I declare Barack Hussein Obama unelectable

[jpeyton]

Luckily, it is Obama's nomination to lose.

Hillary's math problem has gotten worse since Ohio and Texas, with Obama expanding his delegate lead.

Obama would literally have to wipe his ass with an American flag on national TV to produce the kind of losses in future primaries that Hillary needs to win the nomination.

Scoreboard.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Brigandier
The whole change message me fall on deaf ears, but Obama has been running a different sort of political race. He didn't toss his minister under the bus, which any other politician would have. It's not just Obama's message that resonates it is the way he behaves during the election. Fault him all you will, but when people look at him, hear him, watch him they see a different type of politician, which is very refreshing indeed.

He's just a very good actor.

What are you basing this on?

He talks about Unity and Change yet belongs to a church that preaches the opposite. His moral compass and spiritual leader also preaches the opposite.

He's all talk and no substance.

So a few speeches by the pastor of a church he goes to define his worldview? That's stupid. There could be a thousand reasons he goes to that church. Maybe his family and friends go there, maybe what the pastor preaches the other 95% of the time are things he agrees with, etc... etc. You're saying he's lying to you because of some argument that's based on guilt by association.

Ie: your argument is shit. You're saying he's all talk and no substance through an argument that's all talk and no substance.

If you were running for President of the United States, do you think it would be smart not to put on your campaign staff, call your moral compass and spirtual leader someone that preaches hate and claims the gov't that you want to run created AIDS to kill blacks?

That's enough to know his judgement is shit and I know I would feel safe with who he elects if he's President.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: Fox5

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: glutenberg
It's amazing how little substantiation there is in this thread. All I see is emotional jabber.

You don't think Republicans will swiftboat him with the pastor's comments should he be nominated?

You'd be foolish to think that the average voter would vote for someone who has been going to a racist church for 20 years.

Are people that uninformed about the hypocrisy of this entire situation? Hasn't it been said multiple times that when it comes to receiving white Fundamentalist pastors go ahead that it's ok but for some reason this is a no no? I'm going to vote on my principles. If you feel the need to vote for hypocrisy, then feel free to do so. It's a pretty sad statement about how far race relations have really come; from blatant to surreptitious.

Receiving go-aheads is different from getting hateful sh!t preached to you every Sunday.

Let's be as irrational as you in regards to McCain. Assuming that Obama went to church every Sunday, that's about 1040 days spent in church which equates to about 3 years of which there's a week gap between each "hateful" sermon. McCain was held under Vietnamese imprisonment for 5.5 years in which he was tortured and I'm sure, belittled daily. Does that mean McCain is now a Vietcong and hates Democratic American too? Man, logic can be fun when you spit absolute garbage to support your views.

Obama went voluntarily.
McCain was a prisoner.
Silly comparison, but you are right that Obama choosing to attend a racist congregation doesn't necessarily make him a racist. Do you think Obama even realized it was a racist congregation? KKK members often didn't realize they were a racist group.

There have been plenty of articles of the church and pastor for more than a year about their hate preaching but Obama didn't denounce the church til now.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Originally posted by: Brigandier
The whole change message me fall on deaf ears, but Obama has been running a different sort of political race. He didn't toss his minister under the bus, which any other politician would have. It's not just Obama's message that resonates it is the way he behaves during the election. Fault him all you will, but when people look at him, hear him, watch him they see a different type of politician, which is very refreshing indeed.

He's just a very good actor.

What are you basing this on?

He talks about Unity and Change yet belongs to a church that preaches the opposite. His moral compass and spiritual leader also preaches the opposite.

He's all talk and no substance.

So a few speeches by the pastor of a church he goes to define his worldview? That's stupid. There could be a thousand reasons he goes to that church. Maybe his family and friends go there, maybe what the pastor preaches the other 95% of the time are things he agrees with, etc... etc. You're saying he's lying to you because of some argument that's based on guilt by association.

