I NEED VISTA DRIVERS FOR NVIDIA 8800GTX :!

[Gamingphreek]

Dear lord, ANOTHER thread on this!?

First off Vista is NOT out. BFG, can you go to Bestbuy/Circuit City/Office Max/Office Depot/Newegg and purchase a copy and have it shipped to you. NO

Vista is only being released to businesses (NOT small businesses, we are talking corporations), and enterprise class sectors. I have yet to see someone on any forum or news show, say "My COMPANY is angry because we can't use a GAMING graphics card in a Business Workstation environment". Furthermore, Corporations have a lot more pull than us consumers, if they desperately needed a driver for whatever reason, I am sure Nvidia can accommodate a Corporation.

Finally, the card IS Vista ready. It is physically capable of running Windows Vista at its full potential. Just because there is no driver support doesn't mean that the card doesn't physically have the power to draw the display.

I wish people would stop being immature little 12 year olds, and whining and complaining to us. If you haven't noticed WE can't do anything about this situation. Whining and complaining in MULTIPLE threads only pisses people off and detracts away from real video topics and problems that should be here. Grow up people!

-Kevin

Edit: I'll continue to list vendors in which they are not Available. Not just not in stock, but not available.
Zip Zoom Fly
Monarch Computer
Wal-Mart
Tiger Direct
Dell (Not sold, nor is it shipped with their computers)

Also, BFG, perhaps we need to go over the difference between Compliance and Compatibility. I never though I would be having this childish discussion with someone as intelligent as you.

 

[postmortemIA]

Get GeForce 5200 FX LE.

 

[FireChicken]

Found this xtreme G nvidia 32 bit vista drivers

Not sure if it is for the G80 and they are also beta

Link

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: FireChicken
Found this xtreme G nvidia 32 bit vista drivers

Not sure if it is for the G80 and they are also beta

Link

Unfortunately they are for G7x and lower.

Also unfortunately, the modded .inf file will not work because the G80 is a completely new and redesigned architecture. It wasn't building off of NV3x or NV4x like the G7x was. That is why they don't have drivers out and that is why modded .inf's don't work.

Nice find though!

-Kevin

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
First off Vista is NOT out.

Tell that to all those people currently running legally obtained copies.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
BFG, can you go to Bestbuy/Circuit City/Office Max/Office Depot/Newegg and purchase a copy and have it shipped to you. NO

So? Retail sales obviously aren't the only method of obtaining a legal copy of Vista.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Vista is only being released to businesses (NOT small businesses, we are talking corporations), and enterprise class sectors. I have yet to see someone on any forum or news show, say "My COMPANY is angry because we can't use a GAMING graphics card in a Business Workstation environment".

TechNet Plus single user accounts also have legal access to download and install Vista. So you don't need to belong to a large corporation to have legal access to Vista.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Furthermore, Corporations have a lot more pull than us consumers, if they desperately needed a driver for whatever reason, I am sure Nvidia can accommodate a Corporation.

And I'm sure that if there was any sort of Vista G80 driver made available to corporations that it would have been leaked to the internet by now given the number of people desperately looking for one.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Finally, the card IS Vista ready. It is physically capable of running Windows Vista at its full potential. Just because there is no driver support doesn't mean that the card doesn't physically have the power to draw the display.

It is obviously NOT Vista Ready. According to Microsoft, in order to display the Vista Ready logo, a GPU must be "DirectX 9 Capable (WDDM Driver Support recommended)". Without drivers, it cannot meet this requirement.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I wish people would stop being immature little 12 year olds, and whining and complaining to us. If you haven't noticed WE can't do anything about this situation. Whining and complaining in MULTIPLE threads only pisses people off and detracts away from real video topics and problems that should be here. Grow up people!

-Kevin

Who is this "us" that you're telling people to stop "whining and complaining" to? I didn't realize you are now responsible for setting the acceptable use policy for the AT forums.

 

[DeathReborn]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
First off Vista is NOT out.

