Cookie Monster
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Originally posted by: pesho00
You guyes are very protective of Nvidia???
Fact1: Vista is Out
Fact2: 8800GTX is Out
Fact3: ANY Driver for Vista - MISSING
And Nvidia sholud be ashamed of such ignorant position, selling Very expensive hardware without ANY drivers for Vista (i'll be gald to have at least Beta)
And it is normal for a person who can afford it to try new stuff, i do not see why You are "attacking" him
Did you read what i posted.
And your definition of troll is what: anyone who doesn't share your unconditional support for Nvidia? You'd think the greatest driver team in the world would have vista drivers before some 2nd rate driver team that just got bought out by another company... :roll:
Originally posted by: pesho00
You guyes are very protective of Nvidia???
Fact1: Vista is Out
Fact2: 8800GTX is Out
Fact3: ANY Driver for Vista - MISSING
And Nvidia sholud be ashamed of such ignorant position, selling Very expensive hardware without ANY drivers for Vista (i'll be gald to have at least Beta)
And it is normal for a person who can afford it to try new stuff, i do not see why You are "attacking" him
I don't see why this hard for some to understand. Only Vista Enterprise for business has been released. What is the likelihood they would need an 8800GTX for business? :roll:
Workstations would have Quadro if anything. There are Vista drivers for those.
QFT. Dude, simple research would have figured out poor driver support for 8800series in XP not to mention poor support for Vista.
it was mentioned before - all IT stuff - espetialy executives like to have new gadjets on there desks and lets not forget so called "entusiast's"
And dont take me wrong i just mentione FACTS!
I clearly provided basis for my claim. If you don't think comments like "It (R600)will do nothing but kill it" and "8800GTX is a stupid kid really to be totally bashed and pawn" constitutes as trolling, then I question your judgement.
Nelsieus
The thread is about the lack of Vista drivers for the g80, and you're diverting attention from the thread topic with unrelated incendiary comments. Granted, it's not a huge issue (yet), but this is exactly how tRollo posted in threads about the 6-series purevideo debacle when it was an issue.
I clearly gave my response to the poster's inquiry, as did most other members, as they have ever since G80 released.
Also, I sincerely hope you aren't making any allegations, as I believe the mods of this board have strictly prohibitted that nature of "witch-hunting." I would have no problem reporting you, though, if that is indeed your motive. (and talk about diverting the thread :roll: )
Nelsieus
"We recognize that many GeForce 8800 customers are eager to use their new hardware with Windows Vista. We've received numerous questions from users, and we've seen your comments and complaints on the forums.
Due to rigorous testing requirements to ensure stability and optimal performance, Vista drivers for GeForce 8800 are still in QA. Our driver team and test labs must ensure compatibility across multiple platforms and hundreds of applications, a process that takes several weeks to complete. Please keep in mind that Windows Vista will not be available to end-users until the end of January. We'd like to assure you that Vista drivers for the GeForce 8800 will be available to download when Vista ships to end users at the end of January.
Thank you."
Cookie Monster
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Microsoft has started to market its new Vista operating system. It is being sold to business customers only right now; consumer availability will come at the end of January. Microsoft predicts that Vista will be the fastest-selling operating system to date. Windows Vista is two years late, and will miss the Christmas season. It, along with Office 2007, took five years to develop, along with $20 billion, and 10,000 workers.
Its not out to the normal consumers yet. Someone could email Microsoft and get the exact same answer.
G80 isn't Vista ready, because quite frankly, Vista isn't even ready, not until Jan. Your post clearly explains that:
"Please keep in mind that Windows Vista will not be available to end-users until the end of January."
So again, I don't see the reason to complain unless you're a business owner, or just looking to bash the green side.
This is really getting silly. I'm going to complain that my G80 can't run Crysis. And while Im at it, Im going to blame nVidia for not being able to run the pre-released WoW expansion I managed to get my hands on.
:roll:
BFG10K
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This is tottaly irrelevant to those already running legit copies of Vista.
Right, hence the false advertising by nVidia.
Vista is ready because the final build is shipping and is able to be acquired by legit means. That you don't run Vista doesn't change that fact.
The reason to complain would be if you're running Vista and you picked up a product that was claimed to be Vista ready on this basis.
A lot of those guys in that thread would've never picked up a G80 if they knew there were no Vista drivers and would've waited for R600 before making a decision. As it stands now many cards were purchased solely because of nVidia's "Vista ready" claim as said users are running Vista.
Again that you or the general public doesn't run Vista is irrelevant to their situation. The problem is nVidia's false "Vista ready" claim.
Crysis isn't finished or released; Vista is finished and is released.
It applies when the actual product it's ready for is available. That's not the case.
That doesn't mean it's available. There's a lot of things that are "ready" to be available, but that doesn't constitute immediate support until they are.
Again, Vista is only available to business owners. They have the right to complain. Any business owners here?
They knew fully well when they bought the hardware that there were no drivers at the time. It's not like nVidia put out fake drivers and lied about them being DX10 when they were not.
If they bought it solely because it was "Vista-ready," then good thing they still have another month and a half until they can get Vista.
No it's not. If a product isn't available, why should we expect support for it.
G70 and R520 were also marketed as Vista Ready, but perhaps you've forgotten. In fact, the only thing that's changed since then is the fact that Vista is now being manufactured (which is hardly a change compared to not being available).
But not available.
*Sigh
Nelsieus
schneiderguy
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why would you even buy a 8800gtx? according to you, they're stupid little kids ready to be squashed by the big bad R600
I believe that is the thread you are alleged of relations with the infamous Ackmed and Joker, and didn't like that comparison despite glaring similiarities.
But besides that, weren't you just accusing me of derailing the topic? If you're going to try and make a point, I guess it would be wise to avoid hypocracy / irony.
In any event, you really have made an effort to get off-topic, and I think that's uncalled for. Everyone else in this thread is intently discussing the actual topic, but you seem to want to make this a bashing thread.
Please stop or you'll be reported to the mods.
Thanks,
Nelsieus
Nelsieus, what happens if I'm a business owner with Vista and a G80? Now I have the right to complain and say that Nvidia used false advertising when I bought my 8800GTX, right?
How does the fact that I'm really not a business owner change the fact that they did that?
How does the fact that I'm really not a business owner change the fact that they did that?
BFG10K
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Except it is available.
The final build of Vista is available through several legitimate avenues.
Rubbish.
Utter rubbish; clearly you have not bothered to read any of the thread except for nVidia's marketing parroting which you swallowed very quickly.
Many of them bought the G80 precisely because nVidia claims it's Vista ready.
nVidia claims G80 is Vista ready but it's not because there are no Vista drivers for it. That's false advertising.
They have Vista now which is why they purchased G80 - on the basis of nVidia's claims that it was Vista ready - but now they find there are no Vista drivers because the card is not currently Vista ready.
What part of this are you having difficulty understanding?
But it is available.
Because nVidia claims their product is Vista ready hence we expect current driver support for Vista.
They are Vista ready because they have Vista drivers.
Perhaps you've forgotten G71/R520 have Vista drivers and are hence irrelevant to this discussion.
It is available through multiple legit means. We aren't talking about leaked or pirated betas here, we are talking about a final build.
thescreensavers
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Nothing as of yet, I'm sure you'll understand it by the fuss that will be created when they will be released...
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