I just found another program we can cut from the budget.

[SammyJr]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Yet Obama and the Democrat congress can't seem to find a single dime to cut other than from defense. There is no reason to have the deficit that we do, but our new socialist overlords refuse to cut the spending.

Defense is among the biggest pieces of the pie and there is plenty of fat.

 

[spittledip]

I don't see the need for this program. People survived without cell phones before they were invented and without landline phones before they were invented. Why do people need cell phones? I don't even own one b/c it is an unnecessary expense... and I don't like the idea of being pestered all the time by people calling me on the phone.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Yet Obama and the Democrat congress can't seem to find a single dime to cut other than from defense. There is no reason to have the deficit that we do, but our new socialist overlords refuse to cut the spending.

He said.

(Having never looked at the Federal Budget)

 

[Ichigo]

Originally posted by: spittledip
I don't see the need for this program. People survived without cell phones before they were invented and without landline phones before they were invented. Why do people need cell phones? I don't even own one b/c it is an unnecessary expense... and I don't like the idea of being pestered all the time by people calling me on the phone.

People also survived without toilets or a sewage system.

See you in the bushes!

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Yet Obama and the Democrat congress can't seem to find a single dime to cut other than from defense. There is no reason to have the deficit that we do, but our new socialist overlords refuse to cut the spending.

Our defense spending dwarfs every nation on earth. It needs to be cut *a lot* more. Thanks for once again proving what a moron/hack/troll you are.

WWYBYWB anyway?

 

[JSt0rm]

Well i cant speak to this article but I know that battered women are now being given cellphones so they are able to call 911. I don't know how much government money goes into this program but I don't see it as waist.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: spittledip
I don't see the need for this program. People survived without cell phones before they were invented and without landline phones before they were invented. Why do people need cell phones? I don't even own one b/c it is an unnecessary expense... and I don't like the idea of being pestered all the time by people calling me on the phone.

Seriously? I witnessed a serious accident yesterday afternoon. I had a 911 dispatcher on the line within 15 seconds. Police arrived in < 5 and ambulance shortly after.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: spittledip
I don't see the need for this program. People survived without cell phones before they were invented and without landline phones before they were invented. Why do people need cell phones? I don't even own one b/c it is an unnecessary expense... and I don't like the idea of being pestered all the time by people calling me on the phone.

Seriously? I witnessed a serious accident yesterday afternoon. I had a 911 dispatcher on the line within 15 seconds. Police arrived in < 5 and ambulance shortly after.

Cell phones are useful, however, if you want one, you pay for it yourself! Is that not a hard concept to understand?

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: spittledip
I don't see the need for this program. People survived without cell phones before they were invented and without landline phones before they were invented. Why do people need cell phones? I don't even own one b/c it is an unnecessary expense... and I don't like the idea of being pestered all the time by people calling me on the phone.

Seriously? I witnessed a serious accident yesterday afternoon. I had a 911 dispatcher on the line within 15 seconds. Police arrived in < 5 and ambulance shortly after.

I think you just proved the point. If you are paying for your own cell phone service, there is no need for the government to do it. Besides you can call 911 from any cell phone even if its not activated. Pick up someone's old one they are going to throw away. Done.

 

[SammyJr]

Originally posted by: spittledip
I don't see the need for this program. People survived without cell phones before they were invented and without landline phones before they were invented. Why do people need cell phones? I don't even own one b/c it is an unnecessary expense... and I don't like the idea of being pestered all the time by people calling me on the phone.

Society evolved. How are these people supposed to get communication about jobs? Smoke signals?

 

[Modelworks]

This is nothing new and may be better for the taxpayer.
One of the companies doing it is here:
https://www.safelinkwireless.com/

I enrolled someone in it a few days ago.
What do they get ?
A cell phone, cheap $14.95 version tracfone + 68 minutes of air time per month.
That is it.
Total cost to taxpayers about $30 to start service and about $6 a month in minutes.
Compare that to the lifeline service for landlines that has been out for almost 20 years that cost $14 a month + taxes, averaging about $20 a month to taxpayers.

They can only sign up for one or the other, not both.
$6 is way better than $20

Also realize that the people that get this service have very low income. The person I signed up gets a total of $648 a month.

