I NEED VISTA DRIVERS FOR NVIDIA 8800GTX :!

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
In some respects I'm sure it is more stable. And I am very very sure it will become 99x more stable in the future. But as it stands right now, there are a lot of bugs and problems. Just look at the OS forum.

Bugs, yes. But you're talking about Vista as if it has some horrible stability problems and it's just not true.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
TO each his own, but when nobody has a WHQL driver out for it (NOT JUST NVIDIA CREIG), and the OS is having performance problems- it shouldn't be out on the market.

As jasonja pointed out, ATI does have WHQL certified drivers. Maybe you should research a subject more before blurting things out. You have a habit of doing that.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Tell me Creig, do you have something against Nvidia? Seriously, Apoppin and I have our difference but both of us can remain relatively unbiased. But you are a completely different animal (<-No offense just a phrase). Do you ever find fault in another company outside of Nvidia??

First of all, you're unbiased? Blaming Microsoft for Nvidia's inability to produce a Vista driver for their own product is unbiased? Nvidia is the one writing software for Microsoft, not the other way around. Secondly, I do find fault in other companies. It just so happens that Nvidia is the one that seems to make most of the controversial decisions. I find ATI's lack of ability to get their cards out in a timely manner disappointing, but that hardly stacks up to the string of Nvidia's headlines.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
They have drivers out. AMD has drivers out. Creative has drivers out. ALL are buggy, None are WHQL, none are final. Stop whining about a "Vista Ready" sticker and start discussing the topic at hand. You keep rehashing this old lame argument when it is over- Let it GO!

You were the one who brought up the subject again so I responded. If you don't like it, tough. Keep your "whining" comment to yourself. What exactly is the title of this thread again? Oh yes, "I NEED VISTA DRIVERS FOR NVIDIA 8800GTX:!". The "Vista Ready" sticker is directly related to that so it's very relevent to the discussion at hand. If you don't like it, don't post in this thread anymore. Personally, I'm getting tired of listening to you tell people they are "whining" about this or that. Try to stick to the subject at hand and keep the personal insults out of it.

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
IMO Vista was rushed. Again! I should never have to tell someone to "Wait" when a final product is released in reference to performance or bugs.

-Kevin

Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. My opinion is that Nvidia should have had a driver available for Vista as advertised on their box. And obviously I'm not the only one who feels the same.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Bugs, yes. But you're talking about Vista as if it has some horrible stability problems and it's just not true.

Well it has some serious problems in games and what not.

As jasonja pointed out, ATI does have WHQL certified drivers. Maybe you should research a subject more before blurting things out. You have a habit of doing that.

I don't believe it is your place to lecture me Creig. Everyone makes mistakes, and you of all people in this forum should be the last to lecture me. If you would read my post instead of immediately discounting everything I say, you would see that I apologized and corrected myself.

First of all, you're unbiased? Blaming Microsoft for Nvidia's inability to produce a Vista driver for their own product is unbiased? Nvidia is the one writing software for Microsoft, not the other way around. Secondly, I do find fault in other companies. It just so happens that Nvidia is the one that seems to make most of the controversial decisions. I find ATI's lack of ability to get their cards out in a timely manner disappointing, but that hardly stacks up to the string of Nvidia's headlines.

I'm pretty unbiased, as much as your ATI mind doesn't like to see it. Nvidia makes the most controversial decisions, because that is the way you see it. The fact is outside of ATI's WHQL drivers (Which are just as unstable and buggy as Nvidia's non WHQL drivers) EVERYONE has problems. They have problems because Vista introduces new standards in software design that IMO were rushed to the market.

Nvidia's string of headlines? So far I only can think of one. They have unstable beta drivers.

You were the one who brought up the subject again so I responded. If you don't like it, tough. Keep your "whining" comment to yourself. What exactly is the title of this thread again? Oh yes, "I NEED VISTA DRIVERS FOR NVIDIA 8800GTX:!". The "Vista Ready" sticker is directly related to that so it's very relevent to the discussion at hand. If you don't like it, don't post in this thread anymore. Personally, I'm getting tired of listening to you tell people they are "whining" about this or that. Try to stick to the subject at hand and keep the personal insults out of it.

