Hunter Biden pardoned by President Biden

[jdubs03]

Sure. And any prosecutor probably would have plead that down to essentially a slap on the wrist.

Instead, the witch hunts that trump complains about actually happened to Hunter because his dad is the sitting president

This would be an accurate representation of the situation.

 

[hal2kilo]

Personally I think presidential pardons should be revoked.
Hunter broke the law and should pay the same price as any normal citizen would.

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Which would be, he paid his back taxes and might get 6 months probation at best. That's what happens to normal citizens. I actually just added the 6 months probation so you could sleep at night, knowing such a scoundrel could still be walking the streets.

 

[Zorba]

It’s because he lied on a firearm application form saying he wasn’t using drugs at the time of applying. And he then later admitted to drug use during that timeframe.

Yeah, like I said, I personally know multiple people that should be charged with the same law then.

 

[iRONic]

Yeah, like I said, I personally know multiple people that should be charged with the same law then.

Ohman… I just freaked myself out with the mental list of people that I also know that would be facing a judge for the same thing!!!

 

[ivwshane]

Yeah, like I said, I personally know multiple people that should be charged with the same law then.

Ohman… I just freaked myself out with the mental list of people that I also know that would be facing a judge for the same thing!!!

I’d ask them who they voted for and find out what their take is on Hunter lying on his app. When they tell you that he should be in jail, ask them if they want you to call the cops on them now or later.

 

[manly]

It’s because he lied on a firearm application form saying he wasn’t using drugs at the time of applying. And he then later admitted to drug use during that timeframe.

(Some of) The jurors who convicted him claim they didn't care that he was the son of POTUS. However, I'm still curious what the statute says. Nobody denies Hunter was a drug addict, but IIRC he claims at the time he filled out the application, he was not actively abusing.

Just for the sake of argument, if the prosecution cannot prove he used drugs shortly before he completed the application, is he really guilty or not? If he provably used drugs daily, then yeah he obviously violated the federal statute. But I'm not aware that the prosecution actually met this burden of proof.

This is regardless that he was prosecuted much more heavily for these specific crimes than 99%+ of all offenders.

IANAL.

 

[Moonbeam]

Lots of opinions on this. I can't help but feel that whatever the pros and cons were Biden decided to just do what he wanted. Fuck the consequences is what I see owing to having been knocked out of the running by his own party whey care what the downside is. They weren't there for him so why worry about them. I have a feeling he experienced a massive sense of betrayal, but it's just my opinion. I simply do not know for sure.

Maybe it's just me projecting my own bitterness at all the brain dead in the Democratic party. Oh, he's too old, he did a terrible debate, let's shoot ourselves!

 

[QueBert]

Lots of opinions on this. I can't help but feel that whatever the pros and cons were Biden decided to just do what he wanted. Fuck the consequences is what I see owing to having been knocked out of the running by his own party whey care what the downside is. They weren't there for him so why worry about them. I have a feeling he experienced a massive sense of betrayal, but it's just my opinion. I simply do not know for sure.

Maybe it's just me projecting my own bitterness at all the brain dead in the Democratic party. Oh, he's too old, he did a terrible debate, let's shoot ourselves!

They definitely didn't seem to care about showing support. Some started to act like they gave a shit and spoke after his poor ass debate performance and carried on about how he was still perfectly fine and would be a great leader. But that was likely just damage control. They all came off as full of shit when minutes after he stepped down it became "he did the right thing" The GOP always stood behind Trump even with all the bullshit he does and says. While I find the whole lot of them despicable, I do think the support they openly show for him is commendable. And forever I'll always wonder if Biden could have won if he stayed in the race. And we'll never know for sure if he stepped down because he had had enough, or if he wanted to stay, but Democrats were pressuring him.

And anyone criticizing him for pardoning Hunter would be singing a different tune if they had a son or daughter and Trump was after them. Biden seems like a good human being, I can't imagine pardoning your own child is easy.

 

[Moonbeam]

They definitely didn't seem to care about showing support. Some started to act like they gave a shit and spoke after his poor ass debate performance and carried on about how he was still perfectly fine and would be a great leader. But that was likely just damage control. They all came off as full of shit when minutes after he stepped down it became "he did the right thing" The GOP always stood behind Trump even with all the bullshit he does and says. While I find the whole lot of them despicable, I do think the support they openly show for him is commendable. And forever I'll always wonder if Biden could have won if he stayed in the race. And we'll never know for sure if he stepped down because he had had enough, or if he wanted to stay, but Democrats were pressuring him.