Ie: your argument is shit. You're saying he's all talk and no substance through an argument that's all talk and no substance.

If you were running for President of the United States, do you think it would be smart not to put on your campaign staff, call your moral compass and spirtual leader someone that preaches hate and claims the gov't that you want to run created AIDS to kill blacks?

That's enough to know his judgement is shit and I know I would feel safe with who he elects if he's President.

Maybe he preaches other things too. Just a thought.

 

[Jhhnn]

The timing is all wrong for a successful swiftliar attack, and it can't possibly be as direct as that against Kerry. He could be attacked for what others said he did at the time and for his own words, even if the meaning was twisted. Obama can only be attacked for what somebody else said or did at the time... It wasn't long after the 2004 election that the media and the voters realized they'd been had by the swiftliars

It's pretty well dead already, and the election is 8 months away. It'll be dead and *obviously* stinking if repubs try to drag it back out closer to the election. Even Hillary won't touch it, and I'm confident she's desperate for some point of leverage right about now...

 

[spittledip]

The only thing I get from this thread is that people like to use the term "swiftboat."

 

[Brigandier]

Seeing as Wright is a Christian minister wouldn't he also preach brotherly love and forgiveness and all that other feel-good mumbo-jumbo?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Luckily, it is Obama's nomination to lose.

Hillary's math problem has gotten worse since Ohio and Texas, with Obama expanding his delegate lead.

Obama would literally have to wipe his ass with an American flag on national TV to produce the kind of losses in future primaries that Hillary needs to win the nomination.

Scoreboard.

You obviously haven't been looking at the recent polls. Obama can't win the nomination either and with this snafu, Super delegates job isn't as hard now.

 

[Sinsear]

Seems this controversy has Obama a bit "shaken up".

"In some ways, this controversy has actually shaken me up a little bit and gotten me back into remembering that the odds of me getting elected have always been lower than some of the other conventional candidates," the Illinois senator told CNN's Anderson Cooper in an exclusive one-on-one interview.

I'm not sure but is that a victim card up his sleeve?

 

[kage69]

I'm not sure but is that a victim card up his sleeve?

Dunno. That mentality certainly has been en vogue with other christians of late though...

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
You obviously haven't been looking at the recent polls. Obama can't win the nomination either and with this snafu, Super delegates job isn't as hard now.

I've seen all the recent polls; none of them show the blowout leads that Hillary needs to win more delegates than Obama.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Brigandier
Religion shouldn't play such a large role in an election. So, Obama has a minister that says crazy things, oh well, Obama doesn't say crazy things. Obama says very sane and reasonable things, what is the huge issue? I personally think Obama's response t o the falp improved him in a lot of people's eyes. What is everyone so afraid of?

So if you've been buddy buddy with some guy that for the last 20 years says things like the US government has managed to infect many blacks with aids to keep the "blacks down" and all your friends then found out about him, do you still think you'd have any of those friends if you didn't ditch your buddy.

 

[Kerouactivist]

It's Okay!!!!!....It's Okay!!!!!....It's Okay!!!!
everything is fine nothing to see here....pls don't change anything but change...status quo status quo...I fear everything else....I'm a wreck.....

 

[Brigandier]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Brigandier
Religion shouldn't play such a large role in an election. So, Obama has a minister that says crazy things, oh well, Obama doesn't say crazy things. Obama says very sane and reasonable things, what is the huge issue? I personally think Obama's response t o the falp improved him in a lot of people's eyes. What is everyone so afraid of?

So if you've been buddy buddy with some guy that for the last 20 years says things like the US government has managed to infect many blacks with aids to keep the "blacks down" and all your friends then found out about him, do you still think you'd have any of those friends if you didn't ditch your buddy.

A majority of my friends think that the government conspires to reduce individual freedoms(that's what I get for hanging out with pot heads) and I have a few crazy friends that think 9/11 was a conspiracy. On the other side of the coin, I'm friends with a lot of traditional conservative rational people, and everyone gets along. Because, guess what, this is America and people can believe what they want. And their loony thoughts have no bearing on my thoughts, I am not crazy by association.