No no, I said "Let this thread die and asked why it was bumped". Then YOU, yes you (Good old faultless you Creig) decided to bring up the fact that Vista Business was predicted to have the most sales against my opinion much earlier in the thread.

You are whining. "Oh it says Vista Ready, but it is unstable"...would you like the wahmbulance to come and pick you up? It is clearly Vista Ready as it is running it! That is why you need to stop rehashing the old topics because lets face it Creig, YOU are the only one still arguing that pointless thing. Everyone else has decided to agree to disagree.

Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. My opinion is that Nvidia should have had a driver available for Vista as advertised on their box. And obviously I'm not the only one who feels the same.

And apparently I'm not the only person who feels that Vista was rushed. SO there agree to disagree.

-Kevin

 

[Creig]

Whatever you say, KeNvin.

 

[chizow]

Heh, some things never change.

nVidia doesn't even have problem free drivers yet for XP for the 8-series, expecting something remotely close to solid for Vista was a stretch. I bought the 8800 GTS anyways knowing this, but so far the performance has outweighed any negatives. Btw, for those that can look beyond the label on the GPU, try and remember how long it took for ATI to get decent drivers out for the R300.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: chizow
Heh, some things never change.

nVidia doesn't even have problem free drivers yet for XP for the 8-series, expecting something remotely close to solid for Vista was a stretch. I bought the 8800 GTS anyways knowing this, but so far the performance has outweighed any negatives. Btw, for those that can look beyond the label on the GPU, try and remember how long it took for ATI to get decent drivers out for the R300.

how long?


it was the 8500 that took over a year

and *yes* it is COMMON to new GPUs ... and especially 'more so' with brand new OSes and new HW

cut 'em some slack
:Q

 

[chizow]

Took the 9700pro at least 3 months to get some decent drivers

Released in September 02, I didn't pick one up until January 03 with the first "Catalyst" drivers.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: chizow
Took the 9700pro at least 3 months to get some decent drivers

Released in September 02, I didn't pick one up until January 03 with the first "Catalyst" drivers.

that is actually pretty decent

the 8500 was a driver *disaster* ... and yet it finally caught up with the ti4200 ... after a year

i really think the OP was just ... well ...


. . . how IS it going with your 2 GTXes, tuteja1986?

haven't heard from you back here ... in days

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Creig
Whatever you say, KeNvin.

Is your only argument baseless accusations accusing me of being with Nvidia? Seriously Creig what basis do you have. Do you want me to senselessly support ATI for no reason.

Seriously Creig how about getting a real argument instead of a senseless ad hominem argument.

nVidia doesn't even have problem free drivers yet for XP for the 8-series

Last I checked they did. Their only problem was with Vista. I thought.

-Kevin

 

[apoppin]

it might be *awhile*

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTI3NCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

[H-]Vista is here and NVIDIA does not have a WHQL driver for their high-end GPUs. So when exactly should we expect to see a WHQL driver? According to what NVIDIA told us yesterday and verified today, 8800 owners could be waiting a good while for DX10 support for single 8800 GPU configurations.

[nv] NVIDIA is working very closely with Microsoft to finalize the WHQL certified DirectX 10 driver. Both companies are working together to ensure that the driver is certified and delivered to customers as soon as possible. The current estimate is near the end of Feb for G80 WHQL.

[H-]When digging a bit deeper and asking for dates as to when we should see 8800 SLI WHQL drivers for Vista, which I think should have been a minimum requirement for Vista?s launch, this is what NVIDIA had to say:

[nv]The driver we are working on for end of Feb for G80 WHQL will support DirectX 9 and OpenGL SLI.

[H-]So from what we are being told NVIDIA will not even hint to DX10 8800 SLI GPU support even being on a time horizon they are willing to estimate.

NVIDIA did close our email conversation with this statement.

[nv]NVIDIA has placed a top priority on supporting our customers. NVIDIA will continue to work diligently on optimizing its Windows Vista drivers to ensure maximum performance on 3D applications through continuous driver updates. Our reputation for world-class support speaks for itself.

it speaks *volumes*
:Q


actually i am really *surprised* they are that far behind
:shocked: