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I owned some guy at work today via email. I sorta got in trouble for it, but it was worth it.

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: brunswickite
Well, at the end of the day You ended up looking bad. I think it was probably the tone of your email, rather then you actually correcting him in front of everyone that pissed everyone off.

The thing is, I didn't piss everyone off. I pissed off two people, and had 8 people agree with me.
You could have pissed off 0 people and been better off in the end had you emailed him directly.
 

notfred

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: brunswickite
Well, at the end of the day You ended up looking bad. I think it was probably the tone of your email, rather then you actually correcting him in front of everyone that pissed everyone off.

The thing is, I didn't piss everyone off. I pissed off two people, and had 8 people agree with me.
You could have pissed off 0 people and been better off in the end had you emailed him directly.

Maybe. Too late now, though. At least the whole building isn't misinformed about Brown Recluse spiders.
 

Mojoed

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Jul 20, 2004
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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: brunswickite
Well, at the end of the day You ended up looking bad. I think it was probably the tone of your email, rather then you actually correcting him in front of everyone that pissed everyone off.

The thing is, I didn't piss everyone off. I pissed off two people, and had 8 people agree with me.

How do you know you didn't piss more people off? (Unless you only work with 10 people) Not everyone is going to email you or approach you for what you did. For all you know there may be tons of people who thought what you did was out of line.
 

Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: brunswickite
Well, at the end of the day You ended up looking bad. I think it was probably the tone of your email, rather then you actually correcting him in front of everyone that pissed everyone off.

The thing is, I didn't piss everyone off. I pissed off two people, and had 8 people agree with me.
You could have pissed off 0 people and been better off in the end had you emailed him directly.

Maybe. Too late now, though. At least the whole building isn't misinformed about Brown Recluse spiders.
And people can finally confirm that you really are an asshole.

At the office I work in, that email would have gotten me a talking to by no less than SIX people who rank higher than me.
 

gopunk

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Jul 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: gopunk
what you did was not the brightest thing, no offense. you should have just emailed the guy instead of everybody. and if he doesn't do anything, then meh. it's not that big of a deal.

My boss being a bit annoyed for half an hour isn't that big of a deal either. Tomorrow nobody will care. I won't get fired or lose any meaningful brownie points or anything.

are you going to get fired? no. will people question your judgement more? yes. does this guy dislike you more? yes.
 

notfred

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Feb 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: brunswickite
Well, at the end of the day You ended up looking bad. I think it was probably the tone of your email, rather then you actually correcting him in front of everyone that pissed everyone off.

The thing is, I didn't piss everyone off. I pissed off two people, and had 8 people agree with me.
You could have pissed off 0 people and been better off in the end had you emailed him directly.

Maybe. Too late now, though. At least the whole building isn't misinformed about Brown Recluse spiders.
And people can finally confirm that you really are an asshole.
See, everyone is better informed now.
 

Mojoed

Diamond Member
Jul 20, 2004
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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: brunswickite
Well, at the end of the day You ended up looking bad. I think it was probably the tone of your email, rather then you actually correcting him in front of everyone that pissed everyone off.

The thing is, I didn't piss everyone off. I pissed off two people, and had 8 people agree with me.
You could have pissed off 0 people and been better off in the end had you emailed him directly.

Maybe. Too late now, though. At least the whole building isn't misinformed about Brown Recluse spiders.
And people can finally confirm that you really are an asshole.
See, everyone is better informed now.

I'm sorry to say you won't make it very far if you continue behavior like this when you get a real job. Do you really think it's worth the risk? It's not about the spiders, it's the principle of situations like this and how you choose to react. I hope you're smart enough to know this. ;)
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: jumpr
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: brunswickite
Well, at the end of the day You ended up looking bad. I think it was probably the tone of your email, rather then you actually correcting him in front of everyone that pissed everyone off.

The thing is, I didn't piss everyone off. I pissed off two people, and had 8 people agree with me.
You could have pissed off 0 people and been better off in the end had you emailed him directly.

Maybe. Too late now, though. At least the whole building isn't misinformed about Brown Recluse spiders.
And people can finally confirm that you really are an asshole.
See, everyone is better informed now.



