Hunter Biden pardoned by President Biden

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nakedfrog

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Biden got 303 in 2020 and that was not deemed a mandate.
How is Trump's 9 more EC votes a mandate?

Because you say it is?
It's Braznor, the statement needs to be taken with a grain of salt approximately the size of Greenland.
 
Nov 29, 2006
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I saw the text of the pardon. It's a blanket pardon for everything from 2014 to now, so Republicans can't charge Hunter with anything.

Now I'm wondering about who Biden should pardon next.

- Dr. Fauci for doing his job?
- Mike Pence for doing his job?
- Hillary Clinton for Bengazi, emails, etc.?

Who else do Republicans want to target with prosecution persecution?
Pardon the whole US population to show how silly the pardon power is.
 

APU_Fusion

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I think Biden should pardon every piece of garbage who voted for a rapist felon. And call the pieces of shit deplorable while at it. America is led by a rapist. Let that sink in.
 

HomerJS

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Feb 6, 2002
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Thinking about getting a t-shirt made...

Rapists for Trump

As a subtle reminder what his voters support.
 

manly

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Personally, I see his bigger failure is Garland, and the subsequent failure to prosecute Trump for his many crimes (and the slow-walking of it when they finally tried to).
Did anybody have any idea that Garland would be so weak? I certainly didn't, so hard to blame Biden too much for that one. Like if you didn't know better, you'd think Garland worked for the Trump Org?

Also, the circumstances of Biden's decision to run again are very important. Only after the debate debacle did we realize how much Biden's innermost circle had stage-managed him over the previous 12 months. Like yeah we knew all the GOP talking points about "senility," but there was no real evidence beyond some fairly standard cognitive decline for an octogenarian. Turns out there would have been more evidence if it hadn't been concealed from not just the public, but also from legislators who met with POTUS from time to time.

People like Mike Donilon are very much responsible for Trump 2.0. I have no idea what role Jill Biden played in all of this.

But it's a weird take to consider the Biden presidency a complete failure. Cleaning up the mess after the last two GOP presidencies was both times a Herculean job.
 

Fenixgoon

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Thinking about getting a t-shirt made...

Rapists for Trump

As a subtle reminder what his voters support.
While you're not wrong, I don't think wearing that in public would garner the reaction you hope...
 

brandonbull

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Yup, does seem as if he got treated more severely because of who his father was. Though the whole Presidential Pardon power seems a bit stupid to me. I note the Daily Mail (shamelessly) reports this as:



As if giving pardons to your pals and family members is something staggeringly-unprecedented in the US system, rather than something that happens regularly.

e.g. (though Trump's not the only one either)

Literally gave Hunter the most vague and encompassing pardon ever. Blanket coverage for 11 years.
 

outriding

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Feb 20, 2002
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Literally gave Hunter the most vague and encompassing pardon ever. Blanket coverage for 11 years.

You failed again..

Shocking

The most vague pardon was given to Nivon..

"Though the impeachment process was forced to stop, there was still a chance of prosecution at the federal level. However, after succeeding Nixon, President Gerald Ford granted Nixon a complete pardon of all the things “he may or may not have done during his presidency.” Nixon declared his innocence all the way until his death in 1994."

 

QueBert

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Since the Supreme Court has said the President can't be charged with anything done while he's president. Here's what Biden should do before he leaves office. He should make every last illegal a bonified US citizen. While I know this isn't possible, I read about honorary citizenship on teh Googles, I would love for Biden to invoke this to see what happens. Imagine all the brown illegals that Trump hates and wants to ship out getting honorary citizenship? I understand I'm vastly oversimplifying this and that's not how it would work. But I would love to see this happen. Here's what I found on Google

8 FAM 306.1-1 Honorary Citizenship
 

Moonbeam

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It's important to understand why politics is a frozen system, in my opinion. The right hates victims having succumbed to Stockholm Syndrome and the left hate themselves as victims. Thus we have basically two types of political animals, those who punish the weak and those who feel won't protect themselves because they were made to feel deserving of victimization. Politics then is a full spectrum self fucking, just opposite reactions to abuse as children.

Owing to the self protective denial called the ego, this will only appear as a matter of my personal opinion. This is where the Oracle hands you a cookie.
 

