I no longer consider myself a christian

[lxskllr]

This is whatever the fuck Islam says (per Wikipedia):

I'll take exile. Sounds sweet.

 

[Platypus]

You may say you won't judge him but you might (deservedly) get a vacation for calling him that though.

nah apparently lovely human and i love you are ok around here.

No, they're not.
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[surfsatwerk]

He's passively updating his profile. What should he do, call up family members to inform them?

I talk to my family. Granted it's not the hip way to communicate with people, but I like to keep things real.

 

[mrCide]

Same thing with me this year, cept i won't be telling my family.

 

[ctark]

I talk to my family. Granted it's not the hip way to communicate with people, but I like to keep things real.

Me: "Hey Aunt, how are things going? How is Uncle doing with his cancer treatment?"

Aunt: "Oh well you know, God blah blah blah blah"

Me: "God doesn't exist"

Aunt: cries

Yep, thats keeping it real.

 

[slayer202]

It is a big deal. Now I wont judge you for being a lovely human.

hahahaa!!!!!! unfortunately I think you might be banned for that one

 

[surfsatwerk]

Me: "Hey Aunt, how are things going? How is Uncle doing with his cancer treatment?"

Aunt: "Oh well you know, God blah blah blah blah"

Me: "God doesn't exist"

Aunt: cries

Yep, thats keeping it real.

Well here's how adults handle problems.

Me: "Mom I want you to know that I've struggled with my faith for a long time now and I don't feel it's a good fit in my life anymore. I just want you to know what's going on with me because I love you and don't want this choice to come between us."

Don't be a belligerent twat OP.

 

[JS80]

that's a start, but you have plenty more christian habits to change :^p

orly?

judge not, that ye be not judged.

Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

 

[dquan97]

What exactly does "live as a christian" mean? Sex with kids, women are slaves, burn animals on altars? Which bits and pieces of the big book of fairy tales have you decided to follow in the interest of living as a christian and which parts have you chosen to ignore because they're inconvenient? Your view of living as a christian is about as valid as the other billion people who each have invented their own personal little version of christianity.

Basically: Love God and love people. The lessons in the early books of the Bible details what those people had to do to exist.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I'm far from a kid, I'm 27 years old. Its just the easiest way to do it without throwing my beliefs in someone's face.

Don't worry; If you haven't honestly repented of your sins and accepted the gift of the Holy Spirit then you weren't a Christian to begin with.

You aren't changing, your just being honest; and for that I commend you.

I just wish the other 90% of people in church who don't love the Lord would do the same as you.

 

[cronos]

What exactly does "live as a christian" mean? Sex with kids, women are slaves, burn animals on altars? Which bits and pieces of the big book of fairy tales have you decided to follow in the interest of living as a christian and which parts have you chosen to ignore because they're inconvenient? Your view of living as a christian is about as valid as the other billion people who each have invented their own personal little version of christianity.

I don't see anything wrong with what you're saying.

 

[JS80]

stfu, i love you :twisted:

He rides a Harley?

 

[cronos]

This is whatever the fuck Islam says (per Wikipedia):

Quote:
Quran specifically describes three types of punishment for apostates via these verses;
“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;” [Surah Al-Maidah 5:33]."

Except in 5:32 it clearly shows you that 5:33 was talking about punishment to murderers/criminal.

And that in 5:34 it says: "Except those who repent.."

But then it wouldn't be as bombastic as it sounds if you read through the context, would it?

 

[AreaCode707]

As a high school youth leader, I tell my teenagers that, as long as they seek truth no matter what I do not have to worry about how far afield they go because I'm confident that what I have is truth.

Tell your family that you're seeking truth and won't stop til you find it, and that as long as they're confident that what they believe is truth that they have no reason to worry about you. Any concern they have after that is their own self-doubt surfacing.

 

[classy]

What exactly does "live as a christian" mean? Sex with kids, women are slaves, burn animals on altars? Which bits and pieces of the big book of fairy tales have you decided to follow in the interest of living as a christian and which parts have you chosen to ignore because they're inconvenient? Your view of living as a christian is about as valid as the other billion people who each have invented their own personal little version of christianity.

Atheists do all these same things.

 

[TheVrolok]

Troll thread is troll.

 

[totalnoob]

When your family tries the "what if you're wrong??" gambit (It is sure to happen), give them a variation of the atheist's wager in response..

You should live your life and try to make the world a better place for your being in it, whether or not you believe in god. If there is no god, you have lost nothing and will be remembered fondly by those you left behind. If there is a benevolent god, he will judge you on your merits and not just on whether or not you believed in him.

Basically, if the god they believe in is good and just, he won't punish you for reaching an honest conclusion. And if he is the type of god who will torture you in hell simply for not believing in the right religion, he is an evil god..and would not be worthy of worship anyway.

 

[Kadarin]

Except in 5:32 it clearly shows you that 5:33 was talking about punishment to murderers/criminal.

And that in 5:34 it says: "Except those who repent.."

But then it wouldn't be as bombastic as it sounds if you read through the context, would it?

Don't look at me, I'm just doing some copypasta from Wikipedia. Here's some more:

Today apostasy is illegal in most Muslim countries, and subject in some to the death penalty. Executions for apostasy are rare, but allowed in many Muslim countries such as Iran and Saudi Arabia. Apostasy is legal in secular Muslim countries such as Turkey.

I would argue that it doesn't really matter what the Quran itself says. What matters is how Islamic countries actually behave in regards to the matter, because that is how Islam is actually practiced today.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Atheists do all these same things.

Speak for yourself. I don't do any of those things.

 

[TheVrolok]

When your family tries the "what if you're wrong??" gambit (It is sure to happen), give them a variation of the atheist's wager in response..

You should live your life and try to make the world a better place for your being in it, whether or not you believe in god. If there is no god, you have lost nothing and will be remembered fondly by those you left behind. If there is a benevolent god, he will judge you on your merits and not just on whether or not you believed in him.

Basically, if the god they believe in is good and just, he won't punish you for reaching an honest conclusion. And if he is the type of god who will torture you in hell simply for not believing in the right religion, he is an evil god..and would not be worthy of worship anyway.

Unfortunately, that wager doesn't follow Christian logic and I don't think his family, if conservative Christians, would agree with it in any way. In my experiences, Christians believe that God is worthy of worship because he is the Creator, not because of his actions whether good or evil. The simple fact that He created mankind is deserving of our eternal worship, even if He would condemn a "good atheist" in the end. I think it's inane as well, but that's what they believe.

 

[TheVrolok]

Speak for yourself. I don't do any of those things.

Neither do most Christians, so the argument is invalid. Or at least that's what I suppose Classy's argument is.

 

[zinfamous]

It is a big deal. Now I wont judge you for being a lovely human.

lol, shedding those "Christian burdens" really has left a sparkle in your step.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

D:

He could always worship Wally, HP and me

 

[AMDZen]

nah apparently lovely human and i love you are ok around here.

No, they're not.
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[cronos]

Don't look at me, I'm just doing some copypasta from Wikipedia.

Fair enough. I just wanted to point out that it's really easy to take excerpt from the Quran (or Bible, for that matter) without context and get a totally different understanding of what the story is about.

I would argue that it doesn't really matter what the Quran itself says. What matters is how Islamic countries actually behave in regards to the matter, because that is how Islam is actually practiced today.

Unfortunately, a lot of muslims themselves do the exact same thing, take Quran words out of context and refer to them as the ultimate rules (with the effect totally opposite of what was meant). Some do it because they truly don't understand, some because they were misled, and some do this intentionally to further their own personal/group agenda.