HS Student pushes to start caucasian club, meets resistance

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Fausto

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
I've always liked the idea of starting up the United Caucasion College Fund and seeing how many people balk at the idea.
So....other than pissing people off.....what's the point?



 

BatmanNate

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Now all these posts an no Spac3d intruding to spew his stupid ass racist "I hate white people" BS? Oh that's right, he's BANNED! Carry on then. :)
 

QueHuong

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Originally posted by: Hoober
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: Hoober
So are you one of those people that believes the minority should get the job because the company will then fill their quota for minorities on payroll? I believe organizations like these are discriminatory.
Yep, I'm one of those people. Its funny that in situations like affirmative action, you automatically assume that all "white" applicants are better qualified for the job than all of the other non-"white" applicants. Yea, lets get rid of affirmative action since discrimination didn't occur before affirmative action nor will it happen after abolishing it.

What's amazing is how people are more than happy to go along with them out of guilt, but balk at the idea of a "white" club. Tell me, honestly, what's the difference between a Black Student Union and a White Student Union? One has minorities so therefore they should be allowed to band together?
LOL, you are sadly mistaken. I wouldn't have any problem with a club that say was a Chess Club who had all white members. Also, these so called "Asian" and "Hispanic" clubs allow any person from any walk of life to join. When a club is labeled a "White" club, it has historical significance behind it. For example, if someone started a Hitler club that had nothing to do with Adolf Hitler, there would still be resistance against it.

Ok, but a "Hitler" club has many problems with it. We're not talking about a "white" club. This is a "Caucasian" club. Who cares if the KKK is made up of white anglos? It has nothing to do with the Caucasian club being formed.

As far as affirmitive action, I absolutely despise the idea that minority would be hired over a caucasian if their qualifications are exactly the same. That's discrimination.

Yes, I'd agree with you on people with the best qualification should get the job, but only if until blacks can walk into a bank to take out a loan without being pre-judged, until Mexicans can get as good a deal as non-Hispanic whites do when buying a car, and until the murderer of Alex Chin is convicted.
 

SuperTool

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What if he was Armenian, and wanted to start a Caucasian club to bring people with ancestry from the Caucases together?
 

minendo

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Originally posted by: Mani
Tell me, if there were a white club, can you count on people being there that will share your upbringing, interests, and culture that you wouldn't be able to meet in your day to day life?
Couldn't tell you since there is no "white" club. Blacks can meet blacks on a day to day basis, as can asians, indians, etc.

 

QueHuong

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
I've always liked the idea of starting up the United Caucasion College Fund and seeing how many people balk at the idea.

That's the exact point I'm trying to make. This girl, like so many other white people who promote the creation of a white club, is doing to either annoy the minorities or is doing out of feelings of exclusion. The first reason is just stupid. The second reason is almost just as stupid. They're already in the majority, while many others feel excluded. And now they want to make the minorities feel exluded even more. What a great first step towards equality! On the other hand, like I said, minority groups are there so those people can interact with one another and raise awareness. Their agenda isn't to "get back" at the majority, unlike people with feldenak's mindset.

 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: MindStorm
Originally posted by: Feldenak
I've always liked the idea of starting up the United Caucasion College Fund and seeing how many people balk at the idea.

That's the exact point I'm trying to make. This girl, like so many other white people who promote the creation of a white club, is doing to either annoy the minorities or is doing out of feelings of exclusion. The first reason is just stupid. The second reason is almost just as stupid. They're already in the majority, while many others feel excluded. And now they want to make the minorities feel exluded even more. What a great first step towards equality! On the other hand, like I said, minority groups are there so those people can interact with one another and raise awareness. Their agenda isn't to "get back" at the majority, unlike people with feldenak's mindset.
Nicely stated. :beer::)

 

Chunkee

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When I was in college I experienced some simliar discrimination. There was a young man passsing out KKK and white supremacy pamphlet; not forcing it, just passing them out. There was another "black pride" semi-militant groupd doing the same thing; the white kid was suspended.

Like the story in this thread.....discrimination exists everywhere and its ALL BS!!!

How about a White MS. TEEN America....

There should be NO toleration of this kind of crap...it is too bad more people dont stand up to it and make a protest.

