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Yep, I think the kids should be able to start a club. The double standard is not ok, but it happens.
Triumph
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Ok, so blacks are allowed to have their own groups because they've been put down by the white man, but whites can't have their own groups because they haven't been put down by the black man. Well, then lets just give the blacks some more privelages that the whites can't have, because they deserve it for being oppressed. Statistics show that on average, whites make more money than blacks. And because this economic disadvantage is caused by past oppressive activities of the white man, from now on, blacks do not have to pay taxes. This would help the black communities raise their economic status immensely, bringing them in line with the average white person, and leading to a Utopian society. And that's what it's really all about, isn't it? The ends justifying the means?
The vast majority of it WAS tongue in cheek. Up until the last sentence really. I know that in the past there have been issues, and even today there are still isolated incidents.
The intent of my post was to 1) Call attention to itself by making me look like a retard and 2) Call attention to the stupidity of half this thread in the last sentence.
I think it succeeded.
Judging from the yearbook pics the school is predominately white. Different schools have different cultural make ups. Imagine if this was a school with a white minority. The question of a club wouldn't even be proposed. If you don't see harm in one type of club you should be able to see the potential for good in any other type. The argument that the US has been an All Caucasian club is ok, I guess, but bigotry lies in between these lines as well. Irish, Italians, Poles ,etc., let alone the relgious differences. I think the argument for clubs along racial/ethnic lines lies in the membership of the regular clubs, Key club etc., usually being predominately white. Of course, that depends on the school.
Should they have their own club? Sure, why not. It shouldn't cause any more harm than any of the other clubs.
Should they have their own club? Sure, why not. It shouldn't cause any more harm than any of the other clubs.
I just don't understand your line of reasoning. You bring up one exception and forcefully mold it to apply to the real world as if it was the truth. I've been to Purdue...it was my top pick for an engineering school until I got a better deal elsewhere. So yes, I am familiar with the student body. I did notice Asians (not including Native Americans) comprise a significant portion of the population...but by no means anywhere near the majority. I may have to walk past 15 white person before I come upon an Asian person. But how many white people will I have to walk by to come across a black person? Hispanic? Native American?
Even with the slightly higher than average Asian population at Purdue, that still doesn't negate Asians holding a 5% figure in the US population. Purdue is an engineering school; many Asians go into engineering; Purdue is just an exception. Go elsewhere in the midwest, that 5% Asian population will be compromised by a nearly 0% in various high schools, neighborhoods, etc. Again, the same apply for the other minority groups. Honestly, did you even think about any of that before firing that counterargument you gave above?
So on average, for about every 71 white people or so, there's only 12 Hispanics, 12 blacks, 5 Asians, and 1 Native American. And then the majority wonder why there isn't a club for them.
If anyone would like to voice their opinion in a constructive manner, feel free to e-mail Eric Volta, Freedom High School principal: Eric Volta
Siddhartha
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Siddhartha
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You make sense and this probably explains why there aren't clubs for caucasians in this country's schools. These are children though, and since there are no clubs for white children some of them have to wonder why so many have sprouted for non white kids.
I mean, the Key Club,et al aren't about understanding your racial history. Kids would like to know more.
The only racial heritage I read about concerning the white american majority focuses on their flaws, as if that's the only part that matters. There's a whole lot more there to be learned but it's really about how does this group fit in with the rest of the world that these kids want to know about. The old who am I? question
So let them have their club. I don't think it necessarily has to be racist. I like the reactions of their non white friends who signed their petition. That's the attitude there and I think it's fine.
This would be a weird situation, IMO. Isn't the point of these minority groups to be a meeting place for these people, which would be hard if the club didn't exist. You would need a club/organization to gather at. What's the point of a Caucasian Club if 80% of a school is caucasian? There would be a 'club meeting' in every hallway. However, an Irish American or German Club should be OK. I think people are wary when the majority form a club/organization because eventually it would seem exclusionary or discriminatory.
I'm not white just to clear that out. I'm not speaking for everyone but this is my opinion. For example my friend is white and he was asking a black guy for directions my friend just stared at him at first to ask him the question then the black guy gives them this look making it seem that my friend was racist. Also, I see this in the media also like all these black movies they always make fun of the white guy.What happens if you see a white movie making fun of black guys.They're going to think it's racist. In other words people that say white people are racist for stupid reasons are the real racists.
I'm also sick of it's because i'm black crap.My teacher was telling me a story about how he sended people to do work then whenever he sended the black guy.The black guy yells"it's because i'm black". So the following to play a cruel joke on the black guy he seperated people by race to work on something.