Tell that to all those people currently running legally obtained copies.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
BFG, can you go to Bestbuy/Circuit City/Office Max/Office Depot/Newegg and purchase a copy and have it shipped to you. NO

So? Retail sales obviously aren't the only method of obtaining a legal copy of Vista.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Vista is only being released to businesses (NOT small businesses, we are talking corporations), and enterprise class sectors. I have yet to see someone on any forum or news show, say "My COMPANY is angry because we can't use a GAMING graphics card in a Business Workstation environment".

TechNet Plus single user accounts also have legal access to download and install Vista. So you don't need to belong to a large corporation to have legal access to Vista.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Furthermore, Corporations have a lot more pull than us consumers, if they desperately needed a driver for whatever reason, I am sure Nvidia can accommodate a Corporation.

And I'm sure that if there was any sort of Vista G80 driver made available to corporations that it would have been leaked to the internet by now given the number of people desperately looking for one.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Finally, the card IS Vista ready. It is physically capable of running Windows Vista at its full potential. Just because there is no driver support doesn't mean that the card doesn't physically have the power to draw the display.

It is obviously NOT Vista Ready. According to Microsoft, in order to display the Vista Ready logo, a GPU must be "DirectX 9 Capable (WDDM Driver Support recommended)". Without drivers, it cannot meet this requirement.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I wish people would stop being immature little 12 year olds, and whining and complaining to us. If you haven't noticed WE can't do anything about this situation. Whining and complaining in MULTIPLE threads only pisses people off and detracts away from real video topics and problems that should be here. Grow up people!

-Kevin

Who is this "us" that you're telling people to stop "whining and complaining" to? I didn't realize you are now responsible for setting the acceptable use policy for the AT forums.

G80 is DX9 capable and the Driver part is just a RECOMMENDATION!

Vista Business is not intended for Home Use, perhaps those that do so should go read up their licensing agreements.

Vista is not available for Public Consumer use but ONLY for Businesses & Corporations & select MSDN users (of which I am a lucky recipient). Businesses & Corporations won't be using a G80 anytime soon. The price & performance does not meet Business/Corporate requirements.

You may obtain it legally but you cannot buy it (Excluding Business & Corporate which is not for home use), that's why it is classified as NOT RELEASED!

As for tuteja, when you get out of bed with ATi you would get a more receptive response to that kind of bile.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: DeathReborn
G80 is DX9 capable and the Driver part is just a RECOMMENDATION!

Yes, I realize being WDDM certified is only a recommendation. But how exactly do you display DirectX content without a driver of any kind?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: DeathReborn
G80 is DX9 capable and the Driver part is just a RECOMMENDATION!

Yes, I realize being WDDM certified is only a recommendation. But how exactly do you display DirectX content without a driver of any kind?

DX 10 hasn't been released yet either in the Vista version that have been made available. Not only that I have yet to see ANY DX10 content outside of Tech Demos (Not to say that the drivers shouldn't be available because of that by any means).

I believe DeathReborn accurately solidified my argument further and silenced your weak straw man arguments. Give me a break Creig, you have been around here and technology long enough to know that this OS has not been released to the General Public (ie Consumers).

Who is this "us" that you're telling people to stop "whining and complaining" to? I didn't realize you are now responsible for setting the acceptable use policy for the AT forums.

By "us" i mean the general people that post on Video. For instance, I just posted on a thread about a Home Theater PC TV Tuner Card. The obscene amount of threads whining and complaining to the people who are in the EXACT SAME SITUATION do nothing but pollute the video forum further.

Now I know why I left the Video Forum for the most part. Because someone always has a chip on their shoulder, someone always has to blow something out of proportion. It is really pitiful that a group of people this knowledgeable have essentially made this forum just as bad as P&N. In fact so bad, that it is generally unmoderated.

-Kevin

 

[VooDooAddict]

Vista Biz is out... and there are certainly fully understandable reasons why a company would want to use Vista and 8800s.

But ... is DX10 in Vista Biz right now? or will it be patched in after the release of Vista Consumer products? If DX10 is already in there then there should be Alpha or Beta drivers available. There must still be some major defects for them to be holding off on releasing even a beta driver... it might even be a defect with the DX10 API.