JC
 

Chunkee

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: MindStorm
Originally posted by: Feldenak
I've always liked the idea of starting up the United Caucasion College Fund and seeing how many people balk at the idea.

That's the exact point I'm trying to make. This girl, like so many other white people who promote the creation of a white club, is doing to either annoy the minorities or is doing out of feelings of exclusion. The first reason is just stupid. The second reason is almost just as stupid. They're already in the majority, while many others feel excluded. And now they want to make the minorities feel exluded even more. What a great first step towards equality! On the other hand, like I said, minority groups are there so those people can interact with one another and raise awareness. Their agenda isn't to "get back" at the majority, unlike people with feldenak's mindset.
Nicely stated. :beer::)

HOOEY!
 

Richdog

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The reason white clubs do not ans should not exist is because we are NOT the minority. Black, Asian etc. clubs exist because they are an ethnic minority in what is primarily a white country. White's have not EVER suffered racism on the scale of the Asians or Blacks, so to whine about not being able to have a White club is ridiculous in the extreme. White people have a long history of being incredible racist, and while that is now starting to improve it is a difficult legacy to shake off. So, yes, a White club is an incredibly stupid and inconsiderate thing to suggest and promote, and is no doubt highly offensive to those minorities who it patronizes. :beer:
 

Chunkee

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Originally posted by: Richdog
The reason white clubs do not ans should not exist is because we are NOT the minority. Black, Asian etc. clubs exist because they are an ethnic minority in what is primarily a white country. White's have not EVER suffered racism on the scale of the Asians or Blacks, so to whine about not being able to have a White club is ridiculous in the extreme. White people have a long history of being incredible racist, and while that is now starting to improve it is a difficult legacy to shake off. So, yes, a White club is an incredibly stupid and inconsiderate thing to suggest and promote, and is no doubt highly offensive to those minorities who it patronizes. :beer:

what a crock of SH)$!
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: Feldenak
I've always liked the idea of starting up the United Caucasion College Fund and seeing how many people balk at the idea.

I'll do it one day.
 

SuperTool

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Originally posted by: Richdog
The reason white clubs do not ans should not exist is because we are NOT the minority. Black, Asian etc. clubs exist because they are an ethnic minority in what is primarily a white country. White's have not EVER suffered racism on the scale of the Asians or Blacks, so to whine about not being able to have a White club is ridiculous in the extreme. White people have a long history of being incredible racist, and while that is now starting to improve it is a difficult legacy to shake off. So, yes, a White club is an incredibly stupid and inconsiderate thing to suggest and promote, and is no doubt highly offensive to those minorities who it patronizes. :beer:

In my HS, whites were a minority. I think it was about 70% hombres, 20% brothers, 9% miscellanous FOB's and 1% whities.
 

QueHuong

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Originally posted by: Chunkee
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: MindStorm
Originally posted by: Feldenak
I've always liked the idea of starting up the United Caucasion College Fund and seeing how many people balk at the idea.

That's the exact point I'm trying to make. This girl, like so many other white people who promote the creation of a white club, is doing to either annoy the minorities or is doing out of feelings of exclusion. The first reason is just stupid. The second reason is almost just as stupid. They're already in the majority, while many others feel excluded. And now they want to make the minorities feel exluded even more. What a great first step towards equality! On the other hand, like I said, minority groups are there so those people can interact with one another and raise awareness. Their agenda isn't to "get back" at the majority, unlike people with feldenak's mindset.
Nicely stated. :beer::)

HOOEY!

I'm convinced by your compelling argument!
 

Chunkee

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Originally posted by: MindStorm
Originally posted by: Chunkee
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: MindStorm
Originally posted by: Feldenak
I've always liked the idea of starting up the United Caucasion College Fund and seeing how many people balk at the idea.

That's the exact point I'm trying to make. This girl, like so many other white people who promote the creation of a white club, is doing to either annoy the minorities or is doing out of feelings of exclusion. The first reason is just stupid. The second reason is almost just as stupid. They're already in the majority, while many others feel excluded. And now they want to make the minorities feel exluded even more. What a great first step towards equality! On the other hand, like I said, minority groups are there so those people can interact with one another and raise awareness. Their agenda isn't to "get back" at the majority, unlike people with feldenak's mindset.
Nicely stated. :beer::)

HOOEY!