Next time the "safety officer" spews crap, try sending an email to a select group of 3 people. A) your boss B) the "Safety officer", and C) the Safety Officer's Boss. Give them 24 hours to respond with a retraction/revision. If no response, then let them know you are going to correct the misinformation for the "safety officer."
That way, you aren't being a dick to anyone, and you are giving the "safety officer" a chance to change his ways. Nobody is upset, your boss is happy that you handled things professionally, and the correct information gets out there. Would that be so bad?
 

notfred

Lifer
Feb 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mojoed
I'm sorry to say you won't make it very far if you continue behavior like this when you get a real job. Do you really think it's worth the risk? It's not about the spiders, it's the principle of situations like this and how you choose to react. I hope you're smart enough to know this. ;)

If I thought there was a chance that this would endanger my job or my career, I wouldn't have done it. I'm familiar enough with my place of employment that I knew that no significant action would be taken against me.

And what aspect of my job is fake, exactly?
 

Originally posted by: notfred
Our supposed "safety officer" at work sent out an email to thte entire building about brown recluse spiders, and how bites by them have been increasing in California recently. It had some nasty looking pictures of a guy's hand attached, which you can find all over the internet if you look for brown recluse bites.

Anyway, I responded to the entire building with another email, with links to entymology departments of major universities, showin ghim that brown recluse spiders don't actually live in California, as well as a link to Snopes where they had the exact same pictures as in his email, and they weren't sure if they even were Brown Recluse bites.

The guy who sent the email in the first place got very upset, since I made him look like an idiot. My boss was a bit annoyed, since even thoguh I was right, it's unprofessional to make your coworkers look like idiots in front of thier peers. He basically told me not to send any more email to the entire building, especially in a flame-like manner.

Meanwhile, about 8 other co-workers responded privately to my email thanking me for the additional information, and telling me that they had questioned the original email in the first place.

Yeah, my boss was annoyed with me for a little while, but it was worth it. Hopefully our "safety officer" does some more research before his next important safety warning.
You're so lucky that you work for the government!
 

notfred

Lifer
Feb 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Next time the "safety officer" spews crap, try sending an email to a select group of 3 people. A) your boss B) the "Safety officer", and C) the Safety Officer's Boss. Give them 24 hours to respond with a retraction/revision. If no response, then let them know you are going to correct the misinformation for the "safety officer."
That way, you aren't being a dick to anyone, and you are giving the "safety officer" a chance to change his ways. Nobody is upset, your boss is happy that you handled things professionally, and the correct information gets out there. Would that be so bad?

No, that's actually a pretty good idea.

Ironically, most of the people who are calling me an asshole for what I did are doing bascially the exact same thing as me by saying so. They're calling me out in a public forum where everyone can see the criticism they're levelling against me, meanwhile, saying I'm an asshole for doing the same thing at work.

Sure, they can say "I'm not at work - I can't get fired from ATOT", but I knew I wouldn't get fired either, and being banned from ATOT (I'm not saying anyone would be banned, although I guess they probably could be, technically) would be more traumatic an event for a lot of the people here that having a boss be annoyed for part of an afternoon.
 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Next time the "safety officer" spews crap, try sending an email to a select group of 3 people. A) your boss B) the "Safety officer", and C) the Safety Officer's Boss. Give them 24 hours to respond with a retraction/revision. If no response, then let them know you are going to correct the misinformation for the "safety officer."
That way, you aren't being a dick to anyone, and you are giving the "safety officer" a chance to change his ways. Nobody is upset, your boss is happy that you handled things professionally, and the correct information gets out there. Would that be so bad?

No, that's actually a pretty good idea.

Ironically, most of the people who are calling me an asshole for what I did are doing bascially the exact same thing as me by saying so. They're calling me out in a public forum where everyone can see the criticism they're levelling against me, meanwhile, saying I'm an asshole for doing the same thing at work.

Sure, they can say "I'm not at work - I can't get fired from ATOT", but I knew I wouldn't get fired either, and being banned from ATOT (I'm not saying anyone would be banned, although I guess they probably could be, technically) would be more traumatic an event for a lot of the people here that having a boss be annoyed for part of an afternoon.
You're almost as blockheaded as Riprorin. Just learn some professional courtesy.
 