I'm also sick of it's because i'm black crap.My teacher was telling me a story about how he sended people to do work then whenever he sended the black guy.The black guy yells"it's because i'm black". So the following to play a cruel joke on the black guy he seperated people by race to work on something.
alkemyst
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I think it's utter bs that you cannot have a caucasian club....along the same lines there are no caucasian only scholarships (imagine what would happen if there were....however there are 'minority of your choice'-only scholarships across the board).
In Miami there are places without english including McDonalds (which only has it in fine print)...the spanish people there were trying to push to make Spanish the spoken language of all Florida.. To be this is minority excessiveness.
I am not a racist, so don't read me the wrong way, but I see so much reverese-racism that it's starting to piss me off...especially when those people exploiting something due to race only brag about it. In my Computer Science classes I was pretty good, however I was paying my own way and had to work....almost all the minority guys and females had scholarships coming out their ears, driving the newest cars, newest clothes, partying, joining every 'resume friendly' club they could.....in two years even working I ended up $32k in debt going to a state school, go figure. One guy had $10k in debt going into the program, we walked out with (day trading included) almost $25k ahead.
Now I get undersold as far as labor goes since I have $238 I have to pay each month to DirectLoans.....any scholarship rider can under sell me by almost $2 per hour and still have the same buying power as me....that's a hair over $4k a year.
Also I have known of some minorities that purposely used the affirmative action thing to get job security and at the same time admit they are slackers....I am glad that is getting phased out...you still have the baby boomers who learned oppression against blacks (I hate that 'grouping', but take it at face value), but many of today's young and up and coming have no deference to black or white and would date either if attracted....it's even trendy. Almost all the original stereotypes were based on ignorance/fear, however many of the things 'the white man' did to 'the black man' actually is now showing up with many black men leading the way in athletics. Slavery was an adtrocity (sp?), at least there were some benefits from the cruelity, although I am sure many men and women would hang up those benefits to save even a few horribly tortured and killed.
I really think everyone is on an almost even playing field now, you got the KKK, but you also got black, spanish, asian, etc groups hunting whites. You have white leaders, black leaders, etc....sure no President yet, but I will bet most of those in the 30 and younger crowd will see at least one Black or some other non-white man win the Presidency or come damn close.
In Miami there are places without english including McDonalds (which only has it in fine print)...the spanish people there were trying to push to make Spanish the spoken language of all Florida.. To be this is minority excessiveness.
I am not a racist, so don't read me the wrong way, but I see so much reverese-racism that it's starting to piss me off...especially when those people exploiting something due to race only brag about it. In my Computer Science classes I was pretty good, however I was paying my own way and had to work....almost all the minority guys and females had scholarships coming out their ears, driving the newest cars, newest clothes, partying, joining every 'resume friendly' club they could.....in two years even working I ended up $32k in debt going to a state school, go figure. One guy had $10k in debt going into the program, we walked out with (day trading included) almost $25k ahead.
Now I get undersold as far as labor goes since I have $238 I have to pay each month to DirectLoans.....any scholarship rider can under sell me by almost $2 per hour and still have the same buying power as me....that's a hair over $4k a year.
Also I have known of some minorities that purposely used the affirmative action thing to get job security and at the same time admit they are slackers....I am glad that is getting phased out...you still have the baby boomers who learned oppression against blacks (I hate that 'grouping', but take it at face value), but many of today's young and up and coming have no deference to black or white and would date either if attracted....it's even trendy. Almost all the original stereotypes were based on ignorance/fear, however many of the things 'the white man' did to 'the black man' actually is now showing up with many black men leading the way in athletics. Slavery was an adtrocity (sp?), at least there were some benefits from the cruelity, although I am sure many men and women would hang up those benefits to save even a few horribly tortured and killed.
I really think everyone is on an almost even playing field now, you got the KKK, but you also got black, spanish, asian, etc groups hunting whites. You have white leaders, black leaders, etc....sure no President yet, but I will bet most of those in the 30 and younger crowd will see at least one Black or some other non-white man win the Presidency or come damn close.
Just out of curiosity, if there was a white club and the school had a food festival, what would members of the white club bring?
I didn't read the thread, but it makes absolutely no sense that there can be a Asian Club, a Black Club, and not a White Club.
We're so fscking programmed, it's unbelievable. Think about it folks.
We're so fscking programmed, it's unbelievable. Think about it folks.
Chaotic42
Lifer
- Jun 15, 2001
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Well, CBS is the AARP channel. The old people club.
I say take the high road. All of these other clubs see themselves as black or Asian, or whatever. Yeah, I'm white, but that's not really important. Those white students should just let the other clubs wallow around in their meetings and their concern about their own race.
Let's do something positive instead of stooping down to their level.
I say take the high road. All of these other clubs see themselves as black or Asian, or whatever. Yeah, I'm white, but that's not really important. Those white students should just let the other clubs wallow around in their meetings and their concern about their own race.
Let's do something positive instead of stooping down to their level.
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