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Gibson486

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Originally posted by: Crafty35a
Originally posted by: thecrecarc
And how did the woman and the kid get past all those zombies? i doubt they drove to the shelter in 1 day.

She specifically said that they could get there in one day. Which is perfectly reasonable, Vermont is not all that far from New York.


Originally posted by: Svnla

6. Why the guy that set the trap didn't jump out and finish Will when he was fighting with the mutant dogs <the sun no longer bother them>.

Huh? What makes you think the sun no longer bothers them?

no, he is talking about the scene where the dog get mauled. During the scene, the sun has set and teh dogs go after will and the dog. The mutants or whatever they are just sit back and watch their dogs die.
 

rstrohkirch

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When Will was browsing the apartment there were posters warning that the infected dogs came out at dusk but not humans.
I would assume that the infected dogs were only effected by direct sunlight were as the infected humans needed complete darkness.

My biggest problem with trap scene is that it setup the premise that:
- The alpha leader tracked/watched him during the day as he entered the video store (from the darkness somewhere apparently) to get revenge
- Noted that he routinely stopped at this place and would notice that one of the mannequins was missing
- Knew that he would drive down a certain street so he could setup the decoy
- Knew that he would drive down to the decoy and get out of his car and come up to the decoy
- Knew that he would step into the puddle of water?or if it was even going to be there the next day assuming it didn't evaporate on the rather nice sunny day
- Hope that he didn't have a knife or something to cut himself down for hours while the leader waited for dusk to come
Right?
Normally, I brush off this kind of stuff as suspended belief to make the movie work but it was such a pivotal scene that I thought they could have came up with something better
 

RaistlinZ

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: Crafty35a
Originally posted by: thecrecarc
And how did the woman and the kid get past all those zombies? i doubt they drove to the shelter in 1 day.

She specifically said that they could get there in one day. Which is perfectly reasonable, Vermont is not all that far from New York.


Originally posted by: Svnla

6. Why the guy that set the trap didn't jump out and finish Will when he was fighting with the mutant dogs <the sun no longer bother them>.

Huh? What makes you think the sun no longer bothers them?

no, he is talking about the scene where the dog get mauled. During the scene, the sun has set and teh dogs go after will and the dog. The mutants or whatever they are just sit back and watch their dogs die.

Well, they had two zombie dogs vs. a house dog and an injured man. Maybe they were overconfident. But I'm still wondering how Anna managed to save Will from the zombie horde all by herself and get away without a scratch.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: Crafty35a
Originally posted by: thecrecarc
And how did the woman and the kid get past all those zombies? i doubt they drove to the shelter in 1 day.

She specifically said that they could get there in one day. Which is perfectly reasonable, Vermont is not all that far from New York.


Originally posted by: Svnla

6. Why the guy that set the trap didn't jump out and finish Will when he was fighting with the mutant dogs <the sun no longer bother them>.

Huh? What makes you think the sun no longer bothers them?

no, he is talking about the scene where the dog get mauled. During the scene, the sun has set and teh dogs go after will and the dog. The mutants or whatever they are just sit back and watch their dogs die.

Well, they had two zombie dogs vs. a house dog and an injured man. Maybe they were overconfident. But I'm still wondering how Anna managed to save Will from the zombie horde all by herself and get away without a scratch.

yeah...that is what I was wondering too....

 

Crafty35a

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It looked to me that the hugh flash of light when she appeared to save him was more than just headlights - like she had some sort of giant UV lamp (which killed/scared them all off)
 

Drekce

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There were some huge floodlights on the pier. I noticed them the first time that Will Smith went out there. They were similar to the ones that he turned on outside of his house at the end of the movie.
 

InflatableBuddha

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Originally posted by: Drekce
There were some huge floodlights on the pier. I noticed them the first time that Will Smith went out there. They were similar to the ones that he turned on outside of his house at the end of the movie.

I noticed the floodlights too. However, Will had generators at his house to power those lights - wouldn't the electricity at the pier have been knocked out? How would Anna have had power for those lights? Vampires headbutting a full-sized SUV? Suspend belief, I guess.

As for the rest...

I agree that the ending made no sense. Presumably Will would have committed suicide if he had failed in his goal to find a cure for the virus - he would have no other reason to continue living. But he very clearly succeeded in that when he handed the vial to Anna. He had the cure; there was no reason to sacrifice himself when he could have escaped. He died as a legend, but not for the reasons in the original story. Ultimately another stupid happy Hollywood ending, unfaithful to the original story.

There was no character development of the vampires. Will Smith was portrayed as having a deteriorating mental state, but he should have been portrayed as a monster, out hunting the Infected. The Infected are shown to be brainless and violent, acting only on instinct and rudimentary social structure.

The GT 500 in the opening scene was a complete WTF for me; the rest of the product placement was slightly annoying but bearable. Loved the DVD copy of Goodfellas seen in the closet.

