Hunter Biden pardoned by President Biden

[ch33zw1z]

If people were unable to tell the difference between the candidates and why it was important to vote, then no, they are not smarter than folks here think.

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🤷‍♂️ Kamala bad

 

[Jaskalas]

Fox carries a Chuck Todd take on this issue....
Wonder how much they took out of context here, cause I didn't expect a Democrat to so blatantly ignore the red hat, white hood wearing elephant in the room.
But if that's truly how the media handles our departure from normalcy, to ignore MAGA... no wonder Harris lost.

NBC’s Chuck Todd says President Biden ‘needs therapy’ following son Hunter’s pardon​

Todd said Biden was 'emotionally incapable' of being president and 'probably never should have run'​

 

[manly]

It's not just Chuck Todd. Headlines all over the place about how (some) Dem lawmakers aren't happy either. I read an op-ed somewhere (The Atlantic?) that said this really undercuts Dems moral authority as they retrench for the midterms in 2026. (Not that I buy it.)

Personally I'm glad Biden changed his mind, although the blanket 10-year pardon doesn't sit well with some observers. He should never have promised to not pardon his son. That was unnecessary (he could have been coy and said he'd wait for the legal system to play out). Another option would have been to wait for the sentencing in 2 weeks, then commute the sentences while leaving the verdicts intact.

In a sense, Biden chose the most provocative option available and Repugs will just exploit this however they can. Trump was always gonna Trump, but this makes J6 pardons a lot easier.

 

[fskimospy]

This seems like another poster child for the idea that Trump's corruption is assumed so when he does things that are ten times worse they get a shrug. Pretty telling to see the media feeding frenzy here though considering they basically ignored Trump doing the same thing (and then appointing the pardoned family member to be an ambassador)

 

[sandorski]

It's not just Chuck Todd. Headlines all over the place about how (some) Dem lawmakers aren't happy either. I read an op-ed somewhere (The Atlantic?) that said this really undercuts Dems moral authority as they retrench for the midterms in 2026. (Not that I buy it.)

Personally I'm glad Biden changed his mind, although the blanket 10-year pardon doesn't sit well with some observers. He should never have promised to not pardon his son. That was unnecessary (he could have been coy and said he'd wait for the legal system to play out). Another option would have been to wait for the sentencing in 2 weeks, then commute the sentences while leaving the verdicts intact.

In a sense, Biden chose the most provocative option available and Repugs will just exploit this however they can. Trump was always gonna Trump, but this makes J6 pardons a lot easier.

Easier? Doubt it, the more offensive the more tempting to do.

 

[Brainonska511]

It's not just Chuck Todd. Headlines all over the place about how (some) Dem lawmakers aren't happy either. I read an op-ed somewhere (The Atlantic?) that said this really undercuts Dems moral authority as they retrench for the midterms in 2026. (Not that I buy it.)

The headlines show that the media can still generate scandals if they wanted to. It seems that with the incoming Trump administration, they are deciding it is better not bother too much, after all, Republicans are just a force of nature.

 

[jdubs03]

This seems like another poster child for the idea that Trump's corruption is assumed so when he does things that are ten times worse they get a shrug. Pretty telling to see the media feeding frenzy here though considering they basically ignored Trump doing the same thing (and then appointing the pardoned family member to be an ambassador)

It’s absolutely disgusting tbh. Maddow had a good segment last night pointing out this exact thing.
Kushner being appointed ambassador to France is just wild.

It’s rank hypocrisy. But then again that’s what the Right is known for. And they do it so much that it gets lost in the weeds.

 

[manly]

Easier? Doubt it, the more offensive the more tempting to do.

Trump had already said he wants to pardon anyone convicted of J6 crimes. Who would dare stop him now? At this point, we'd be surprised if he doesn't pardon his J6 insurrectionists.

 

[fskimospy]

Trump had already said he wants to pardon anyone convicted of J6 crimes. Who would dare stop him now? At this point, we'd be surprised if he doesn't pardon his J6 insurrectionists.

That was one story I liked - saw a few headlines talking about how the Hunter pardon could ‘embolden’ Trump to pardon the insurrectionists.

As if he hadn’t been promising to do exactly that for literally years now. So fucking stupid.

 

[gothuevos]

This seems like another poster child for the idea that Trump's corruption is assumed so when he does things that are ten times worse they get a shrug. Pretty telling to see the media feeding frenzy here though considering they basically ignored Trump doing the same thing (and then appointing the pardoned family member to be an ambassador)

Is it the media or has the GOP pulled "one neat trick" to basically grant themselves immunity from criticism for all bad behavior?

They banked on the public getting tired of drinking from a firehose of bad behavior that the electorate would either ignore or outright reward them.

You gotta admit, it's a great position to be in.

 

[gothuevos]

That was one story I liked - saw a few headlines talking about how the Hunter pardon could ‘embolden’ Trump to pardon the insurrectionists.

As if he hadn’t been promising to do exactly that for literally years now. So fucking stupid.

His initial promises were to review and pardon all the "non violent" offenders.

Now he will just pardon all of them.

 

[HomerJS]

Politicians are like teenagers, if they're talking they're lying. This is why turnout was so low. The people are smarter than many here think.

Those so called smart people pissed off at Biden because they pay more for eggs and gas are about to find out they are not so smart.