I'm convinced by your compelling argument!

How very nice for you! We are glad!
 

QueHuong

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Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: Mani
Tell me, if there were a white club, can you count on people being there that will share your upbringing, interests, and culture that you wouldn't be able to meet in your day to day life?
Couldn't tell you since there is no "white" club. Blacks can meet blacks on a day to day basis, as can asians, indians, etc.

*Whoooshhh right over his head*

Mani is saying for the most part, you see white people everywhere. Walk down your dorm hall, down the street, into baseball games, etc and you can find other white people who share your caucasian ancestry. It's much harder for Asians or Indians to find other Asians or Indians. The first comprise of 5% of the population, the latter (as in Native Americans) comprise of less than 1%. Your agument, to quote that moron chunkee, is "a crock of SH)$!"
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: Richdog
The reason white clubs do not ans should not exist is because we are NOT the minority. Black, Asian etc. clubs exist because they are an ethnic minority in what is primarily a white country. White's have not EVER suffered racism on the scale of the Asians or Blacks, so to whine about not being able to have a White club is ridiculous in the extreme. White people have a long history of being incredible racist, and while that is now starting to improve it is a difficult legacy to shake off. So, yes, a White club is an incredibly stupid and inconsiderate thing to suggest and promote, and is no doubt highly offensive to those minorities who it patronizes. :beer:

So in 5 years time, it'll be okay for there to be a white club, but not a hispanic club? Shut up and get your head out of your ass - it's either all or nothing. _NONE_ of the affected asians and blacks have experienced any more racism than the affected whites.

Oh, and what about the Jew club? Aren't they mostly white? And the Christian club?

Speaking as a white person, I've experienced PLENTY of discrimination in my life. "Shut up whitey, go back to your Klan meeting."

Hell, once I was called into the office of the school for parking my pickup next to some black guy's Mustang. He 'thought' that I was threatening racial violence, and they took away my parking pass (And then I went and got a faculty parking pass through other channels)

This whole white=racist form of racism has to stop.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: se7enty7
``It'd be tight because they can learn more about their history,'' said 14-year-old Tyleisha Crooks, a fellow freshman at Freedom who is black.

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good thing they told us she was black.
Couldn't you tell she was black from her name and her slang?
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: minendo
Originally posted by: Mani
Tell me, if there were a white club, can you count on people being there that will share your upbringing, interests, and culture that you wouldn't be able to meet in your day to day life?
Couldn't tell you since there is no "white" club. Blacks can meet blacks on a day to day basis, as can asians, indians, etc.

What mindstorm said. :)
 

Richdog

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Originally posted by: Chunkee
Originally posted by: Richdog
The reason white clubs do not and should not exist is because we are NOT the minority. Black, Asian etc. clubs exist because they are an ethnic minority in what is primarily a white country. White's have not EVER suffered racism on the scale of the Asians or Blacks, so to whine about not being able to have a White club is ridiculous in the extreme. White people have a long history of being incredibly racist, and while that is now starting to improve it is a difficult legacy to shake off. So, yes, a White club is an incredibly stupid and inconsiderate thing to suggest and promote, and is no doubt highly offensive to those minorities who it patronizes. :beer:

what a crock of SH)$!


Nope it's not a crock of sh|t i'm afraid, nothing i said there was remotely untrue or unreasonable, maybe you either need to wait till you grow up a bit or study some more current affairs to understand it, or at least provide me with an intelligent explanation of why you think i'm wrong. And if anyone thinks white's have experienced racism on anything like the scale of Blacks or Asians then you must have had your head buried in the sand. Why do you think these minority groups exist in the first place? :beer:
 

Hoober

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Originally posted by: Richdog
The reason white clubs do not ans should not exist is because we are NOT the minority. Black, Asian etc. clubs exist because they are an ethnic minority in what is primarily a white country. White's have not EVER suffered racism on the scale of the Asians or Blacks, so to whine about not being able to have a White club is ridiculous in the extreme. White people have a long history of being incredible racist, and while that is now starting to improve it is a difficult legacy to shake off. So, yes, a White club is an incredibly stupid and inconsiderate thing to suggest and promote, and is no doubt highly offensive to those minorities who it patronizes. :beer:

Just to get back to affirmative action for a moment...