NWRMidnight

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Jun 18, 2001
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Okay comrade, but remember your opinions are dogshit in the outside world. The vast American mandate for Trump just proved that!
Vast American mandate? I'm sorry, 22% of the US population, or 32% of the eligible voting population is not a vast mandate.. That means at miniimum 2/3 of the American population doesn't support any such mandate, just by the numbers. And many that voted for him, now wish they didn't, because they didn't take the time to listen, look up what he was planning to do, and/or didn't understand any of it when they voted. . So you can get off your bullshit train any time.
 

NWRMidnight

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You know, if people removed that fact that Hunter is Joe's son, this Pardon would be considered using pardoning power just as it's intended, which is pardoning a person, who was unjustly prosecuted by our legal system. The charges against Hunter would have never came about to a normal non related citizen, much less being convicted of such charges. Unlike most pardon's that take place, specially those done by Trump, who pardoned actual criminals who would have been charged/convicted of their crimes no matter their status. But somehow, it's wrong because it's Joe's son, as if Hunter deserved different treatment than anyone else who could be considered for a pardon, all because of that status. Of course, Hunter being treated differently because of being Joe's son, is exactly why the DOJ went after him in the first place, as well as why the plea deal was cancelled after political pressure. It would be unjust for anyone to not give Hunter a pardon, be it Joe or anyone else. But we all know that Trump wouldn't do such a thing, but rather would go after Hunter harder in hopes they could find something to go after Joe for. Even though that is what the Maga congress memebers have been trying to do already, finding nothing.. Anyone who thinks otheriwise is lying to themselves and everyone else around them.
 

QueBert

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You know, if people removed that fact that Hunter is Joe's son, this Pardon would be considered using pardoning power just as it's intended, which is pardoning a person, who was unjustly prosecuted by our legal system. The charges against Hunter would have never came about to a normal non related citizen, much less being convicted of such charges. Unlike most pardon's that take place, specially those done by Trump, who pardoned actual criminals who would have been charged/convicted of their crimes no matter their status. But somehow, it's wrong because it's Joe's son, as if Hunter deserved different treatment than anyone else who could be considered for a pardon, all because of that status. Of course, Hunter being treated differently because of being Joe's son, is exactly why the DOJ went after him in the first place, as well as why the plea deal was cancelled after political pressure. It would be unjust for anyone to not give Hunter a pardon, be it Joe or anyone else. But we all know that Trump wouldn't do such a thing, but rather would go after Hunter harder in hopes they could find something to go after Joe for. Even though that is what the Maga congress memebers have been trying to do already, finding nothing.. Anyone who thinks otheriwise is lying to themselves and everyone else around them.

I agree 100%, and I know it wouldn't have mattered here as people would still be up in arms. But Biden should never publically said he wouldn't pardon Hunter. The MAGAs would still be shitting bricks, I mean these are the same people who still continue to carry on and on about Hunter's laptop, as if they actually saw the content. It's weird how important a laptop that they have no idea what's even on it is to them. Meanwhile, when asked about any and everything Trump has done, they always reply "what proof? what evidence?"

With Trump winning Biden had no choice here, but by him saying last year he wouldn't do it, it's now kinda a lose/lose for him. To add to that, he had to do this for charges that would have gotten me a fairly small fine and a few dozen hours of community service at worst. This is the most necessary pardon for the most unnecessary charges.
 

zinfamous

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He refuses to believe we don't think about India as much as he thinks about the West.

It's not just that, he's mostly incensed that the "woeful plight" of the majority Hindus and their godly mandate to rape and murder all muslims that live around them isn't very well supported here as much as it is in his brain.

he literally can't understand how real humans disagree with his fucking genocidal rape fantasies regarding his neighbors.
 

eelw

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With Trump winning Biden had no choice here, but by him saying last year he wouldn't do it, it's now kinda a lose/lose for him.
And the only talking point the base has. “HE LIED!!!”

Umm really? How does the amount of lying compare to the orange monkey? Or is their point, he’s truthful when it comes to any selfish acts?
 

jmagg

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Politicians are like teenagers, if they're talking they're lying. This is why turnout was so low. The people are smarter than many here think.