ICE fires first shot.

[outriding]

Cruelty and terrorizing is the point.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldNewsHeadlines/comments/1qhl63v/ice_detains_elderly_man_in_freezing_cold_without

Oh it is soo much worse

BTC

Did a great job covering it

Note it is only the first few minutes of this video

It is one of the most upsetting things I have seen this admin has done so far

 

[Jaskalas]

It's just about peeling off your opposition and keeping them from digging in instead.

I carried a similar message in 2017, through 2020.
Jan 6th, 2021 changed my mind on where we stand. And the value of peeling off or digging in. The calculus changes when they are happy to declare elections, and Democracy, fake. When they are ready for blood. We cannot ignore that threat. A line has been crossed and neither of us (Our two factions) will allow civil discourse to be the solution.

 

[MrSquished]

ICE Is the current modern American Gestapo. Bunch of law breaking armed thugs. You don't fund the Gestapo by giving them a couple regulations you know they're going to break cuz they are indeed, the lawless gestapo. That's just empty symbolism and pathetic.

You try to ban the Gestapo. Really not sure what's so hard to understand about this concept.

 

[Jaskalas]

Regulations only exist until the next President.
The institution must be rooted out and dissolved, the way many others have been in the past year.
If, in 2033, a Republican takes office. There shouldn't even be a paper clip remaining of ICE for them to reassemble.

 

[Brainonska511]

I carried a similar message in 2017, through 2020.
Jan 6th, 2021 changed my mind on where we stand. And the value of peeling off or digging in. The calculus changes when they are happy to declare elections, and Democracy, fake. When they are ready for blood. We cannot ignore that threat. A line has been crossed and neither of us will allow civil discourse to be the solution.

Declaring democracy and voting fake is a sign of weakness and desperation. Trump carries big loser stink every time he talks about that stuff. You think popular people need to talk about discrediting popularity contests?

As for some of the other issues: there are just going to be lots of bad choices until political power changes, and there are multiple simultaneous negotiations going on in Congress across a variety of issues. Peeling off votes for select things buys time. Bogging ICE and CBP down in more training, limiting how their funds can be used, etc, until you can take a hammer to it means their people are spending more time doing non-enforcement things and their resources become a little more restricted. It isn't enough, but what are you going to do in the meantime? Talk about burning down a Walmart and then not burning down the Walmart? And then there are lots of squishy moderates who are not all fire and brimstone, so it's their on-ramp.

 

[MrSquished]

Regulations only exist until the next President.
The institution must be rooted out and dissolved, the way many others have been in the past year.
If, in 2033, a Republican takes office. There shouldn't even be a paper clip remaining of ICE for them to reassemble.

Exactly. You have to fight to abolish the gestapo. You may not get it but you hold up government funding for that and for healthcare subsidies.

Yeah let's give these guys better training, because the Trump administration is gonna just go ahead and listen to us. These guys:

https://www.reddit.com/r/oregon/comments/1qi7ogx/last_night_dhsice_in_portland_or_brutalized_and

 

[pete6032]

https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qj6il3/ice_kidnapped_an_entire_family_at_gunpoint_during

 

[MrSquished]

https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qj6il3/ice_kidnapped_an_entire_family_at_gunpoint_during

Sure let's negotiate with these people in good faith like they give a shit. You don't negotiate with Nazis. That's not existing in reality. This is what they'll continue to do.

 

[pete6032]

Sure let's negotiate with these people in good faith like they give a shit. You don't negotiate with Nazis. That's not existing in reality. This is what they'll continue to do.

Just curious what would you do in that situation if you were the mother?

 

[MrSquished]

Just curious what would you do in that situation if you were the mother?

I'm not criticizing any of the victims there so not sure what you are asking. That poor mother and those poor kids. This should be shown on the nightly news on repeat.

I'm talking about the foolios trying to negotiate bodycams for these Nazis like they are really going to comply even if they say ok.

 

[K1052]

If I ended up on a jury charging a homeowner with murder if they defended themselves and their property during one of these there is nothing in this world that could get me to convict.

https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3mcxobfozm22k

 

[MrSquished]

Good video to watch

https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qj0dbo/slave_patrols_were_also_meant_to_control_the

 

[MrSquished]

If I ended up on a jury charging a homeowner with murder if they defended themselves and their property during one of these there is nothing in this world that could get me to convict.

https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3mcxobfozm22k

I mean of course they are. It's pretty clear these people do not give a flying fuck about the law or any 'regulations' that will restrict their gestapo.