If there are two equally qualified applicants and one is a minority and the company hires the minority, don't you think that's racist? Wouldn't that be discriminating against Caucasians?
 

SinnerWolf

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Legally there's nothing they can do to stop any ethnic organization so long as it isn't promoting malicious deeds or demeanor. I don't see anything wrong with it, in fact it's a good test of equality. When you apply for college you check your ethnicity box, hispanic, asian, native american, caucasian, etc...declaring your heritage to the university as a part of your acceptance to the school is all the legal ground you need to start an organization. If any single one is allowed, they all should be allowed regardless of race density.

This issue has nothing to do with majority vs minority and everything to do with equality. Would it make a differbence in your already underdog-driven mind if the organization was established in a non-white community (harlem, 'china town', etc...)? What about an international school in Thailand, Kenya, Saudi Arabia (let's just say on U.S.A declared soil, bases, or compounds to avoid confusing the issue)?

Those of you with KKK references might as well be honorary members for propogating hate, bias, prejudice, and racism.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: MindStorm
Originally posted by: Chunkee
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: MindStorm
Originally posted by: Feldenak
I've always liked the idea of starting up the United Caucasion College Fund and seeing how many people balk at the idea.

That's the exact point I'm trying to make. This girl, like so many other white people who promote the creation of a white club, is doing to either annoy the minorities or is doing out of feelings of exclusion. The first reason is just stupid. The second reason is almost just as stupid. They're already in the majority, while many others feel excluded. And now they want to make the minorities feel exluded even more. What a great first step towards equality! On the other hand, like I said, minority groups are there so those people can interact with one another and raise awareness. Their agenda isn't to "get back" at the majority, unlike people with feldenak's mindset.
Nicely stated. :beer::)

HOOEY!

I'm convinced by your compelling argument!
Now, now....be nice. That was the biggest word Chunkee could spell. I think he gets an "A" for effort given his limited mental capabilities.

 

ElFenix

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how ironic

Elliott Perez, 14, a sophomore at Freedom who is Latino and white, also said the school could benefit from McClelland's club.
latino and white? well that narrows it down to: french, spanish, portuguese, italian, romanian, and white south americans.
 

QueHuong

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: Richdog
The reason white clubs do not ans should not exist is because we are NOT the minority. Black, Asian etc. clubs exist because they are an ethnic minority in what is primarily a white country. White's have not EVER suffered racism on the scale of the Asians or Blacks, so to whine about not being able to have a White club is ridiculous in the extreme. White people have a long history of being incredible racist, and while that is now starting to improve it is a difficult legacy to shake off. So, yes, a White club is an incredibly stupid and inconsiderate thing to suggest and promote, and is no doubt highly offensive to those minorities who it patronizes. :beer:

So in 5 years time, it'll be okay for there to be a white club, but not a hispanic club? Shut up and get your head out of your ass - it's either all or nothing. _NONE_ of the affected asians and blacks have experienced any more racism than the affected whites.

Oh, and what about the Jew club? Aren't they mostly white? And the Christian club?

Speaking as a white person, I've experienced PLENTY of discrimination in my life. "Shut up whitey, go back to your Klan meeting."

Hell, once I was called into the office of the school for parking my pickup next to some black guy's Mustang. He 'thought' that I was threatening racial violence, and they took away my parking pass (And then I went and got a faculty parking pass through other channels)

This whole white=racist form of racism has to stop.


Holy cow, at first, I thought this was just a tongue in cheek crap spewing, but now I see you actually...ACTUALLY believe whites face more discrimination than anyone else. :Q Just because you yourself face discrimination, doesn't mean suddenly, all whites are now the most oppressed group. I don't think whites have been lynched nor have they been dragged by their testicles on a rope across New York City for their race. Secondly, Jews weren't discriminated because they were white - it was for their religious beliefs. My god, you are one idiotic person. Same goes for the Christians. Likewise, Asian Christians were oppresssed for their religious beliefs, but no one with common sense would conclude Asians are the most discriminated against group from that fact alone. And let's not forget Christians did their fair share of terrorizing, but that's another issue. All you did was put 2 and 2 together to get 100, and you post that answer on a public forum so all can see how dumb you are. Really, you should shut up.