Overall, still a 6.5/10 because it was downright scary and had good action. Will Smith's incredible acting made up for a lot of shortcomings.

 

dougp

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Originally posted by: RaistlinZ
Originally posted by: Gibson486
Originally posted by: Crafty35a
Originally posted by: thecrecarc
And how did the woman and the kid get past all those zombies? i doubt they drove to the shelter in 1 day.

She specifically said that they could get there in one day. Which is perfectly reasonable, Vermont is not all that far from New York.


Originally posted by: Svnla

6. Why the guy that set the trap didn't jump out and finish Will when he was fighting with the mutant dogs <the sun no longer bother them>.

Huh? What makes you think the sun no longer bothers them?

no, he is talking about the scene where the dog get mauled. During the scene, the sun has set and teh dogs go after will and the dog. The mutants or whatever they are just sit back and watch their dogs die.

Well, they had two zombie dogs vs. a house dog and an injured man. Maybe they were overconfident. But I'm still wondering how Anna managed to save Will from the zombie horde all by herself and get away without a scratch.

Explaination on that one is quite simple - it wasn't actually sundown, but dusk. If you note earlier in the movie about the street signs that warned the "Dogs can now come out at Dusk" - they lacked the survival instincts to worry about the sensitivity to that low amount of light, as opposed to the other vampires. At least, that's what I got from it.

And for the person above about the grenade, it wasn't your typical pull the pin and throw, it was a frag grenade that had the lever detonator. Let go and it goes boom after a set amount of time (adjustable).
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: TheChort
Did he expect the grenade at the end to kill all the zombies in the basement? I don't expect that it did. If I'm reading this right, then he also managed to destroy 3 years of sextuple backed-up research. :confused:

And how did he get so famous in the first place?

Yeah, I'm kind of wondering how they're supposed to manufacture the cure off of just one vial of blood. All his research was blown up so it would take a long time to figure out what in the blood was the cure. I'm not sure that tiny little town had the research facilities to figure it out.
 

sandorski

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****Last Man on Earth Spoilers****


Last night I watched both Last Man on Earth and I Am Legend. Last Man was definitely the movie I watched many years ago and is a movie worth watching, but it was quite different than I Am Legend, but with some similarities. Both main characters had a Wife and Daughter, both were Researchers looking for the cure, both buried the dog although in Last Man the dog comes in the middle of the movie and only lives with the main character for half a day before dying, in both there's a woman except in Last Man the woman is actually infected but has a drug that needs taken on a regular basis that keeps her from reverting to full infection(in fact she once had full infection), both discover a cure but end up dying except in Last Man the Cure ends up being destroyed.

The differences: All animals are infected/killed by the Virus in Last Man, the Infected are rather slow and cumbersome in Last Man and there's a much more traditional Vampire theme to them(garlic, mirrors, stakes, etc), the Plague is Natural and not Man/Woman:)P) Made, there are no uninfected survivors just those who are taking the medicine to keep the infection at bay, the main character in Last Man spends his days hunting the Infected and doesn't research the cure until the woman shows up, the main character in Last Man only considers getting a Sports Car then settles on a station wagon for its' practicality, Last Man character is killed by the Drug taking Infected and not the full blown Infected, they kill him because they fear him.
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Despite the complete lack of special effects, Last Man does a very good job IMO of creating a realistic environment for the scenario. Well worth seeing if you like this type of story.
 

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: johnjbruin
I think I am ready to go buy a GT500, and expedition, and the new explorer.
With that I will also take the apple powerbook and a bunch of iPods.
Loved the product placements throughout the movie :)
Shouldn't they be paying us to go see movies now, with all the placement? Futurama probably wasn't too far off when they spoke of putting ads into people's dreams. If that capability existed, humanity would soon commit mass suicide, due to excessive ad spamming during sleep. They'd seek out a lovely (name-brand) gun, and use only genuine (other name-brand) ammunition. (Sorry, I don't know weaponry brands.) They'd write a suicide note on Hammermill paper using a quality BIC pen, and affix it to an LG refrigerator using 3M's Scotch tape.
 

sandorski

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I Am Legend comments:

1) Religion: I think it's such a minor point to the story that some are way overblowing it. It certainly is not the theme of the movie

2) Killing himself: If Will hadn't set off the nade, that room would have been full of zombies the next day as they were quite well sealed off from sunlight there

3) The Cure: Once that vial was injected into a zombie and that zombie recovered, the former zombies blood could be used as the cure as well there was no need for more Research or expertise.

4) Where the disease came from?: It was the genetically manipulated "Cure" for Cancer. This was a side effect.
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I enjoyed I Am Legend, but it wasn't spectacular. The most heart wrenching for me wasn't when he killed his dog, but the day after when he was getting used to being without his dog. I really felt a sense of his state of mind at that point, his being just sane enough to go on with living, but just at the breaking point as he had relied on his dog to keep him sane all that time.