Mojoed

Diamond Member
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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Next time the "safety officer" spews crap, try sending an email to a select group of 3 people. A) your boss B) the "Safety officer", and C) the Safety Officer's Boss. Give them 24 hours to respond with a retraction/revision. If no response, then let them know you are going to correct the misinformation for the "safety officer."
That way, you aren't being a dick to anyone, and you are giving the "safety officer" a chance to change his ways. Nobody is upset, your boss is happy that you handled things professionally, and the correct information gets out there. Would that be so bad?

No, that's actually a pretty good idea.

Ironically, most of the people who are calling me an asshole for what I did are doing bascially the exact same thing as me by saying so. They're calling me out in a public forum where everyone can see the criticism they're levelling against me, meanwhile, saying I'm an asshole for doing the same thing at work.

Sure, they can say "I'm not at work - I can't get fired from ATOT", but I knew I wouldn't get fired either, and being banned from ATOT (I'm not saying anyone would be banned, although I guess they probably could be, technically) would be more traumatic an event for a lot of the people here that having a boss be annoyed for part of an afternoon.

For the record, I don't think you're an asshoIe. ;) I just would have handled the situation differently. BurnItDwn had a great suggestion.
 

Originally posted by: werk
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
Next time the "safety officer" spews crap, try sending an email to a select group of 3 people. A) your boss B) the "Safety officer", and C) the Safety Officer's Boss. Give them 24 hours to respond with a retraction/revision. If no response, then let them know you are going to correct the misinformation for the "safety officer."
That way, you aren't being a dick to anyone, and you are giving the "safety officer" a chance to change his ways. Nobody is upset, your boss is happy that you handled things professionally, and the correct information gets out there. Would that be so bad?

No, that's actually a pretty good idea.

Ironically, most of the people who are calling me an asshole for what I did are doing bascially the exact same thing as me by saying so. They're calling me out in a public forum where everyone can see the criticism they're levelling against me, meanwhile, saying I'm an asshole for doing the same thing at work.

Sure, they can say "I'm not at work - I can't get fired from ATOT", but I knew I wouldn't get fired either, and being banned from ATOT (I'm not saying anyone would be banned, although I guess they probably could be, technically) would be more traumatic an event for a lot of the people here that having a boss be annoyed for part of an afternoon.
You're almost as blockheaded as Riprorin. Just learn some professional courtesy.
Oh, we agree on something!

I'll add though that's hard to forge professional courtesy when one lacks even basic courtesy.
 

Looney

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
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Originally posted by: notfred
Everyone who says I shouldn't have done it:

Don't complain if you ever call up a government office and they give you completely false information. Apparently it's a bad thing if anyone corrects them.

I see people giving out false information, or doing things wrong, all the time, but i butt my nose in it... especially if nobody is going to get hurt or scammed. So what, the 'saftey officer' can feel good about what he's doing, and everybody else can believe it or not, in the end it really doesn't matter... not for something as little as this. I guess if your life was lacking in accomplishments, this was an easy way to boost your ego.

Your boss sees you as petty now. The professional thing would have been to email the original sender, telling him his information is wrong. But instead, you had to 'pwned' him.
 

Looney

Lifer
Jun 13, 2000
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Ironically, most of the people who are calling me an asshole for what I did are doing bascially the exact same thing as me by saying so. They're calling me out in a public forum where everyone can see the criticism they're levelling against me, meanwhile, saying I'm an asshole for doing the same thing at work.

Sure, they can say "I'm not at work - I can't get fired from ATOT", but I knew I wouldn't get fired either, and being banned from ATOT (I'm not saying anyone would be banned, although I guess they probably could be, technically) would be more traumatic an event for a lot of the people here that having a boss be annoyed for part of an afternoon.

Wow, are you really unable to tell the difference between ATOT message board and your company's emailing system?
 

Pepsei

Lifer
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ha ha... i would've done it too, but using an anonymous exchange server admin account.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: werk
Oh and notfred, somehow, I would expect something like this from you.
yes, very brash with his actions. There's a human factor that needs to be applied with everything he does... I think he'll find this in him one day.
 

EKKC

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Originally posted by: Koenigsegg
You should've emailed him privately and had him retract what he said..otherwise you were kind of a jackass.


that's what a normal person who's not asking to be fired would do
 

AdamSnow

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I've wanted to respond to the entire company before as well...

Someone new to the company once sent out an email to all employees (35,000) stating he needed a new mouse because his didnt work anymore... and to give him a call... :) it was great :) I'm sure we could have had some fun with that one.