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I was Suckered...Again

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<< I figured I could have gotten a much faster PC with a 15" LCD for around $900 if I built it myself. >>

Actually, last week dell had a decent p4 system with a 15" LCD for about that much
 


<< Anyway, I noticed a 15% resocking fee on the CompUSA reciept.?> If it's opened box. Anyway to get around this? Or will this be a $250 mistake. >>

Well a PC plus that $250 is around $1200 vs the $1800 you've currently got in the toilet, plus you get to have a better computer. Minimize the damage. I'm in shock that it doesn't even have a dvd burner for the price. I'm literally in :Q
 


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<< The bad thing is that the whole time you were buying it you knew you were screwing up didn't you. Didn't you? Say it, say it. SAY IT! <sam kinnison> >>



RIP 🙁 Sam.

You know it. But they had some apple sales guy there and two little carbos. Tell me now how can you fight that? >>



Stop shopping at compusa...That is where you got it, no?

Aren't they the only store to still carry those dinosaurs?
 


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<< Anyway, I noticed a 15% resocking fee on the CompUSA reciept.?> If it's opened box. Anyway to get around this? Or will this be a $250 mistake. >>

Well a PC plus that $250 is around $1200 vs the $1800 you've currently got in the toilet, plus you get to have a better computer. Minimize the damage. I'm in shock that it doesn't even have a dvd burner for the price. I'm literally in :Q >>




But he said it does have a dvd burner.

Hmmm... You are going to be eating 250 dollars.
 


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<< Anyway, I noticed a 15% resocking fee on the CompUSA reciept.?> If it's opened box. Anyway to get around this? Or will this be a $250 mistake. >>

Well a PC plus that $250 is around $1200 vs the $1800 you've currently got in the toilet, plus you get to have a better computer. Minimize the damage. I'm in shock that it doesn't even have a dvd burner for the price. I'm literally in :Q >>




But he said it does have a dvd burner.

Hmmm... You are going to be eating 250 dollars. >>



But he said a little later that it wasn't a DVD burner, it was a CD-RW/DVD combo drive.
 


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<< Anyway, I noticed a 15% resocking fee on the CompUSA reciept.?> If it's opened box. Anyway to get around this? Or will this be a $250 mistake. >>

Well a PC plus that $250 is around $1200 vs the $1800 you've currently got in the toilet, plus you get to have a better computer. Minimize the damage. I'm in shock that it doesn't even have a dvd burner for the price. I'm literally in :Q >>




But he said it does have a dvd burner.

Hmmm... You are going to be eating 250 dollars. >>



But he said a little later that it wasn't a DVD burner, it was a CD-RW/DVD combo drive. >>




Ahhh I see. Simple mistake.
 


<< Several correspondents asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation by Mac zealots, who have been known to e-mail 1,000 or more harangues to the work addresses of those who criticize the huggable device. >>

That's frightening!!! That's far beyond anything I've seen demonstrated by AMD or Intel fanatics, What gives?Is it some kind of horrible denial? 😕
 


<< That's frightening!!! That's far beyond anything I've seen demonstrated by AMD or Intel fanatics, What gives?Is it some kind of horrible denial? 😕 >>

Yep
 
"I noticed a 15% resocking fee on the CompUSA reciept.?> If it's opened box. Anyway to get around this? Or will this be a $250 mistake..."

That shouldn't be the case if the damn thing ain't working right! If it locks and crashes all the time, screw it. Make Apple eat it. Tell CompUSA to send it back to them and give you your damn money. Tell them you'll buy the PC parts from them, if that helps your case.
 


<< Do what I say:

1) Return it
2) Buy a real computer
3) If little carbos want flashy colors get some neon lights in the case and you can get the monitor custom painted in flowery colors.

This saves you a lot of money on a real computer. >>



LOL
 


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<< Several correspondents asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation by Mac zealots, who have been known to e-mail 1,000 or more harangues to the work addresses of those who criticize the huggable device. >>

That's frightening!!! That's far beyond anything I've seen demonstrated by AMD or Intel fanatics, What gives?Is it some kind of horrible denial? 😕 >>



Well there actually used to be a significant ease-of-use difference. The one-two punch of WinXP and OS X have pretty much nullified that difference. Now it's just closed-minded bigotry.
 


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<< Do what I say:

1) Return it
2) Buy a real computer
3) If little carbos want flashy colors get some neon lights in the case and you can get the monitor custom painted in flowery colors.

This saves you a lot of money on a real computer. >>



LOL >>



Don't do that (#3)! Your kids will end up fruity. Don't you want grandkids one day?