The fact that fully WDDM certified drivers aren't out is very understandable ... there are loads of vendors trying to get certified drivers in time for the consumer level launch of Vista at the end of this month.

Do I have Vista? no Do I have an 8800? no
Why the hell am I commenting on this thread?
--- I've told people planning to update to Vista to wait on builds with 8800s till after Vista Consumer versions are released for this very reason. If you just want an 8800 for it's amazing DX9 performance in XP Pro ... go for it! If you are getting an 8800 for Vista ... wait till drivers are available. If you already had a 8800 and are already moving to Vista, moving to a new OS always has the risk of issues.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
DX 10 hasn't been released yet either in the Vista version that have been made available. Not only that I have yet to see ANY DX10 content outside of Tech Demos (Not to say that the drivers shouldn't be available because of that by any means).

DirectX10 compatibility is not a requirement for Vista Ready certification.

A Windows Vista Capable PC includes at least:

A modern processor (at least 800MHz1).
512 MB of system memory.
A graphics processor that is DirectX 9 capable.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/capable.mspx

Without drivers, a video card cannot be DirectX capable.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I believe DeathReborn accurately solidified my argument further and silenced your weak straw man arguments. Give me a break Creig, you have been around here and technology long enough to know that this OS has not been released to the General Public (ie Consumers).

The "Vista Ready" logo requirements do not differentiate between the various flavors of Vista, nor the source they are obtained from. There is no "Vista Ultimate Ready" logo or Vista Business Ready" logo or "Vista Home Ready" or... Either an item is "Vista Ready" or it is not.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
By "us" i mean the general people that post on Video. For instance, I just posted on a thread about a Home Theater PC TV Tuner Card. The obscene amount of threads whining and complaining to the people who are in the EXACT SAME SITUATION do nothing but pollute the video forum further.

Now I know why I left the Video Forum for the most part. Because someone always has a chip on their shoulder, someone always has to blow something out of proportion. It is really pitiful that a group of people this knowledgeable have essentially made this forum just as bad as P&N. In fact so bad, that it is generally unmoderated.

-Kevin

You've always been generally abusive and seem to enjoy insulting people by saying things like they are "whining and complaining" and "chip on their shoulder". If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to stick around. I'm sure that if you were more polite and less confrontational that you'd be better received around here.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
DX 10 hasn't been released yet either in the Vista version that have been made available. Not only that I have yet to see ANY DX10 content outside of Tech Demos (Not to say that the drivers shouldn't be available because of that by any means).

DirectX10 compatibility is not a requirement for Vista Ready certification.

A Windows Vista Capable PC includes at least:

A modern processor (at least 800MHz1).
512 MB of system memory.
A graphics processor that is DirectX 9 capable.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/capable.mspx

Without drivers, a video card cannot be DirectX capable.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I believe DeathReborn accurately solidified my argument further and silenced your weak straw man arguments. Give me a break Creig, you have been around here and technology long enough to know that this OS has not been released to the General Public (ie Consumers).

The "Vista Ready" logo requirements do not differentiate between the various flavors of Vista, nor the source they are obtained from. There is no "Vista Ultimate Ready" logo or Vista Business Ready" logo or "Vista Home Ready" or... Either an item is "Vista Ready" or it is not.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
By "us" i mean the general people that post on Video. For instance, I just posted on a thread about a Home Theater PC TV Tuner Card. The obscene amount of threads whining and complaining to the people who are in the EXACT SAME SITUATION do nothing but pollute the video forum further.

Now I know why I left the Video Forum for the most part. Because someone always has a chip on their shoulder, someone always has to blow something out of proportion. It is really pitiful that a group of people this knowledgeable have essentially made this forum just as bad as P&N. In fact so bad, that it is generally unmoderated.

-Kevin

You've always been generally abusive and seem to enjoy insulting people by saying things like they are "whining and complaining" and "chip on their shoulder". If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to stick around. I'm sure that if you were more polite and less confrontational that you'd be better received around here.

Creig let me ask you...how many guides have you post. Outside of your biased pompous attitude what have you done to help people in this forum. I'm certainly not without fault, but I have never seen a post where you are unbiased, and overall kind.