 

[Dari]

It's hilarious how, four years ago, Republicans swiftboated a decorated War hero and voted for the village idiot (I know, I voted for him too). Now, they sing the veteran's name and are trying to swiftboat someone who is smart enough to solve many of the problems this country faces. Hypocrisy? No, of course not. Just politics as usual in America.

 

[sandorski]

Wow, we haven't had such a blatant troll thread here in about 3 or 4 days. Good work!

I like how one of the big criticisms against Obama seems to be that he's just another Politician. I'll bet that those criticizing him for that will in turn Vote for a Politician, just not Obama.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Between Hillary and McCain, probably Hillary but it isn't going to be a walk in the park

Obama and McCain? McCain will win that hands down, which is probably why the likes of Jaskalas and Pabser likes Obama now, they are not as stupid as they present themselves.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic

Originally posted by: Brigandier

Originally posted by: Rockinacoustic

Originally posted by: Brigandier
And the rest are bad actors, what's the deal? I'd rather have someone that is good at something in the White House for once.

Like giving speeches? Sorry, but talk is cheap.

All politicians have is talk and their own brain, that is it. Talk is cheap, watch politicians on mute and then decide who to vote for. Talk is cheap, then STFU, talk is cheap, Talk is the way humans communicate their ideas and ideals to eachother, talk is all we have my monkey-brained friend.

If Barack Obama gives a speech in a middle of the forest, and no one is around to hear it, do you Obamabots still need a change of pants?

if you were a troll in the middle of a forest, would you still shitpoast?

 

[miketheidiot]

hillary is fundementally ignorant and has no business being president.

based on the economics threads around here is should be no surpise that she is getting such support.

 

[Jhhnn]

That's not a victim card, sinsear, it's just a realistic assessment.

Geraldine Ferraro's foot in mouth remarks? That was a victim card.

All this appeal to latent White racism inherent in the tempest in a teapot furor over Wright's venting of a lifetime of frustration, using it as a tarbrush on Obama? That's a victim card, too... as if White America could somehow be "victim" to reverse racism...

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Dari
It's hilarious how, four years ago, Republicans swiftboated a decorated War hero and voted for the village idiot (I know, I voted for him too). Now, they sing the veteran's name and are trying to swiftboat someone who is smart enough to solve many of the problems this country faces. Hypocrisy? No, of course not. Just politics as usual in America.

Is it as funny as how the left has attacked the "religious right" and their crazy churches for many years, but now they are defending a radical church?

Although I do think its pretty funny how quickly both sides flip flop when it comes to their Presidential candidate and military service. The left voted in a draft dodger for two consecutive terms, then just a few years later they attack GWB for not serving in Vietnam and go on and on about how important Kerry's military service was. That's blatant hypocrisy for both parties.

 

[SSSnail]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: glutenberg
It's amazing how little substantiation there is in this thread. All I see is emotional jabber.

Well, it IS a thread about Barack Omaba after all!

Oh snap!

 

[Red Dawn]

I wish the McCain of 2000 was running, not the neutered current version of him. At least he's better than the current President though that's not saying much.

Anyway though it wouldn't be in the best interest of Americans if another Republican won it would be in the best interest of the Democrats because it wouldn't matter who won, the next President will be saddled with all the bullshit President Shit for Brains got us into and will fail in epic proportions despite his/her best efforts.

 

[palehorse]

scoreboard.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Dari
It's hilarious how, four years ago, Republicans swiftboated a decorated War hero and voted for the village idiot (I know, I voted for him too). Now, they sing the veteran's name and are trying to swiftboat someone who is smart enough to solve many of the problems this country faces. Hypocrisy? No, of course not. Just politics as usual in America.

Is it as funny as how the left has attacked the "religious right" and their crazy churches for many years, but now they are defending a radical church?

So true.