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I HATE CAMPUS CRUSADE!!

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Ehh, she was ok. She didn't LOOK Korean or Japanese; she looked Chinese. I generally notice the small differences too because I'm on a campus that's roughly 75% Indian or East Asian. No I didn't start this thread just to tell people I go to rutgers. I just wanted to let off some steam. And I wasted 45 minutes because I was hoping to piss her off; didn't work.

Also, I have absolutely NO problem with Christianity. Personally, I believe that, at it's core, it gives a great message (love your fellow man, respect life etc. etc.). Of course... so does every other religion in the world (Judaism, Hinduism, Buddhism etc.). I just HATE those nuts that take it upon themselves to prove that THEIR religion is the "correct" religion. Take a lesson from all the other religions. Live and let live. If you FEEL that one religion is better than another, stick with that religion and leave everybody else alone.
 
Also I don't see how this can start a flame war. I'm merely stating I hate douchebags. A universal sentiment, I'd hope.
 
i've done on campus evangelism before. if you don't want to talk its not a big deal just say no thanks. no one wants to force anything on anyone. i've met people that don't want to talk about it. i respect that. no big deal. deceiving her into thinking you were interested for 45 minutes and then ranting about it here wasn't really necessary. don't hate, its not good for your health. 🙂
 
Yeah I hate that shit. People walk around camps with shirts with big bold letters that say ask me about jesus. I think the style of religion that kids are taking these days is completely messed up. At school people try and pressure you into it with their nice little smiles, but to me it seems like a cult. Totally sick of their unwillingness to cooperate and listen to me.
 
Originally posted by: udonoogen
i've done on campus evangelism before. if you don't want to talk its not a big deal just say no thanks. no one wants to force anything on anyone. i've met people that don't want to talk about it. i respect that. no big deal. deceiving her into thinking you were interested for 45 minutes and then ranting about it here wasn't really necessary. don't hate, its not good for your health. 🙂
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Ahh evangelism, that's the word I couldn't remember. In either case, evangelism is just like telemarketing. Sure, you can tell me to just say "i'm not interested" and just hang up and it sounds so simple; but it still pisses me off a bit. It wasn't so much the time wasted as it was the fact that she just randomly came up to me and tried to convert me. I don't care if it's forceful or not but for crap's sake why do it in the first place? When I went back to the dorm, my friend told me that the same girl had tried to convert him a couple years ago. He thought she was interested in him but when he found out she was just trying to Christianize him, he cursed her out. We're really debating sending her pics of him skinning and gutting a wolf carcass in his bio class and passing it off as a satanic ritual...

Also, I missed the first half hour of the class. I didn't really care cause it was damn boring.
 
Originally posted by: dudeman007
Yeah I hate that shit. People walk around camps with shirts with big bold letters that say ask me about jesus. I think the style of religion that kids are taking these days is completely messed up. At school people try and pressure you into it with their nice little smiles, but to me it seems like a cult. Totally sick of their unwillingness to cooperate and listen to me.
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Get a t-shirt made that says:

If God existed, he would be very angry at you for bothering me about him. Don't speak, just leave me alone. Really.
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Why would you hate someone who's trying to help you? Her intentions are benevolent, regardless of how you feel about her religion or her methods.
 
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: dudeman007
Yeah I hate that shit. People walk around camps with shirts with big bold letters that say ask me about jesus. I think the style of religion that kids are taking these days is completely messed up. At school people try and pressure you into it with their nice little smiles, but to me it seems like a cult. Totally sick of their unwillingness to cooperate and listen to me.
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Get a t-shirt made that says:

If God existed, he would be very angry at you for bothering me about him. Don't speak, just leave me alone. Really.
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:thumbsup:

hahaha
 
maybe one day some people will mature and realize if you just say" no thanks, not interested" and continue on your way then you wont have to suffer this awful mental anguish. its worked every time for me.

the moment you stop and try to debate and tell them how wrong they are is the moment you become a hypocrite and engage in the same activities that you so hate.
 
I feel your pain. They bother me quite a bit at school too. One day I was eating alone at the oncampus subway and one of them just sat right at my table and proceeded to preach to me. It turned out he didn't even go to my school, but went to some christian college 30 miles away. Every Wed a group of them would come to our campus and try to get converts or whatever.