 

[JSt0rm]

so this program saves money! lol. Self pwned OP congrats. You get to join the ranks of such class as PJ and Winnar.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: loki8481
awesome edit in the OP too, nice to just cut out the part about the person in question being disabled.

What difference does that make? Why does a disabled person have a right to a free cell phone on my dime? I'm going to be disabled when my head explodes from reading about all of the creative ways the government has found to give away money that it doesn't even have.

The person I signed up worked for over 45 years, she is 78 now and paid into social security the entire time. She now gets the benefit of a massive $648 social security + medicare that cost her $89 every month out of that $648. We shouldn't help people like this though, lets just kill them since they are a drain on your pocket.

 

[SunSamurai]

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic

Originally posted by: Robor
Did not read (article requires registration)

Anyway, common sense tells me you actually have to be 'poor' to qualify and I'm guessing they're intended to be used for emergency.

You don't need a service provider or minutes to call 911.

Yet you still need a cellphone.

 

[tk149]

AT Hot Deals thread

From Safelink's website:

How to Qualify
The process to qualify for Lifeline Service depends on the State you live in. In general, you may qualify if...

You already participate in other State or Federal assistance program such as Federal Public Housing Assistance, Food Stamps and Medicaid.
OR
Your total household income is at or below 135% of the poverty guidelines set by your State and/or the Federal Government.
AND
No one in your household currently receives Lifeline Service through another phone carrier.
You have a valid United States Postal Address. In order for us to ship you your free phone you must live at a residence that can receive mail from the US Post Office. Sorry, but P.O. Boxes cannot be accepted.
In addition to meeting the guidelines above you will also be required to provide proof of your participation in an assistance program, or proof of your income level.

This program applies to more than just disabled people.

A cellphone is not a right. It's a luxury.

Anyone can get a cellphone for cheap or free from a recycling center for dialing 911. All cellphones can call 911 for free.

So why do people need 68 minutes per month?

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: spittledip
I don't see the need for this program. People survived without cell phones before they were invented and without landline phones before they were invented. Why do people need cell phones? I don't even own one b/c it is an unnecessary expense... and I don't like the idea of being pestered all the time by people calling me on the phone.

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Please do not give me that shit, true tale, my mother had her gut rupture and when she tried to use her landline phone to call, for help, it turns out a squirrel chewed through her land line phone line, she ended up crawling to a neighbor house over a block away, running a high fever all the way, to get help. She survived the emergency operation, but you don't even want to know the kind of medicaid bills she racks up each year, year after year, because she could not get help when she needed it.

And if you don't want to get incoming calls on your cell phone, do what I do, don't turn the cell phone on unless you want to make an outgoing phone call, and don't set up a voice mail box. There is even a do not call list for cell phone numbers now to stop telemarketers using cell phone numbers, just call 1-800-call fcc to find the number to call.

 

[Pepsei]

Cell phone is way cheaper than a landline.

 

[jpeyton]

Maybe someone can help me; I searched and couldn't find it myself.

I wanted to find the thread where Hacp complains about the $500,000,000,000/year defense budget.

TIA

 

[sandorski]

Many are fixating on the Cellphone=Priviledge. If it's cheaper than a Landline, then it's not a "Priviledge", it's simply more Cost Effective.

 

[spittledip]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: spittledip
I don't see the need for this program. People survived without cell phones before they were invented and without landline phones before they were invented. Why do people need cell phones? I don't even own one b/c it is an unnecessary expense... and I don't like the idea of being pestered all the time by people calling me on the phone.

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Please do not give me that shit, true tale, my mother had her gut rupture and when she tried to use her landline phone to call, for help, it turns out a squirrel chewed through her land line phone line, she ended up crawling to a neighbor house over a block away, running a high fever all the way, to get help. She survived the emergency operation, but you don't even want to know the kind of medicaid bills she racks up each year, year after year, because she could not get help when she needed it.

What in the world are you talking about??!?!?

 

[spittledip]

All you people confuse need with convenience. Just b/c you can call for an ambulance faster doesn't make it a need. I have yet to NEED a cell phone. I never will NEED a cell phone. The chances of me getting into a situation where my life or someone else's depend upon the use of a cell phone are very very low.