And for the record, I don't remember one time in my tenure here on these forums where I have "always been generally abusive and {I} seem to enjoy insulting people".

irectX10 compatibility is not a requirement for Vista Ready certification.

Ok, I fail to see how that solidifies your argument and detracts from mine. Quite the opposite actually.

Without drivers, a video card cannot be DirectX capable.

The drivers have not been released yet. Therefore the card is Vista Capable and is merely awaiting drivers for an UNRELEASED OS. I don't know how many times we have to drill it into your head. As much as you argue "This person has it" or "This other person has it" Vista is not available to the public. You cannot purchase it. It is unreleased.

Come on, despite that you hate Nvidia, you cannot possibly hope to continue arguing this topic.

-Kevin

 

[nullpointerus]

Lots of pointless whining in this thread! :roll:

Microsoft set the Jan. 30 date for a reason. What is it?



/thread

 

[VooDooAddict]

Originally posted by: Creig

The "Vista Ready" logo requirements do not differentiate between the various flavors of Vista, nor the source they are obtained from. There is no "Vista Ultimate Ready" logo or Vista Business Ready" logo or "Vista Home Ready" or... Either an item is "Vista Ready" or it is not.

What are the requirements to get the logo? Any links? Does it have a date that the item must have all it's drivers by? Do we know for certain that the driver isn't ready because of NVIDIA? or could it be because of lack of DX10 completion? Do we know that the 8800 Vista driver doesn't require DX10? There have certainly been other Nvidia Driver packages requiring a particular version of DX before installing the driver in the past.

 

[beggerking]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: DeathReborn
G80 is DX9 capable and the Driver part is just a RECOMMENDATION!

Yes, I realize being WDDM certified is only a recommendation. But how exactly do you display DirectX content without a driver of any kind?

To obtain the logo, the hardware has to be at least DX9 compatible, and promise there will be a driver for it when vista is here, aka when "vista ready" becomes "vista compatible". 8800 is a consumer card btw. consumer version of vista is not here yet.

 

[Acanthus]

Microsoft says Jan30th.

Microsoft makes the product.

Microsoft distributes the product.

If you have it now, you are an exception, not a normal customer.

This is not hard to understand.

 

[BFG10K]

First off Vista is NOT out. BFG,

Yes it is. It is available through several legitimate channels and previously nVidia was claiming G80 is "Vista ready" with no quantifier. It was only after the public uproar they added the date on their website.

can you go to Bestbuy/Circuit City/Office Max/Office Depot/Newegg and purchase a copy and have it shipped to you. NO

That it's not available in those places doesn't mean it's not available.

Vista is only being released to businesses (NOT small businesses, we are talking corporations), and enterprise class sectors.

Rubbish.

I have yet to see someone on any forum or news show, say "My COMPANY is angry because we can't use a GAMING graphics card in a Business Workstation environment".

These people are running Vista and want Vista drivers for their product. Perhaps you should go in there and tell them they don't deserve drivers because they aren't a large business.

Furthermore, Corporations have a lot more pull than us consumers, if they desperately needed a driver for whatever reason, I am sure Nvidia can accommodate a Corporation.

Obviously they haven't accommodated anyone because there are no Vista drivers for G80. That's the problem, especially for people that invested a lot of money into such products on the basis they were running Vista and it was claimed the product was Vista ready.

Finally, the card IS Vista ready. It is physically capable of running Windows Vista at its full potential. Just because there is no driver support doesn't mean that the card doesn't physically have the power to draw the display.

LOL, hardware has nothing to do with software, right? :roll:

I wish people would stop being immature little 12 year olds, and whining and complaining to us. If you haven't noticed WE can't do anything about this situation. Whining and complaining in MULTIPLE threads only pisses people off and detracts away from real video topics and problems that should be here. Grow up people!

People being infuriated about nVidia's false advertising is childish?

Also, BFG, perhaps we need to go over the difference between Compliance and Compatibility.

Except you can't be compliant or compatible without drivers.

Creig let me ask you...how many guides have you post.