Just kidding (before some fruits yell or email bomb me!) hehe.😀
 


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<< Several correspondents asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation by Mac zealots, who have been known to e-mail 1,000 or more harangues to the work addresses of those who criticize the huggable device. >>

That's frightening!!! That's far beyond anything I've seen demonstrated by AMD or Intel fanatics, What gives?Is it some kind of horrible denial? 😕 >>



Well there actually used to be a significant ease-of-use difference. The one-two punch of WinXP and OS X have pretty much nullified that difference. Now it's just closed-minded bigotry. >>



I actually have used 7.5 on a clone called power computing and it was better than 3.1 IMO but not 98se. But your right MS has scored several knockouts on a row.

Btw- thanks earlier for the insight to apples treatment of developers🙁

UPDATE: I called the manager at CompUSA and he said no problem. newegg here I come..

 
You obviously haven't spent anytime with it.

Here are a few truths:

The LCD is the clearest LCD I've ever seen. Working as a consultant and a "real" job, I've seen a few.

The dock is not a taskbar replacment, there is a drop down list of running programs at the top right side of the screen. It is just as quick as the taskbar. and its never in the way.

Why do you say OSX isn't modern OS? Actually it is. More modern than any other at this time. It is a *nix core with a very usable and compatible gui on top. It can be used by computer morons and power users alike.

You could not have gotten a PC with a quality 15" LCD and a DVD burner for $900 those two items would cost $900 alone. You obviosly haven't even researched anything to compare the iMac to.


Oh, and for the record, I do not own a Mac, and I never have. I might buy one of these new iMac's but there are other priorities... (Classic car comes first)





 
"newegg here I come.."

Hey! Good for you!

Just thought I'd pass this link on to Silicone Valley Compucycle for your perusal. I just stumbled on to them while searching for a new quiet PS fan. Never heard of them before, but they have great prices, VERY fair shipping and are top notch in AnandTech Reseller Ratings. Give them a shot if Newegg is out of stock or missing something you want.
 
"You could not have gotten a PC with a quality 15" LCD and a DVD burner for $900 those two items would cost $900 alone..."

He doesn't have a DVD burner, but he does have a lame ass PC that crashes and locks up right out of the box. Are you suggesting he keep the damn thing?
 


<< You obviously haven't spent anytime with it. >>


Enough? I gave this machine an honest 8 hours of solid use. From everything from burning CD's (which incidently only burned 1.2mb out of 430mb before it crashed an ruined not 1 but 3 cd's), to web browsing, printing, word, MacklinkPuls, watched DVD's and apple works..

I should have quit while I was ahead and turned it over to those little boneheads who suggested buying it. But no I wanted to learn so I could support it for them. IT IS/WAS ABSOLUTLY A LAME DOG.




<< Here are a few truths:
The LCD is the clearest LCD I've ever seen. Working as a consultant and a "real" job, I've seen a few. >>


I'm not sure why you would reference a "real" job? But your anecdotal evidence is'nt a truth. My 17.4" Princeton Senergy is just as good and bigger and costs less and uses MVA crystals. And a LCD that blanks out intermittantly is'nt much good IMO.



<< The dock is not a taskbar replacment, there is a drop down list of running programs at the top right side of the screen. It is just as quick as the taskbar. and its never in the way. >>



Tell me about it. The taskbar whips that drop down list all to hell. Remember on a mav when the cursur is spinning yu can't do anything like pull down a menu. And the bloody thing is working all the time. Switching programs or window views causes a 5 second delay. WTF I thought this os had multitasking?




<< Why do you say OSX isn't modern OS? Actually it is. More modern than any other at this time. It is a *nix core with a very usable and compatible gui on top. It can be used by computer morons and power users alike. >>


I never said it was'nt a modern OS. I said any modern MS OS will whipe the floor with OS X.
DUDE read those links provided in this thread if you think it's so great. Keep in mind how much it costs too



<< You could not have gotten a PC with a quality 15" LCD and a DVD burner for $900 those two items would cost $900 alone. You obviosly haven't even researched anything to compare the iMac to. >>



Check this out ....with a 17" not 15" better LCD. Actually every component is faster here.... I can't believe you said that.