And anyone criticizing him for pardoning Hunter would be singing a different tune if they had a son or daughter and Trump was after them. Biden seems like a good human being, I can't imagine pardoning your own child is easy.

Your words here seem to me to be spoken from a kind and considerate heart and I am glad to have read them.

 

[MrSquished]

I think and I've said that Joe Biden fucked us with his ego by running again. The majority of Democrats polled by far, did not want him to run again. His own base. And he looked at them and said fuck you I'm going to run again. Even though the numbers were terrible about his candidacy.

The fact he denied us a primary is a sin that to me has tarnished his entire legacy. It was the best chance for us to defeat Trump and he stole that from us. I will never forgive him for that.

But that being said I think this pardon was a great move by Biden and in fact I said he should pardon Hunter before the election even happened.

Hunter Biden was the victim of an actual political witch hunt. I absolutely respect Biden's decision to pardon him, and if he didn't I would have questions. How could you leave your son to be hunted by these corrupt motherfuckers? I didn't think he would though.

Anyways both those things can be true. I'm very disappointed and Democrats who are criticizing him for this pardon, I think they should be ashamed. I'm looking at you Governor Newsom.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think and I've said that Joe Biden fucked us with his ego by running again. The majority of Democrats polled by far, did not want him to run again. His own base. And he looked at them and said fuck you I'm going to run again. Even though the numbers were terrible about his candidacy.

The fact he denied us a primary is a sin that to me has tarnished his entire legacy. It was the best chance for us to defeat Trump and he stole that from us. I will never forgive him for that.

But that being said I think this pardon was a great move by Biden and in fact I said he should pardon Hunter before the election even happened.

Hunter Biden was the victim of an actual political witch hunt. I absolutely respect Biden's decision to pardon him, and if he didn't I would have questions. How could you leave your son to be hunted by these corrupt motherfuckers? I didn't think he would though.

Anyways both those things can be true. I'm very disappointed and Democrats who are criticizing him for this pardon, I think they should be ashamed. I'm looking at you Governor Newsom.

It seems odd to me to complain about politicians with ego. Biden was Biden because of his ego. Newsom is the same, in my opinion, a pretty face, a smooth talker, and an empty suit. He doesn't hold a candle to somebody like Sanders, again, in my opinion.

 

[MrSquished]

It seems odd to me to complain about politicians with ego. Biden was Biden because of his ego. Newsom is the same, in my opinion, a pretty face, a smooth talker, and an empty suit. He doesn't hold a candle to somebody like Sanders, again, in my opinion.

What are you even talking about? Ego exists. There are different ways an ego can manifest itself. Biden's ego fucked this country over when he decided to run again when it's very clear he was not the choice OF HIS OWN PARTY and became quite clear during the campaign he did not have it in him.

 

[manly]

What are you even talking about? Ego exists. There are different ways an ego can manifest itself. Biden's ego fucked this country over when he decided to run again when it's very clear he was not the choice OF HIS OWN PARTY and became quite clear during the campaign he did not have it in him.

Not to re-litigate this topic because it's dead and gone but my best buddy swears that Biden couldn't have done as poorly as Harris/Walz did. (I think he would've done even worse.)

Perhaps I should send him this news from yesterday:

Joe Biden falls asleep during the African summit, social media reacts

 

[QueBert]

Not to re-litigate this topic because it's dead and gone but my best buddy swears that Biden couldn't have done as poorly as Harris/Walz did. (I think he would've done even worse.)

Perhaps I should send him this news from yesterday:

Joe Biden falls asleep during the African summit, social media reacts

The Dems did terribly across the board, these elections made me wonder about the country as a whole. Trump's the worst, and pretty much the entire GOP supports him which makes them just as bad. Yet they somehow won control of basically everything. I know millions of people didn't vote, but the ones who did are clearly okay with shit. And I refuse to believe Trump got enough to make a difference from people who didn't like him but still voted for him because "eggs cost too much!" That's an absurdity.

Yesterday I paid $4.85 for a dozen eggs at Aldis, which is the cheapest store anywhere lol.