In a way they are like salesmen trying to sell Christ. I think many of them probably don't even want to do it but it is part of their church/clubs requirements. Kinda like they have a quota to fill or something.

I think the best way to avoid them is to always be with a friend/classmate as they tend to prey on loners. Or just get in the habit of being rude to every stranger that tries to approach you, just keep walking and say NOT INTERESTED loudly.
 
Originally posted by: DeafeningSilence
Why would you hate someone who's trying to help you? Her intentions are benevolent, regardless of how you feel about her religion or her methods.
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Because I think it's one of the worst ways to go about trying to "help" me. Trying to convert me isn't benevolent. It's trying to overthrow my beliefs. The Romans did the same damn thing.
 
Originally posted by: ConnoisseurI HATE Campus Crusade and all those other religious people (not just Christian) who feel the need to try and make you convert. These are the types of people that give their respective religions a bad name. Christianity I think is the worst of these religions cause their members are the most active on my campus as far as trying to "recruit" people. If you know anybody who's in one of these groups PLEASE PLEASE, give them a swift kick in the nuts. If they're female, just kick em in the @$$. If any of the aforementioned groups are listening:I hate you people with a passion. YOU make my life less happy. You idiots just can't learn to live and let live.
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So it's their fault that you're too stupid to realise you can just walk away?

You could have just walked away as soon as the girl mentioned religion and conversion and it would have ended right there.

Ahh, but that would have been the logical and mature thing to do and you wouldn't have gotten to feel so utterly superior with this little whiny child rant.

ZV
 
I once got roped into one of these and, having had enough, I just turned around and ran away as fast as I could while she was in mid-sentence and I didn't look back. I wonder if she noticed I left or maybe she just continued talking until her spiel was over.
 
1. She wasn't trying to "force" you to do anything. If you had said "no thanks" and walked away, there's a darn good chance she would have left you alone.

2. Know that from her perspective, she's doing something nice. If you find her intent to be of any value, she intended well.

3. I didn't see any arrogance in what she said to you - she talked about her reasons for thinking her religion was correct. I don't see that she put your religion or any other down in any way. In fact, you're doing more putting down than she did.
 
This is definitely something that you have to go through to understand for all you people who say she's "trying to help"
 
Originally posted by: HotChic
1. She wasn't trying to "force" you to do anything. If you had said "no thanks" and walked away, there's a darn good chance she would have left you alone.

2. Know that from her perspective, she's doing something nice. If you find her intent to be of any value, she intended well.

3. I didn't see any arrogance in what she said to you - she talked about her reasons for thinking her religion was correct. I don't see that she put your religion or any other down in any way. In fact, you're doing more putting down than she did.
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The "putting down" is implied. If you have two cooks and one says "i'm the best", it implies that the other cook is inferior regardless of whether or not the first cook directly insulted the latter. Second of all, she said "Jesus said that HE's the only way to god." (this is almost an exact quote). It implies a moral superiority and it also implies that i'm going to hell. If she meant well, I would rather she asked "Do you believe in your god?" and left it at that. My personal belief is that faith is faith and living a good life will get you to wherever you want to go, regardless of religion. I told her those exact words and she said something to the effect of: "Well sure, it's good that you have faith. But Jesus talks directly to God. In fact, he is God. So talking to Jesus is the only way of communicating with God." This is the part that angered me the most. And no, I didn't make any of that up. It's what she said.

::Edit:: I found it kinda humorous when she said that people of all religions attend her church to pray. Jews, Hindus, Muslims... and even atheists.
 
Originally posted by: HotChic
1. She wasn't trying to "force" you to do anything. If you had said "no thanks" and walked away, there's a darn good chance she would have left you alone.

2. Know that from her perspective, she's doing something nice. If you find her intent to be of any value, she intended well.

3. I didn't see any arrogance in what she said to you - she talked about her reasons for thinking her religion was correct. I don't see that she put your religion or any other down in any way. In fact, you're doing more putting down than she did.
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Furthermore, I personally thought it was arrogant of her to come up to me. Once again, going back to the cook analogy. Let's say we both made apple pie: I like mine, and you like yours. But then I tell you, out of the blue, that you should make your apple pie just like mine because mine is the best way to make it, wouldn't that be arrogant of me? If cooking isn't your strong suite, then just picture any other situation which you WOULD feel strongly about.
 
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