The Dems are fucking pathetic fools to think they are doing anything except looking like feckless idiots to any of us living in reality.

 

[Brainonska511]

If I ended up on a jury charging a homeowner with murder if they defended themselves and their property during one of these there is nothing in this world that could get me to convict.

https://bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3mcxobfozm22k

The DHS clowns are going to get some of their agents killed because of this stupidity. It's only a matter of time before they break down the wrong door. And I certainly won't shed a tear over it.

 

[Fenixgoon]

The DHS clowns are going to get some of their agents killed because of this stupidity. It's only a matter of time before they break down the wrong door. And I certainly won't shed a tear over it.

I'm a little surprised it hasnt happened already.

 

[Jaskalas]

ICE declares the end of the US Constitution.
That United States Citizens have no rights or protections under the law.
You heard them boys. Light them up.

Immigration officers assert sweeping power to enter homes without a judge’s warrant​

 

[nakedfrog]

I kinda suspect the intent behind loosing a bunch of barely trained bloodthirsty racist fascists onto the streets and telling them they're untouchable is precisely to incite violence against them.

 

[pete6032]

 

[MrSquished]

The fact that the national news isn't showing a lot of these videos on repeat is shameful. The fact the Dems have literally zero leadership that will show those videos and call the media and the Nazis themselves out with enough volume, enough conviction, enough passion, and in ways with straight talk that connect with Americans is also shameful. They can't draw attention to any of this because the best the Dem 'leadership' can do, oh we are gonna get some bodycams on them!

This is why nobody can stand the Dems anymore and their polls are in the shitter, they are a failure at being an opposition party. The corporate media is a failure, and the Dems have never held them accountable because they are weak, feckless, have zero idea how to provide leadership or communication, and at the root of it all, is they honestly just don't want to rock the system much and upset their corporate buddies.

 

[pete6032]

The fact that the national news isn't showing a lot of these videos on repeat is shameful. The fact the Dems have literally zero leadership that will show those videos and call the media and the Nazis themselves out with enough volume, enough conviction, enough passion, and in ways with straight talk that connect with Americans is also shameful. They can't draw attention to any of this because the best the Dem 'leadership' can do, oh we are gonna get some bodycams on them!

This is why nobody can stand the Dems anymore and their polls are in the shitter, they are a failure at being an opposition party. The corporate media is a failure, and the Dems have never held them accountable because they are weak, feckless, have zero idea how to provide leadership or communication, and at the root of it all, is they honestly just don't want to rock the system much and upset their corporate buddies.

I don't know why we don't have wealthy and influential people on the left helping organize a resistance.

 

[MrSquished]

I don't know why we don't have wealthy and influential people on the left helping organize a resistance.

You would think the Dem establishment leadership with all their huge money ties would do this. Finance podcasters and media but they won't, because as we have learned, the Dem establishment are corporate cronies as well, they don't actually embrace real progressive values to truly help average Americans. Of course next to the GQP they are fucking saints but in reality, they are a center right party compared to the good countries in Europe.

They hated AOC but she still rose up, but they shut her out of the high profile committee chairmanship for the dead guy, they hated Mamdani and were hoping a sexual harassing pig would beat him running AS a Democrat, they colluded against Bernie in 2016 which should now be so obvious to anyone not in denial, which I doubted they were doing so for years, but now I see their true colors, etc... I mean it's obvious Schumer cares more about Israel than any average American worker, and there have been zero attempts to kick that sick corrupt pathetic fucker out. The Dem powers that be are fine with this shit. They are content with winning elections just by not being those guys over there. They don't have to get better because of how fucking bad the other team is doing now, because they don't really want to fight for what we the people need, hence why you see Sens like Booker talking about 'bodycams for Nazis'

 

[pete6032]

You would think the Dem establishment leadership with all their huge money ties would do this. Finance podcasters and media.

Yes, exactly. Or drop off thousands of whistles and air horns for protesters. Just do something other than promising a lawsuit or two that never impact anything.

 

[Jaskalas]

Terror in America, as the Nazi SS continues unopposed.

Columbus Heights, kid being detained by ICE​