I fail to see how this strawman has any relevance to G80 Vista drivers.

 

[Nelsieus]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
Yes it is. It is available through several legitimate channels

And these "legitimate" channels would be? And why do I get the feeling they're not so legitimate?

Originally posted by: BFG10Kand previously nVidia was claiming G80 is "Vista ready" with no quantifier.

The hardware is indeed vista-ready. Driver are not hardware, nor were sold individually as being "vista-ready drivers."

Originally posted by: BFG10KIt was only after the public uproar they added the date on their website.

The public uproar were the few percent of vista owners all trickling to make their complaints. I'm not discrediting their attempts, but a massive uproar you're describing was more or less non-existant (and yes, I've read the thread(s).)

Originally posted by: BFG10KThat it's not available in those places doesn't mean it's not available.

According to Microsoft, it's not available to any consumers until Jan. 30.

Originally posted by: BFG10KRubbish.

We call it trash over here in the good 'ole US.

Originally posted by: BFG10KThese people are running Vista and want Vista drivers for their product. Perhaps you should go in there and tell them they don't deserve drivers because they aren't a large business.

There's a lot of things many different people want, but the industry doesn't work like that. And nobody's saying they don't deserve Vista drivers. They just shouldn't be expecting nVidia to magically release them, especially granted Vista is not available to consumers yet. nVidia has been very clear that they intend to release the drivers before Vista's availability on Jan. 30. If they fail to release them by that time, then Vista buyers may have validity in voicing their discontent.

Originally posted by: BFG10KObviously they haven't accommodated anyone because there are no Vista drivers for G80. That's the problem, especially for people that invested a lot of money into such products on the basis they were running Vista and it was claimed the product was Vista ready.

Those people who invested a lot of money knew they were getting a version of the OS that was yet to be released to consumers.

Originally posted by: BFG10KLOL, hardware has nothing to do with software, right? :roll:

But isn't that the argument you're trying to make (connecting lack of vista *drivers / software* to Vista ready hardware.)

Originally posted by: BFG10KPeople being infuriated about nVidia's false advertising is childish?

No, but people like you, who don't even own Vista nor G80 are surely blowing the issue out of proportion every chance you get....childish (and I have another word for it to that rhymes with rolling).

Originally posted by: BFG10KExcept you can't be compliant or compatible without drivers.

Hardware and software are two different things. Take your own advice.

I tried to take the "we'll have to respectfully disagree" route the first time, but you on the other hand are throwing all logic out the door in your attempt to....what is it again, exactly...bash nVidia?

Nelsieus

 

[ronnn]

Guess this means that the 8800 is vista broke. Personally I would wait until nvidia delivers vista drivers, if I was running vista that is. They have a history of promising features that turn out crappy. Maybe they can send another viral marketer to announce that they have seen the fix. Same for ati of course.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
DX 10 hasn't been released yet either in the Vista version that have been made available. Not only that I have yet to see ANY DX10 content outside of Tech Demos (Not to say that the drivers shouldn't be available because of that by any means).

DirectX10 compatibility is not a requirement for Vista Ready certification.

A Windows Vista Capable PC includes at least:

A modern processor (at least 800MHz1).
512 MB of system memory.
A graphics processor that is DirectX 9 capable.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/capable.mspx

Without drivers, a video card cannot be DirectX capable.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
I believe DeathReborn accurately solidified my argument further and silenced your weak straw man arguments. Give me a break Creig, you have been around here and technology long enough to know that this OS has not been released to the General Public (ie Consumers).

The "Vista Ready" logo requirements do not differentiate between the various flavors of Vista, nor the source they are obtained from. There is no "Vista Ultimate Ready" logo or Vista Business Ready" logo or "Vista Home Ready" or... Either an item is "Vista Ready" or it is not.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
By "us" i mean the general people that post on Video. For instance, I just posted on a thread about a Home Theater PC TV Tuner Card. The obscene amount of threads whining and complaining to the people who are in the EXACT SAME SITUATION do nothing but pollute the video forum further.