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: spittledip

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: spittledip
I don't see the need for this program. People survived without cell phones before they were invented and without landline phones before they were invented. Why do people need cell phones? I don't even own one b/c it is an unnecessary expense... and I don't like the idea of being pestered all the time by people calling me on the phone.

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Please do not give me that shit, true tale, my mother had her gut rupture and when she tried to use her landline phone to call, for help, it turns out a squirrel chewed through her land line phone line, she ended up crawling to a neighbor house over a block away, running a high fever all the way, to get help. She survived the emergency operation, but you don't even want to know the kind of medicaid bills she racks up each year, year after year, because she could not get help when she needed it.

What in the world are you talking about??!?!?

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Spiddledip asks what am I talking about?????????????????

Sadly, its my daily reality and a true story, and cheer up spiddledip, because my MOM was unable to get help when she needed it, and is on medicare, your tax payer funds are helping to fund the 3K/wk it now costs to keep her alive. They just put her back in the hospital today due to complications due to that emergency operation 15 years ago, and if timely help had been available then, none of this would of been necessary.

Now that she is back in a hospital, its probably more like 6K a week.

Preventive medicine is ever so much more cost effective, and you advocate saving $50.00
a year and then spending $150K/yr to fix the fuck up. Sad to say, that is the present reality, in just one case, multiply that times all the other similar cases and you can award yourself the stooge of the decade award.

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: loki8481
awesome edit in the OP too, nice to just cut out the part about the person in question being disabled.

What difference does that make? Why does a disabled person have a right to a free cell phone on my dime? I'm going to be disabled when my head explodes from reading about all of the creative ways the government has found to give away money that it doesn't even have.

Seriously, it costs the government next to nothing for these phones, and people on disability have a fixed income which doesn't always allow them to have what they may consider frivolous spending.

If one of these phones can prevent one high cost emergency room runs they could probably pay for an entire states phone bills for at least a year.

Do you know how cheap a basic phone with 65 minutes is? I could get a tracfone for >10 with that kind of plan. Plus the government has massive buying power, and this looks like a good will act to the cell phone companies so there is more incentive to keep costs down.

That's great. Since a tracphone is so cheap, you won't mind getting the monthly bill for all 1.5 million users.

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Robor
Did not read (article requires registration)

Anyway, common sense tells me you actually have to be 'poor' to qualify and I'm guessing they're intended to be used for emergency.

I'm sure my dad didn't "intend" for me to take his car out when i was 17 and see at what speed the electronic governor kicked in, but I did. You can bet your sweet ass people are abusing this.

from the article:

To be eligible for the program, known as Lifeline, a person must meet federal low-income guidelines or qualify for one of a handful of social service programs, including food stamps or Medicaid.

awesome edit in the OP too, nice to just cut out the part about the person in question being disabled.

Like I said, you can bet people are abusing it, just as they do food stamps, etc. There will always be abusers for social programs. It's one thing with food, but nobody needs a cell phone anyway.

Same with wheelchairs...they could just crawl along in the dirt, saving taxpayer $$$$.

Nice one. Didn't know that cellphones had wheels and allowed disabled people to move around on their own.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: brandonbull

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: loki8481
awesome edit in the OP too, nice to just cut out the part about the person in question being disabled.

What difference does that make? Why does a disabled person have a right to a free cell phone on my dime? I'm going to be disabled when my head explodes from reading about all of the creative ways the government has found to give away money that it doesn't even have.

Seriously, it costs the government next to nothing for these phones, and people on disability have a fixed income which doesn't always allow them to have what they may consider frivolous spending.

If one of these phones can prevent one high cost emergency room runs they could probably pay for an entire states phone bills for at least a year.

Do you know how cheap a basic phone with 65 minutes is? I could get a tracfone for >10 with that kind of plan. Plus the government has massive buying power, and this looks like a good will act to the cell phone companies so there is more incentive to keep costs down.

That's great. Since a tracphone is so cheap, you won't mind getting the monthly bill for all 1.5 million users.

Our nation has created a segment of weasels and called them citizens.