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I HATE CAMPUS CRUSADE!!

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Originally posted by: Connoisseur
Originally posted by: HotChic
1. She wasn't trying to "force" you to do anything. If you had said "no thanks" and walked away, there's a darn good chance she would have left you alone.

2. Know that from her perspective, she's doing something nice. If you find her intent to be of any value, she intended well.

3. I didn't see any arrogance in what she said to you - she talked about her reasons for thinking her religion was correct. I don't see that she put your religion or any other down in any way. In fact, you're doing more putting down than she did.
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Furthermore, I personally thought it was arrogant of her to come up to me. Once again, going back to the cook analogy. Let's say we both made apple pie: I like mine, and you like yours. But then I tell you, out of the blue, that you should make your apple pie just like mine because mine is the best way to make it, wouldn't that be arrogant of me? If cooking isn't your strong suite, then just picture any other situation which you WOULD feel strongly about.
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So why didn't you just pull something up as a dismissal, be it from the nice:

"Thanks, but I'm happy with my faith, gonna be late for class. Bye."

Right down to the Bonobo Ape style:

"F*** the hell off, (insert racist epithets and profanity) you (repeat as necessary)" (throw feces)

There's a pretty big scale in there, and you couldn't pick just one telloff? 😛

- M4H
 
yeah you're probably right. I shoulda just told her to f*** off. Ehh if she ever comes up to me again, that's what i'm gonna do. Unless she offers to sleep with me... then i'll just buy some earplugs.
 
Originally posted by: bluewall21
Yeah, I'm Hindu too, and the constant barrage of religion recruitment is really annoying. I feel for you.
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same here, i hate all this crusade bullshit
 
Originally posted by: Connoisseur
yeah you're probably right. I shoulda just told her to f*** off. Ehh if she ever comes up to me again, that's what i'm gonna do. Unless she offers to sleep with me... then i'll just buy some earplugs.
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dude, this thread is not complete without a :camera: of the girl!
 
Campus Crusade tried "bringing to the fold" a little too hard during my freshman year to the point of harassment. They were kicked from campus and told not too come back.
 
Originally posted by: DigDug
They are arrogant freaks. They believe in a religion that has a built-in superiority complex. Is it any wonder that the worlds turmoil is a product of fighting among the Abrahamic religions? The world would be better without Chrisitianity and Islam.
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:roll: And Judaism too? Do you think the world would be better without the Jews? :roll:

Before you take offense to my statement, stop and think just how prejudicial and bigoted DigDug's statement was. Is there a difference? I think not. Bigotry is bigotry. It is nothing but hypocracy to see one form as offensive but another as completely acceptable.


But yes, I find proselytizing religious people of any religion to be annoying. However, the OP's problem began and ended when he couldn't find the balls to politely say, "Thank you but I am not interested." I mean, c'mon... 45 minutes? That's pathetic. Unless she had a gun to his head, the OP has no excuse for not just walking away. None.

Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge
Campus Crusade tried "bringing to the fold" a little too hard during my freshman year to the point of harassment. They were kicked from campus and told not too come back.
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Restricting free speech to one group is no different than restricting free speech to every group. Is this a government funded school by chance?
 
Originally posted by: DigDug
They are arrogant freaks. They believe in a religion that has a built-in superiority complex. Is it any wonder that the worlds turmoil is a product of fighting among the Abrahamic religions? The world would be better without Chrisitianity and Islam.
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Good point, but the thought of Judaism makes me want to grab my nads and cringe in pain.
 
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: DigDug
They are arrogant freaks. They believe in a religion that has a built-in superiority complex. Is it any wonder that the worlds turmoil is a product of fighting among the Abrahamic religions? The world would be better without Chrisitianity and Islam.
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Good point, but the thought of Judaism makes me want to grab my nads and cringe in pain.
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So do you think Hitler screwed up when he didn't finish the job? After all, you're basically agreeing that the world would be better off without them...
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: DigDug
They are arrogant freaks. They believe in a religion that has a built-in superiority complex. Is it any wonder that the worlds turmoil is a product of fighting among the Abrahamic religions? The world would be better without Chrisitianity and Islam.
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Good point, but the thought of Judaism makes me want to grab my nads and cringe in pain.
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So do you think Hitler screwed up when he didn't finish the job? After all, you're basically agreeing that the world would be better off without them...
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Godwin's Law ... so close ... 😀

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: DigDug
They are arrogant freaks. They believe in a religion that has a built-in superiority complex. Is it any wonder that the worlds turmoil is a product of fighting among the Abrahamic religions? The world would be better without Chrisitianity and Islam.
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Good point, but the thought of Judaism makes me want to grab my nads and cringe in pain.
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So do you think Hitler screwed up when he didn't finish the job? After all, you're basically agreeing that the world would be better off without them...
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Godwin's Law ... so close ... 😀

- M4H
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Now now... pointing that Godwin's Law was invoked is just as bad as actually invoking it. 😉

Seriously though, it's one thing to be against religion, but to say that the world would be better off without religious people... that's going too far IMO.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: DigDug
They are arrogant freaks. They believe in a religion that has a built-in superiority complex. Is it any wonder that the worlds turmoil is a product of fighting among the Abrahamic religions? The world would be better without Chrisitianity and Islam.
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Good point, but the thought of Judaism makes me want to grab my nads and cringe in pain.
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So do you think Hitler screwed up when he didn't finish the job? After all, you're basically agreeing that the world would be better off without them...
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eh, what?
 