ANTEC Mini Tower ATX Case Model SX630 with 300 Watt Power Supply $65.00

Asus A7N266-C NVIDIA nFORCE 415-D $105.00

VISIONTEK Xtasy 5632 GEFORCE2 GTS-V $46.00

AMD Duron 1.0 GHZ Socket A, 200FSBPGA Processor Retail Box Version $58.00

Crucial Micron 128MB 16x64 PC2100 DDR RAM, 184-Pin, CL=2.5-Unbuffered 2.5V, 6-Layers CT1554Z265.16T. 2@ $86.00

PANASONIC 1.44 MB 3.5 INCH HIGH DENSITY FLOPPY DISK DRIVE, MODEL # JU-257A-827P - OEM, DRIVE ONLY WHITE Bezel - $8.00

MAXTOR Quiet Drive 20GB 7200RPM Model # 6L020L1 - OEM, $68.00

AquaView 17XP 17" (WHITE) None-Pixel LCD **White Speaker Amplifier** $540.00

Diamond SupraMax 56K V.92 PCI Modem Data/fax. Fax speeds up to 14,400 bit/s. $17.00

Lite On 32x12x40 CDRW Model LTR-32123S Retail Box $73.00


Total $1133 with shipping


And ANDY and other privided deals around that range for vendors if you think I'm cheating.


Bottom line Mac are twice the price for 1/4 the performance. (hey that really was the bottom line🙂)

 


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Check this out ....with a 17" not 15" better LCD. Actually every component is faster here.... I can't believe you said that.
ANTEC Mini Tower ATX Case Model SX630 with 300 Watt Power Supply $65.00
Asus A7N266-C NVIDIA nFORCE 415-D $105.00
VISIONTEK Xtasy 5632 GEFORCE2 GTS-V $46.00
AMD Duron 1.0 GHZ Socket A, 200FSBPGA Processor Retail Box Version $58.00
Crucial Micron 128MB 16x64 PC2100 DDR RAM, 184-Pin, CL=2.5-Unbuffered 2.5V, 6-Layers CT1554Z265.16T. 2@ $86.00
PANASONIC 1.44 MB 3.5 INCH HIGH DENSITY FLOPPY DISK DRIVE, MODEL # JU-257A-827P - OEM, DRIVE ONLY WHITE Bezel - $8.00
MAXTOR Quiet Drive 20GB 7200RPM Model # 6L020L1 - OEM, $68.00
AquaView 17XP 17" (WHITE) None-Pixel LCD **White Speaker Amplifier** $540.00
Diamond SupraMax 56K V.92 PCI Modem Data/fax. Fax speeds up to 14,400 bit/s. $17.00
Lite On 32x12x40 CDRW Model LTR-32123S Retail Box $73.00
Total $1133 with shipping >>




Whatever, throw the stability of the Mac out the window for a Nforce/Duron solution. Yeah, good.

You will not find a 15"LCD that is as clear and bright as the iMacs for under $500, if you want to kid yourself and think that the 17" you quoted above is worth your time, go ahead.

You need a 40GB drive and a nic, oh and you forgot the DVD burner. If you add those things you are dnagerously close to the same price. You may argue that you don't need them, but I say that if we are going to compare apples and ornages 🙂P)) you need them.

Oh, and double the RAM and get rid of the useless floppy drive.

Dude, all I'm saying is that you aren't giving the thing credit where it is due. The machine is worth every penny you paid for it, if you don't like the dumb thing grow some stones and return it. Build your own so when ever it crashes it becomes "your fault"

I read the deals that andy posted, and as far as I'm concerned that don't measure up. You may be happy with them, but they don't equal the iMac. Its not the end all of computing, but it is a solid and fast machine.







 


<< "newegg here I come.."

Hey! Good for you!

Just thought I'd pass this link on to Silicone Valley Compucycle for your perusal. I just stumbled on to them while searching for a new quiet PS fan. Never heard of them before, but they have great prices, VERY fair shipping and are top notch in AnandTech Reseller Ratings. Give them a shot if Newegg is out of stock or missing something you want. >>



Hey thanks man ....now move that rock outta my way the UPS truck is commin'😉
 
Thanks for the laugh there RCN, but your expirance/opinion could be a more inverse relationship to mine.
 
Iono, but Where did he get those prices? Those are horrible?

From newegg...