Now I know why I left the Video Forum for the most part. Because someone always has a chip on their shoulder, someone always has to blow something out of proportion. It is really pitiful that a group of people this knowledgeable have essentially made this forum just as bad as P&N. In fact so bad, that it is generally unmoderated.

-Kevin

You've always been generally abusive and seem to enjoy insulting people by saying things like they are "whining and complaining" and "chip on their shoulder". If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to stick around. I'm sure that if you were more polite and less confrontational that you'd be better received around here.

Creig let me ask you...how many guides have you post. Outside of your biased pompous attitude what have you done to help people in this forum. I'm certainly not without fault, but I have never seen a post where you are unbiased, and overall kind.

And for the record, I don't remember one time in my tenure here on these forums where I have "always been generally abusive and {I} seem to enjoy insulting people".

irectX10 compatibility is not a requirement for Vista Ready certification.

Ok, I fail to see how that solidifies your argument and detracts from mine. Quite the opposite actually.

Without drivers, a video card cannot be DirectX capable.

The drivers have not been released yet. Therefore the card is Vista Capable and is merely awaiting drivers for an UNRELEASED OS. I don't know how many times we have to drill it into your head. As much as you argue "This person has it" or "This other person has it" Vista is not available to the public. You cannot purchase it. It is unreleased.

Come on, despite that you hate Nvidia, you cannot possibly hope to continue arguing this topic.

-Kevin

talk about the pot calling the kettle black ...
:thumbsdown:


you are ONE of the the MOST *pompus and biased* nvidia do-or-die- supporter on AFT Video and anyone can clearly see it in your butt-kissing of ChrisRay.
:Q

let me apply your own words to you:
Come on, despite that you hate ATi, you cannot possibly hope to continue arguing this topic.

Vista IS out ... nvidia doesn't have drivers for G80 ...

simple ... really



edit: in case anyone missed it:http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...&STARTPAGE=5&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Chris there are some of us who really understand your effort to the IT community and we support you 100% for your comittment.

You gain my respect and i wish that i could one day be in your position. (or a part of a engineering team in ATi or nVIDIA).

But im still a long way off.

OK

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: ronnn
Guess this means that the 8800 is vista broke. Personally I would wait until nvidia delivers vista drivers, if I was running vista that is. They have a history of promising features that turn out crappy. Maybe they can send another viral marketer to announce that they have seen the fix. Same for ati of course.

Why aren't you running Vista?

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Creig let me ask you...how many guides have you post. Outside of your biased pompous attitude what have you done to help people in this forum. I'm certainly not without fault, but I have never seen a post where you are unbiased, and overall kind.

And for the record, I don't remember one time in my tenure here on these forums where I have "always been generally abusive and {I} seem to enjoy insulting people".

Hmmm... First you called me biased and pompous, then go on to say you're not abusive. Didn't take long for me to prove my point about that one.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Creig
DirectX10 compatibility is not a requirement for Vista Ready certification.

Ok, I fail to see how that solidifies your argument and detracts from mine. Quite the opposite actually.

???? We're talking about the requirements necessary to display a Vista Ready logo. Namely, Vista drivers. Which there aren't. DirectX10 has nothing to do with the minimum Microsoft Vista Ready requirements.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
The drivers have not been released yet. Therefore the card is Vista Capable and is merely awaiting drivers for an UNRELEASED OS. I don't know how many times we have to drill it into your head. As much as you argue "This person has it" or "This other person has it" Vista is not available to the public. You cannot purchase it. It is unreleased.

Come on, despite that you hate Nvidia, you cannot possibly hope to continue arguing this topic.

-Kevin

Well, if Nvidia wants to put a "Vista Capable" logo on their cards, that's fine. But as it stands, they DO NOT meet the requirements to display the "Vista Ready" logo as defined by Microsoft.

A Windows Vista Capable PC includes at least:

A modern processor (at least 800MHz1).
512 MB of system memory.
A graphics processor that is DirectX 9 capable.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/capable.mspx

A video card cannot be DirectX capable without a DirectX driver. Try playing a few DirectX games after uninstalling your driver sometime and see. It's necessary to have both installed in order for DirectX to function.

