I don't understand why Android tablet manufacturers are failing

[runawayprisoner]

Boosting dynamic range? you mean like HDR screens? We'll just see what the contrast ratio on that screen is... I'm guessing we wont have an issue seeing the shadows vs. highlights...

Sorry, it was color gamut that I meant.

I just read up on it, and it seems Apple specifically stated "color gamut" instead of "saturation", so now I'm sure it's boosting color gamut rather than just pushing numbers up. That won't clip colors, but will give the image a very vibrant look.

 

[zsdersw]

Watch out, you don't want to get sucked into the reality distortion field the apple haters create

... says a consistent Apple cheerleader who also, consistently, gets warnings/infractions.

 

[smartpatrol]

Wow, talk about sour grapes.

Apple has a reputation for releasing very high-quality, polished, intuitive products. They very rarely release "pieces of shit". It's no wonder people get excited when they announce new products.

I guess Apple users just lack the enormous brains required to appreciate the dozens of me-too Honeycomb tablets. That must be it.

 

[zsdersw]

I guess Apple users just lack the enormous brains required to appreciate the dozens of me-too Honeycomb tablets. That must be it.

I don't appreciate any of the Honeycomb tablets anymore than you do.

 

[alent1234]

Wow, talk about sour grapes.

Apple has a reputation for releasing very high-quality, polished, intuitive products. They very rarely release "pieces of shit". It's no wonder people get excited when they announce new products.

I guess Apple users just lack the enormous brains required to appreciate the dozens of me-too Honeycomb tablets. That must be it.

nah, they don't have brains to keep on waiting for a few months for the next android tablet that will come close in specs. last year it was quad core CPU's. i a few weeks we'll find out what's worth waiting for.

its like in the 1990's when people would wait for months or years and not buy a PC because something better was coming

 

[cheezy321]

... says a consistent Apple cheerleader who also, consistently, gets warnings/infractions.

Irony: Calling someone out for getting warnings and infractions while they themselves make a personal attack, which in turn should give them an infraction

Im sure the mods can see your edit, but thanks for the fanboy comment.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Sorry, it was color gamut that I meant.

I just read up on it, and it seems Apple specifically stated "color gamut" instead of "saturation", so now I'm sure it's boosting color gamut rather than just pushing numbers up. That won't clip colors, but will give the image a very vibrant look.

lol, I absolutely love it.

Increased (but still inferior) color gamut on an Apple product= the second coming
Larger color gamut on Super AMOLED= awful.

You should try to at least be consistent.

 

[TheStu]

If it's a popular POS with the Apple logo on it, Apple fans will buy it.

I will also take this opportunity to caution both you an cheezy about taking things too far. I can't do much more than that now that I have commented in the thread, but I can always bring in any other mod that I can put my hands on.

Anyway, popular means that it is moving and selling well. If it doesn't, but has an Apple logo on it, such as the examples I laid out, then that disproves your point.

Just say that you don't like them, and don't totally understand the people that do. That is fine, and I get that. I don't understand people that like Linux for example, or that cling to WinXP like a security blanket. I don't get people that buy handheld gaming systems or multi-hundred dollar pairs of jeans either.

 

[VashHT]

Man these threads devolve into a shitfest so fast it's pathetic. I've been really impressed with the rate at which Apple pushes the hardware for the iPad, but honestly the software updates always seem really underwhelming to me. They could add some cool stuff to iOS considering the horsepower that the 4s and iPad 3 have but they don't. Specifically I'd like to see a better multitasking method (something like multiflow from cydia or something more like maemo), or on the iPad being able to run 2 apps side by side would be cool.

 

[runawayprisoner]

lol, I absolutely love it.

Increased (but still inferior) color gamut on an Apple product= the second coming
Larger color gamut on Super AMOLED= awful.

You should try to at least be consistent.

AMOLED is increased saturation but lower gamut. That's bad.

Apple's iPad 3 Retina screen is "likely" increased gamut but not saturation, which "might" be good, but since I don't have the screen in my hands, I can't confirm it.

There's a difference between higher saturation and higher gamut. Higher gamut automatically means higher saturation, but higher saturation doesn't necessarily mean higher gamut.

I haven't really "looked" at SAMOLED long enough to really make any statement about it, but AMOLED (regular) was bad because it clipped colors.

And personally, I don't feel that increased saturation is good (thus too much gamut for me is bad). It'll only increase my eyestrain, if anything. In that case, you bet I feel the iPad 3's screen might actually be "inferior".

 

[Puddle Jumper]

AMOLED is increased saturation but lower gamut. That's bad.

Apple's iPad 3 Retina screen is "likely" increased gamut but not saturation, which "might" be good, but since I don't have the screen in my hands, I can't confirm it.

There's a difference between higher saturation and higher gamut. Higher gamut automatically means higher saturation, but higher saturation doesn't necessarily mean higher gamut.

I haven't really "looked" at SAMOLED long enough to really make any statement about it, but AMOLED (regular) was bad because it clipped colors.

And personally, I don't feel that increased saturation is good (thus too much gamut for me is bad). It'll only increase my eyestrain, if anything. In that case, you bet I feel the iPad 3's screen might actually be "inferior".

No, Super AMOLED has a larger color gamut whcih si why it looks overstatured. This is taken from the Anandtech Galaxy Nexus Review.