EVERCASE E4252WEF5, Intel P4 / AMD, 10-Bay, 300W
$42.00
PIONEER INTERNAL ATAPI DVD-RECORDABLE MODEL DVR-A04SPK
$430.00
80mm case SLEEVE fan for most mid / full tower case CFN0333(IW) N82E16811999105
$4.00
PANASONIC 1.44 MB 3.5 INCH
$8.00
MAXTOR 40GB 7200RPM Model # 6L040J2
$76.00
KB-2000 107-KEY WIN98 PS/2 KEYBOARD
$3.50
KINGSTON KVR266X64C25/256 256MB 32x64 PC2100 DDR RAM
$65.00
NEC/MITSUBISHI 1550M 15" MultiSync (WHITE) **With Speaker**
$389.00
ECS VIA KT266A Chipset ATX Motherboard Model K7VTA3 Version 2.0 - RETAIL BOX
$65.00
Microsoft Intelli-Mouse Optical
$21.00
Dlink DFE-530TX+ Fast Ethernet Adapter 10BT/100BTX
$9.00
AMD Duron 1.2 GHZ Socket A PGA Processor Retail Box Version N82E16819104155
$70.00
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition OEM Full Version
$88.00
VISIONTEK Xtasy 5632 GEFORCE2 GTS-V 4X/2X 32MB DDR AGP - OEM
$46.00


Subtotal » $1,316.50

Did I miss anything? You even got legit OS in there...

EDIT: Added the floppy.

EDIT2: Obviously, people here didn't really research or are just exaggerating. Thats still a couple hundred cheaper then the Imac and more capable and compatible. You might have to put at most 2 hours into there and for a professional at $50 an hour, its still cheaper.
 
I hate to be rude man, but are you fuggen stupid?! Cmon you couldve built 2 KICK ASS SYSTEMS, one for each kid with that much money! What the hell? Are you retarded? Why the hell would you want your kids to grow up on a mac? They are roughly 10 seconds away from being obsolete.

Please do yourself a favor and return it. You will be seriously sorry after you've had to look at it for a couple days, its gonna kill u..
 


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Check this out ....with a 17" not 15" better LCD. Actually every component is faster here.... I can't believe you said that.
ANTEC Mini Tower ATX Case Model SX630 with 300 Watt Power Supply $65.00
Asus A7N266-C NVIDIA nFORCE 415-D $105.00
VISIONTEK Xtasy 5632 GEFORCE2 GTS-V $46.00
AMD Duron 1.0 GHZ Socket A, 200FSBPGA Processor Retail Box Version $58.00
Crucial Micron 128MB 16x64 PC2100 DDR RAM, 184-Pin, CL=2.5-Unbuffered 2.5V, 6-Layers CT1554Z265.16T. 2@ $86.00
PANASONIC 1.44 MB 3.5 INCH HIGH DENSITY FLOPPY DISK DRIVE, MODEL # JU-257A-827P - OEM, DRIVE ONLY WHITE Bezel - $8.00
MAXTOR Quiet Drive 20GB 7200RPM Model # 6L020L1 - OEM, $68.00
AquaView 17XP 17" (WHITE) None-Pixel LCD **White Speaker Amplifier** $540.00
Diamond SupraMax 56K V.92 PCI Modem Data/fax. Fax speeds up to 14,400 bit/s. $17.00
Lite On 32x12x40 CDRW Model LTR-32123S Retail Box $73.00
Total $1133 with shipping >>




Whatever, throw the stability of the Mac out the window for a Nforce/Duron solution. Yeah, good.

You will not find a 15"LCD that is as clear and bright as the iMacs for under $500, if you want to kid yourself and think that the 17" you quoted above is worth your time, go ahead.

You need a 40GB drive and a nic, oh and you forgot the DVD burner. If you add those things you are dnagerously close to the same price. You may argue that you don't need them, but I say that if we are going to compare apples and ornages 🙂P)) you need them.

Oh, and double the RAM and get rid of the useless floppy drive.

Dude, all I'm saying is that you aren't giving the thing credit where it is due. The machine is worth every penny you paid for it, if you don't like the dumb thing grow some stones and return it. Build your own so when ever it crashes it becomes "your fault"

I read the deals that andy posted, and as far as I'm concerned that don't measure up. You may be happy with them, but they don't equal the iMac. Its not the end all of computing, but it is a solid and fast machine. >>



RGN- Carbonyl's iMac didn't come with a DVD burner. It came with a DVD + CDRW drive. Tack another $70 on for another 20 GB of space, plus $70 (being generous here) for a DVD drive, plus another $200 on memory, it still puts his machine at $1470, which is a still $330 less than the iMac. Plus, this is the "out the door" price, not the before tax price quoted by Carbonyl. Finally, Carbonyl quoted 256 MB of RAM in his specs for the PC. Does the iMac actually have 512 MB of RAM in it? If not, the $330 cheaper PC becomes $530. Macs are a less cost-effective computer. Buying one will cost more than buying a similarly powered PC.

Ryan
 
EVERYONE esp. RGN

The iMac did not have a DVD burner. I corrected that eariler. And it was still $1800. So Kelvrik your system is way too highend.😉
 
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