I still think your VERY wrong... the ONLY time your stats may be closer to right at least here.. is late night on friday and saturday nights when the street racers and youngins are out and about..
otherwise during normal hours there are far more working stiffs speeding around than teens and college kids that are Supposed to be in school.

You're stupid if you think there is no correlation between age and driving habits, especially speeding. Seriously.

No one will admit it because I'm JLGatsby, but everyone here agrees with me. Fact.

And your grammar sucks for a 35 year old.

There isnt... you know why?.. cause the older you get the more toys you can afford..
so its generally not the youngins with the fast cars anymore..
Now its you 30+ year olds with money to spend on Mustangs and Corvettes and BMWs etc..
not to mention most kiddies cant afford the insurance on even your base model Mustang GT... let alone a Cobra.. or z06

I belong to several car clubs here.. and let me tell you the average members are well over my age..(most seem in thier 40-60s) and well over my income level as well (generally 80-200k range). and they have no shame in lighting up thier tires or doing over 100 down the expressways..

and btw you and the other grammar police around can lick my sweaty sack. its a webboard for god sakes not a term paper.



if youre not gonna speed why buy a 300+ hp car... that goes for any kind.. there is no reason outside of trucks set up for towing to have that much HP...

 

[psydancerqt]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Want to solve the problem with speeding? Get rid of all cars. I think a day will come when our society really has to pursue this.

Unrealistic. People need privacy.

One day cars will not be harmful to the environment and this will not be an issue.

people need a car to have privacy??????? jeez, i thought that's what my bedroom was for

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Mass transportation doesn't mean buses. You can still have private vehicles - they just won't be owned or driven by individuals.

LOL Sorry, I don't trust Johnny Cab to keep all four wheels on the road. And the cost to implement would just probably be too much.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: psydancerqt
people need a car to have privacy??????? jeez, i thought that's what my bedroom was for

Dude seriously, go to New York and ride the subway at about 11pm with your kid (if you had one), and tell me there is no need for privacy.

You'll feel like you wish you had brought a gun for protection.

People need privacy and you cannot put mass numbers of people together too often because there simply too many weirdos out there.

 

[funboy6942]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: funboy42
I still cannot get out of my head your thinking all rich people are smart

Show me where I said ALL rich people are smart or STFU.

Come on I dare you, show me.

I'm sorry, I meant to put in there all rich people, who didn't inherit their money, are smart. I was rushing to get what was on my mind out.
Funny though you could not argue with anything else I said other then this :disgust:

But I am man enough to say I was wrong because at some point when you first started that topic within a few minute you edited out some things I didnt see when I was reading it the first time around:

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
If you exclude primary residence, how many Americans accumulate multi-millions in assets by their mid-50s? Why on Earth would you limit high elected office to a SLIVER of the US population? Why would you consider such a surrogate indicator of competence?

I'll give you some real stats.

As of right now 7% of all Americans have $1m or more in assets outside their primary residence.

Also, of those who are millionaires, 50% of them have never inherited a penny. 20% of them have inherited less than 10% of their net worth. Other 30% are inherited. So most earned it.

Am I implying that 93% of Americans are not fit to serve office? I don't think many would disagree with me. (Important: I'm not implying that all rich people are smart and all non-rich people are dumb, I'm only saying there a strong correlation between wealth and intelligence, but there are always exceptions. There are a lot of dumb rich people and intelligent non-rich people.) Most people know nothing about economics, the structure of the US government, foreign affairs, etc. I think I even read that most Americans don't even know who the Prime Minister of Great Britain is. How pathetic is that?

So you get a small thumbs up from me for going back and editing that bolded part in there. But at first when that thread started you came off as all people who are rich are smart and should be in office, and anyone who is poor is not smart enough to run or be in office. You tried to make the point that poor people wouldn't do as good of a job in office as the self made millionaire would because his millions made him smart, and knew more on how the world worked then the poor person ever would.

But thats now water under the bridge and I'm sorry I didn't go back and re-read the gibberish. But still hold firm that your logic on this one is also flawed as well for many reason you seem to not grasp.