Now now, no religion bashing. Like I said, I have no problem with Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism or any other religion. I just hate those specific people who feel the need to convert me. The reason I got into the argument was mostly because I felt in an argumentative mood and wanted to delay my transit to class.. but after I had felt that the argument was pointless, it was mostly because I didn't have balls. Oh well, live and learn. If she talks to me again, i'll tell her to f**k off.
 
Originally posted by: Connoisseur
Originally posted by: HotChic
1. She wasn't trying to "force" you to do anything. If you had said "no thanks" and walked away, there's a darn good chance she would have left you alone.

2. Know that from her perspective, she's doing something nice. If you find her intent to be of any value, she intended well.

3. I didn't see any arrogance in what she said to you - she talked about her reasons for thinking her religion was correct. I don't see that she put your religion or any other down in any way. In fact, you're doing more putting down than she did.
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The "putting down" is implied. If you have two cooks and one says "i'm the best", it implies that the other cook is inferior regardless of whether or not the first cook directly insulted the latter. Second of all, she said "Jesus said that HE's the only way to god." (this is almost an exact quote). It implies a moral superiority and it also implies that i'm going to hell. If she meant well, I would rather she asked "Do you believe in your god?" and left it at that. My personal belief is that faith is faith and living a good life will get you to wherever you want to go, regardless of religion. I told her those exact words and she said something to the effect of: "Well sure, it's good that you have faith. But Jesus talks directly to God. In fact, he is God. So talking to Jesus is the only way of communicating with God." This is the part that angered me the most. And no, I didn't make any of that up. It's what she said.

::Edit:: I found it kinda humorous when she said that people of all religions attend her church to pray. Jews, Hindus, Muslims... and even atheists.
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So she told you what she thinks and you told her what you think... and she's the bad guy?
 
Yeah she did. But I didn't ask for her opinion. And the way she put it made it sound like I was just plain WRONG in believing in something other that christianity.
 
Originally posted by: iamme
45 minutes??

didn't you say you were walking to class?

the problem seems to be that you can't say, "no thanks" and walk away.
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Ditto... this is a free country and someone invited you to a conversation. I somehow missed the part of them putting handcuffs on you and not letting you leave.

This is a free country, Freedom of speech includes teh freedom to share your religious views. You can agree or not agree, but don't bitch and moan about a conversation that you gave yourself into.

Have a nice day!
 
I can't believe so many are blaming the OP here. This crap shouldn't be tolerated, and certainly wouldn't be if it were anything but christianity being preached by these convertamatic idiots. Gotta love a double standard, eh? Not really surprising in a society whose majority follows the most hypocritical religion in the world :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Gurck
I can't believe so many are blaming the OP here. This crap shouldn't be tolerated, and certainly wouldn't be if it were anything but christianity being preached by these convertamatic idiots. Gotta love a double standard, eh? Not really surprising in a society whose majority follows the most hypocritical religion in the world :roll:
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No matter what you think your worthless opinion is worth, those religious people have a right to do what they do. For you to have the audacity to claim that those people should not be tolerated is far, far worse than anything those religious folks have done on campus.

Those 'crusaders' have every right to practice their faith just as much as the OP had the right to say "No" and walk away.

The only feeling of hypocirsy here is you implying that they can not have their freedoms, but you should have yours.
 
45 minutes? At "are you Christian?," I would have said "yes," "no," or whatever else I felt like saying at the moment, like maybe "get a life." Then I would have turned away briskly and started walking. (It's the exact same treatment I give to panhandlers when they start a spiel on me.)
 
Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: Gurck
I can't believe so many are blaming the OP here. This crap shouldn't be tolerated, and certainly wouldn't be if it were anything but christianity being preached by these convertamatic idiots. Gotta love a double standard, eh? Not really surprising in a society whose majority follows the most hypocritical religion in the world :roll:
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No matter what you think your worthless opinion is worth, those religious people have a right to do what they do. For you to have the audacity to claim that those people should not be tolerated is far, far worse than anything those religious folks have done on campus.

Those 'crusaders' have every right to practice their faith just as much as the OP had the right to say "No" and walk away.

The only feeling of hypocirsy here is you implying that they can not have their freedoms, but you should have yours.
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No, I don't go around preaching atheism because it's rude and I wouldn't expect others to have to put up with it. Further, I know it wouldn't be put up with if I did - nor would preaching any other non-christian religion. As I said, people just love hiding behind a double standard.
 
I'm a christian, but the last thing you'll see me do is try to convert others.

The most I'll say is that God loves you and he'll be there for you if you decide to join him.

edit: just to note. i do believe that the chinese girl you encountered is doing it wrong.

Talk about pressure!
 
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