 

[fskimospy]

His initial promises were to review and pardon all the "non violent" offenders.

Now he will just pardon all of them.

What he does or doesn’t do has zero to do with Biden pardoning his son. Like literally zero.

 

[Drach]

Personally I think presidential pardons should be revoked.
Hunter broke the law and should pay the same price as any normal citizen would.

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[ch33zw1z]

His initial promises were to review and pardon all the "non violent" offenders.

Now he will just pardon all of them.

Haha, yea Trump and his promises totally believable 🤣

 

[Dave_5k]

Personally I think presidential pardons should be revoked.
Hunter broke the law and should pay the same price as any normal citizen would.

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Please see the editor’s note below.

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Well, the normal price would be, in 99.99999% of known cases, to never be prosecuted for either of those crimes. (Roughly one in ten million offenders would be prosecuted for the same crimes - tax evasion after paying back penalties and interest, and non-violent illegal gun possession). And further, somewhere upwards of 1 million known large IRS tax evaders - who still haven't paid back taxes and penalties - have not been charged, much less prosecuted.

Edit: Although, prosecuting and putting some 20 million illegal drug using gun owners, and a further 30+ million IRS tax evaders, behind bars might be considered by some to be the appropriate action, it is not practically possible.

 

[pmv]

What he does or doesn’t do has zero to do with Biden pardoning his son. Like literally zero.

Not to say Biden was wrong to do this (I think it was no more reasonable or unreasonable a use of the Pardon power as most cases I can remember, and more so than Bush Snr with the Iran-Contra gang, say), but I can just about believe that in one respect it might influence Trump.

Simply insofar as it will remind him of the issue of the J6 mob, and, perhaps, bring it closer to the forefront of what passes for his 'mind' and make him more likely to actually remember to pardon them. There is, after all, a perfectly plausible scenario where he simply forgets all about their existence, as they've served their purpose already, and Trump isn't prone to make special efforts to remember to return favours.

 

[brycejones]

His initial promises were to review and pardon all the "non violent" offenders.

Now he will just pardon all of them.

Oh come on, he was always going to pardon them all.

 

[fskimospy]

Not to say Biden was wrong to do this (I think it was no more reasonable or unreasonable a use of the Pardon power as most cases I can remember, and more so than Bush Snr with the Iran-Contra gang, say), but I can just about believe that in one respect it might influence Trump.

Simply insofar as it will remind him of the issue of the J6 mob, and, perhaps, bring it closer to the forefront of what passes for his 'mind' and make him more likely to actually remember to pardon them. There is, after all, a perfectly plausible scenario where he simply forgets all about their existence, as they've served their purpose already, and Trump isn't prone to make special efforts to remember to return favours.

He’s talked about it constantly for years. I’m sure he remembers.

 

[QueBert]

Trump had already said he wants to pardon anyone convicted of J6 crimes. Who would dare stop him now? At this point, we'd be surprised if he doesn't pardon his J6 insurrectionists.

And when he does how many fellow GOP will speak out against it? There have been a decent number of Democrats who have said they're upset at Biden for pardoning his Son. I'll bet not a single Republican will say shit when Trump goes on his pardoning spree.

 

[Jaskalas]

It's not just Chuck Todd. Headlines all over the place about how (some) Dem lawmakers aren't happy either. I read an op-ed somewhere (The Atlantic?) that said this really undercuts Dems moral authority as they retrench for the midterms in 2026. (Not that I buy it.)

Moral authority is a better policy to help the American people.
It may also be considered moral authority to oppose the Republican's attempts to go banana republic, of which they accused us for even looking at Trump's myriad crimes. Their promised vengeance on their "enemies" will be all encompassing, and it should be our moral duty to guard the American people from these efforts. All of them, including Joe and Hunter Biden.

 

[Zorba]

Well, the normal price would be, in 99.99999% of known cases, to never be prosecuted for either of those crimes. (Roughly one in ten million offenders would be prosecuted for the same crimes - tax evasion after paying back penalties and interest, and non-violent illegal gun possession). And further, somewhere upwards of 1 million known large IRS tax evaders - who still haven't paid back taxes and penalties - have not been charged, much less prosecuted.

Edit: Although, prosecuting and putting some 20 million illegal drug using gun owners, and a further 30+ million IRS tax evaders, behind bars might be considered by some to be the appropriate action, it is not practically possible.

Isn't the gun charge because he had a gun while using illegal drugs? I know multiple Trumper in my neighborhood who are guilty of that crime right now.

 

[jdubs03]

Isn't the gun charge because he had a gun while using illegal drugs? I know multiple Trumper in my neighborhood who are guilty of that crime right now.

It’s because he lied on a firearm application form saying he wasn’t using drugs at the time of applying. And he then later admitted to drug use during that timeframe.

 

[outriding]

It’s because he lied on a firearm application form saying he wasn’t using drugs at the time of applying. And he then later admitted to drug use during that timeframe.

Sooo everyone with a medical mj card cannot own a gun

How many of those people served time?

 

[Fenixgoon]

It’s because he lied on a firearm application form saying he wasn’t using drugs at the time of applying. And he then later admitted to drug use during that timeframe.

Sure. And any prosecutor probably would have plead that down to essentially a slap on the wrist.

Instead, the witch hunts that trump complains about actually happened to Hunter because his dad is the sitting president