And no matter how many times you try to say it's unreleased because you can't run down to Best Buy and pluck one off the shelf, it's simply not true. It has been officially released to qualified subscribers. If Microsoft hadn't released the final build of Vista then nobody would have it. Vista hasn't been released to retailers yet, but it HAS been released.

Look, it's VERY simple:

Is the version of Vista available to Technet Plus and MSDN subscribers a legally purchased version of Vista? YES
Is an Nvidia driver available for 8800 series cards running under Vista? NO
As Vista is legally available and there are no Nvidia 8800 drivers available, is the 8800 Vista Ready? NO

If there had been no legal final version available until January 30th, then I would have agreed that Nvidia would be under no obligation to release drivers as Vista would have still been officially unreleased. But that is most obviously not the case.

Just because the number of people obtaining Vista through TechNet Plus and MSDN is much, much smaller than those who will obtain it through retail/OEM channels doesn't change the fact that Vista has been released to them. Legally. Directly from Microsoft themselves.

 

[Gamingphreek]

I can't believe I am continuing to waste my team with this...

First I guess I will address the personal insults:

you are ONE of the the MOST *pompus and biased* nvidia do-or-die- supporter on AFT Video is and you can clearly see it in your butt-kissing of ChrisRay.

I have never heard of Chris Ray before. I honestly have never spoken to the guy via forums or anything. I don't hate ATI...you want proof, I recommend them all the time. I recommended my Dad get a 9600XT at the time, in a recent thread I recommended them getting an X1900XT. Furthermore, I chose to get an HDTV Wonder from ATI. Now it would be nice if you would stop playing the witch hunt, your-a-fan-boy favoritism card and got a real argument.

Now back to this inane attack at a weak issue:

Yes it is. It is available through several legitimate channels and previously nVidia was claiming G80 is "Vista ready" with no quantifier. It was only after the public uproar they added the date on their website.

That it's not available in those places doesn't mean it's not available.

Rubbish.

By all means BFG, list them. I listed what 10 (At least) that didn't sell them. Outside of select MSDN subscribers, and Corporations you are not supposed to have a final version of Windows Vista.

You can argue that people do all you want, but there is a reason January 30 is a special day this year.

These people are running Vista and want Vista drivers for their product. Perhaps you should go in there and tell them they don't deserve drivers because they aren't a large business.

Ok PLEASE go back and read my post. I even capitalized Corporations so you wouldn't miss the word. Are any of those people representing a corporation....yeah I didn't think so. So therefore they are one of 3 things:
A.) A select few MSDN Subscibers
B.) Running a RC
C.) Have obtained an illegal retail version

Obviously they haven't accommodated anyone because there are no Vista drivers for G80. That's the problem, especially for people that invested a lot of money into such products on the basis they were running Vista and it was claimed the product was Vista ready.

Money works in mysterious ways. Any corporation can get things us lowly consumers get. Don't be so naieve....Hell by E-Mailing I'm sure the reviewers out there (Anand) could obtain an Alpha or Beta copy.

LOL, hardware has nothing to do with software, right?

I don't believe I ever said that. I said the software is capable of running an unreleased OS and an unreleased graphic API. The drivers are merely unreleased as well.

Except you can't be compliant or compatible without drivers.

THere are drivers for the card, they just aren't for Vista yet. With those drivers it has been proven that this card is capable of running DX9 applications.

I fail to see how this strawman has any relevance to G80 Vista drivers.

It wasn't an argument, it was merely a return answer to Creig's ad hominem argument.

 

[apoppin]

then stop posting if you feel you are "wasting time"

you speak for *no one* but yourself

 

[Cookie Monster]

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[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: apoppin
then stop posting if you feel you are "wasting time"

you speak for *no one* but yourself

Because I am not going to have my name trashed on this forum while I sit back and say I don't care.

There is a reason I post on these forums:
A.) Something I enjoy doing
B.) Something I know a lot about
C.) I like to help people

The reason I'm telling people in this thread to grow up; because they are inhibiting me from doing that. All they are doing is trying to create another flame thread, and sadly enough, it looks like they have succeeded.

-Kevin