Worth seeing for sure, just not an Epic.
 

aceO07

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Originally posted by: lokiju
Not that this post will add much to this thread being this far in but...


For starters, WTF call it "I Am Legend" after the book when it had not one single part from the book in the movie?

Book vs Movie complaints/gripes aside.

The movie felt lacking, like it had all the elements there to be an awesome movie, but it wasn't pulled off.

And whats up with the happy ending? The books ending was better IMO.

Who reads anymore? :confused:

I totally agree. The title of the movie should have been changed. The idea from the book, 'I am Legend' was that he was like the vampire.. killing while they were sleeping, almost unstoppable.. a terror. When he is captured and dies, he realizes that 'I am legend'. A legend like the vampire and other monsters..
 

ViviTheMage

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great movie, but it had the normal dramatic effects..

bring the audience down, WAY down...all alone...3 years later...(finally see how his wife and kid die)...dog dies...goes out at night to kill some zombie dudes....

UP! Finds others living...place in the mountains...a cure....

it was cute though, very VERY long suspense scenes imo, great!

Will is a good actor.
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
It was alright. I hate it when zombie movies dont cover the back story. Personally for me, the social fallout of such an infection and the slow decline of civilization is much more interesting than the hashed and rehashed survival stories in a post-apocalypitc zombie-infested world. Even with that aside, the movie wasn't that good. The CGI zombies were no wear near as menacing as in 28 days later and it seems silly the entire world would die except for some random ass base in Vermont. There are plenty of secluded areas in the world... in the United States even...

All in all, I felt like it was more or less 28 Days Later meets Castaway

I liked their excuse. "The last place safe is Vermont, because it's so cold up there."

Apparently Vermont is the coldest place on Earth. How about Canada? Hell, how about Maine? Ever been to Greenland?
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Eeezee
Originally posted by: Mo0o
It was alright. I hate it when zombie movies dont cover the back story. Personally for me, the social fallout of such an infection and the slow decline of civilization is much more interesting than the hashed and rehashed survival stories in a post-apocalypitc zombie-infested world. Even with that aside, the movie wasn't that good. The CGI zombies were no wear near as menacing as in 28 days later and it seems silly the entire world would die except for some random ass base in Vermont. There are plenty of secluded areas in the world... in the United States even...

All in all, I felt like it was more or less 28 Days Later meets Castaway

I liked their excuse. "The last place safe is Vermont, because it's so cold up there."

Apparently Vermont is the coldest place on Earth. How about Canada? Hell, how about Maine? Ever been to Greenland?

hehe, It's always got to be an American location. That's just the way Hollywood works. Although Alaska would seem to have been better.
 

Crafty35a

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Originally posted by: sandorski
hehe, It's always got to be an American location. That's just the way Hollywood works. Although Alaska would seem to have been better.

But Alaska can't be reached in one day from New York!
 

Casawi

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Did know what to think of it really. It was above average for sure, but I think they cut it short at the end. I was expecting a lot more ..
 

isasir

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Good movie. One comment -

- I actually thought that Will Smith has put that mannequin there to stimulate his "blowing shit up" aggressive side. Was that mannequin one of the mannequins that was previously elsewhere? (In front of the DVD store?) - actually, I guess the question is, did Will Smith know he was talking to mannequins at that point, or did, in his mind, he truly believe these were people?

 

lokiju

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Originally posted by: isasir
Good movie. One comment -

- I actually thought that Will Smith has put that mannequin there to stimulate his "blowing shit up" aggressive side. Was that mannequin one of the mannequins that was previously elsewhere? (In front of the DVD store?) - actually, I guess the question is, did Will Smith know he was talking to mannequins at that point, or did, in his mind, he truly believe these were people?

That was the mannequin from in front of the DVD store and from what I understood, he didn't really believe that they were real but part of him had doubts.

When he saw that it had moved, then he was unsure and thats why he shot it.

I read the book and while he fought losing his mind, he never fully did.
 

jhbball

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Pretty weak showing. Poor CGI; typical hollywood story. The ~60% on RT is a bit high, IMO.
 

Gibson486

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Originally posted by: lokiju
Originally posted by: isasir
Good movie. One comment -

- I actually thought that Will Smith has put that mannequin there to stimulate his "blowing shit up" aggressive side. Was that mannequin one of the mannequins that was previously elsewhere? (In front of the DVD store?) - actually, I guess the question is, did Will Smith know he was talking to mannequins at that point, or did, in his mind, he truly believe these were people?

That was the mannequin from in front of the DVD store and from what I understood, he didn't really believe that they were real but part of him had doubts.

When he saw that it had moved, then he was unsure and thats why he shot it.

I read the book and while he fought losing his mind, he never fully did.

yeah, they were there just to show how being isolated from people took a mental toll on him. He talks to them to stay "sane". When he sees that one of them has moved and knows that is unbelievable so he shoots it because he needs to keep his sanity in check.