 

[jdubs03]

The Dems did terribly across the board, these elections made me wonder about the country as a whole. Trump's the worst, and pretty much the entire GOP supports him which makes them just as bad. Yet they somehow won control of basically everything. I know millions of people didn't vote, but the ones who did are clearly okay with shit. And I refuse to believe Trump got enough to make a difference from people who didn't like him but still voted for him because "eggs cost too much!" That's an absurdity.

Yesterday I paid $4.85 for a dozen eggs at Aldis, which is the cheapest store anywhere lol.

If things turn out the way I think it will, the Dems will regain a trifecta. Just look at all these clowns and suck ups he’s putting into the cabinet. That’s not inconsequential.

 

[eelw]

If things turn out the way I think it will, the Dems will regain a trifecta. Just look at all these clowns and suck ups he’s putting into the cabinet. That’s not inconsequential.

But the damage over this coming term will take a long time to fix.

 

[jdubs03]

But the damage over this coming term will take a long time to fix.

Perhaps. Right now in Congress the GQP will have a razor thin margin. For the first few months they’ll have effectively a 217-215 margin. The Redumblicans couldn’t get their shit together with passing legislation when having a couple more Reps. Me thinks it’ll be much tough this go around. But yeah tariffs is the #1 issue for the foreseeable future.

For example:


If he puts a 25% tariff on imports from Mexico, uh yeah you’re going to piss off a lot of people.

 

[QueBert]

If he puts a 25% tariff on imports from Mexico, uh yeah you’re going to piss off a lot of people.

But they're not gonna be mad at him, if people didn't get angry for the shit he did his 1st term, I don't possibly see how they can feel any differently this go-round. I would assume the idiots who aren't MAGA but voted for him will get mad here, but I also was sure he wouldn't get many non MAGA votes. So apparently I know nothing anymore.

 

[jdubs03]

But they're not gonna be mad at him, if people didn't get angry for the shit he did his 1st term, I don't possibly see how they can feel any differently this go-round. I would assume the idiots who aren't MAGA but voted for him will get mad here, but I also was sure he wouldn't get many non MAGA votes. So apparently I know nothing anymore.

I’ll frame it this way:
Maybe most of the diehard GQPs won’t be mad. But it’s a direct causation so if they’re being honest, they won’t have anyone else to blame. Those are the people we call completely lost. However, in that infamous center to center right, those people will be and they’ll know where to place to blame. If I’m wrong then we’re truly fucked.

 

[hal2kilo]

If things turn out the way I think it will, the Dems will regain a trifecta. Just look at all these clowns and suck ups he’s putting into the cabinet. That’s not inconsequential.

If we are aloud to vote again.

 

[compcons]

I’ll frame it this way:
Maybe most of the diehard GQPs won’t be mad. But it’s a direct causation so if they’re being honest, they won’t have anyone else to blame. Those are the people we call completely lost. However, in that infamous center to center right, those people will be and they’ll know where to place to blame. If I’m wrong then we’re truly fucked.

I think you give too much credit to people and their ability to understand cause and effect. Seriously, go have an actual conversation where you point out direct correlation and they will stare at you blankly. I am not talking the dumbass people. Legitimately smart people who vote R all the time. The conservative brain struggles with causation (and empathy, but that's a different topic). I don't think it's simple indifference. They are broken.

This is why Kamala lost.

 

[nakedfrog]

Politicians are like teenagers, if they're talking they're lying. This is why turnout was so low. The people are smarter than many here think.

As someone who's worked on user-facing applications for over two decades, I disagree with your assessment.

 

[MrSquished]

One thing we learned is the mainstream media is perfectly capable of throwing an outrageous scandal party, just not when Trump does most of the shit he does.

 

[iRONic]

If I’m wrong then we’re truly fucked.

You are.

We are.

 

[Brainonska511]

One thing we learned is the mainstream media is perfectly capable of throwing an outrageous scandal party, just not when Trump does most of the shit he does.

Yes. The media can absolutely drive narratives, and it drives me bonkers when they act all high and mighty and claim they can't, proceed to provide false balanced coverage (eg, a scandal for a "scandal"), and sane wash shit so it doesn't sound so bonkers.

Some of it is also being driven by billionaire owners, like the one that owns the LA Times, who claimed on CNN the other day that they are just looking for more factual reporting, which really translates to stories like X said "blah" and Y said "anti-blah", but we're not going to dig further into who is closer to the truth, and leave you, dear reader with a false picture of the news.