The HCFR plot and color.chc file tell an even more interesting story. The CIE chart shows how AMOLED continues to have a gamut much larger than sRGB (which is the inner triangle). It’s awesome to have more spectrum, but bad when mapping sRGB to this color space without more management, and leads to AMOLED’s oversaturation stigma.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5310/samsung-galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-review/11

 

[runawayprisoner]

No, Super AMOLED has a larger color gamut whcih si why it looks overstatured. This is taken from the Anandtech Galaxy Nexus Review.

Ah... then that's another story.

I guess the Retina Display on the iPad 3 is not very comparable at color reproduction in that case. But it's also bad news for me. My eyes can't take that much. My MacBook Pro's screen is already hurting my eyes as it is.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

Ah... then that's another story.

I guess the Retina Display on the iPad 3 is not very comparable at color reproduction in that case. But it's also bad news for me. My eyes can't take that much. My MacBook Pro's screen is already hurting my eyes as it is.

Yeah, based on that statement I would guess the effect of increasing the color gamut on the iPad 3's display would be similar. I obviously don't mind colors that look over saturated since I am a fan of AMOLED displays but I still am not sure exactly why you would want the same effect from a LCD screen.

 

[cohenfive]

i am not an apple fanboy, and ice cream sandwich afficionado, or anything else. heck, i don't even own a tablet yet...but have been thinking about it. my worry with the ipad was lack of flash support, but it sounds like that is disappearing as an issue. my impression of the ipad3 is that apple has leapfrogged ahead in terms of the screen and the processor speed, at least for now. how quickly others will offer equivalent hardware is anyone's guess, but as usual apple has a headstart. as for the os, that i guess is a personal decision about choice/flexibility vs ease of use...and price. the only thing that could have been more interesting would have been if apple had included siri technology, but i guess they are reserving that for the iphone line so people feel they need to own both...

 

[MrX8503]

If it's a popular POS with the Apple logo on it, Apple fans will buy it.

Its only popular to begin with because the original device did so well. If I thought LOTR1 was good, then I'd probably see LOTR2.

 

[zsdersw]

I will also take this opportunity to caution both you an cheezy about taking things too far. I can't do much more than that now that I have commented in the thread, but I can always bring in any other mod that I can put my hands on.

Anyway, popular means that it is moving and selling well. If it doesn't, but has an Apple logo on it, such as the examples I laid out, then that disproves your point.

Just say that you don't like them, and don't totally understand the people that do. That is fine, and I get that. I don't understand people that like Linux for example, or that cling to WinXP like a security blanket. I don't get people that buy handheld gaming systems or multi-hundred dollar pairs of jeans either.

I'll say what I want to say. If someone has a problem with that, too bad for them.

 

[zsdersw]

Its only popular to begin with because the original device did so well. If I thought LOTR1 was good, then I'd probably see LOTR2.

It's popular because people assume it's going to be good when there's always a chance that it won't.

Waiting in huge lines for something that's going to be there for quite a while after launch day isn't a sign of rational buy-what's-good-at-a-good-price consumerism... it's a sign of idiocy.

 

[MagickMan]

It's popular because people assume it's going to be good when there's always a chance that it won't.

Waiting in huge lines for something that's going to be there for quite a while after launch day isn't a sign of rational buy-what's-good-at-a-good-price consumerism... it's a sign of idiocy.

If you live in a basement and detest human contact, I can see your point. Otherwise, it can actually be fun to go out and hang with like-minded people at an event like that.

 

[Mopetar]

If you live in a basement and detest human contact, I can see your point. Otherwise, it can actually be fun to go out and hang with like-minded people at an event like that.

I agree. I stood in line for the Wii launch, partially because I wanted to get a Wii, but mostly because I'd never done it before so I thought I'd give it a try. It was a lot of fun and I had a good time talking with some of the other people in line.

 

[MrX8503]

It's popular because people assume it's going to be good when there's always a chance that it won't.

Waiting in huge lines for something that's going to be there for quite a while after launch day isn't a sign of rational buy-what's-good-at-a-good-price consumerism... it's a sign of idiocy.

You might want to get out more and socialize.

I guess I can't expect you to be rational when it comes to Apple products considering your distaste for the company. The iPad3 could grant eternal life and you'd still think its a shoddy device and that people would only buy it cause its popular or has an Apple logo.

 

[SickBeast]

The simple fact that the ipad 3 can't render flash makes it useless to me in the one area where I would use it the most:. Web browsing.

 

[Ns1]

The simple fact that the ipad 3 can't render flash makes it useless to me in the one area where I would use it the most:. Web browsing.

I think I've been hampered by the lack of flash...once.

 

[SickBeast]

I think I've been hampered by the lack of flash...once.

I take it you've never been to cnn.com or any other site with embedded video?

Just for fun I've disabled flash on my playbook to see what I miss out on. I will report back later.

 

[Ns1]

I take it you've never been to cnn.com or any other site with embedded video?

Just for fun I've disabled flash on my playbook to see what I miss out on. I will report back later.

I sold my iPad so I couldn't tell yah. on my phone it loads up a mobile page with no flash. If I really cared "there's an app for that"

 

[MaxFusion16]

I take it you've never been to cnn.com or any other site with embedded video?

Just for fun I've disabled flash on my playbook to see what I miss out on. I will report back later.

The nice thing about the iPad is that there is an app for it.

Dedicated CNN app, who needs stinking flash.