HR 1 urgently needs to pass through filibuster

[K1052]

At a minimum they think fascism is preferable to having the democrats in power. Once the GOP gets executive power next I think there’s a strong chance they will refuse to give it up.

Might not need to wait that long. What happens in 2024 when some GOP legislature awards their state's EVs to a candidate who didn't actually win the election there?

 

[weblooker2021]

7 minutes, that was fast. MrSquished must have a lot of pull.

Maybe MrSquished can get me some of their discounted stocks as a favor as well

 

[fskimospy]

Might not need to wait that long. What happens in 2024 when some GOP legislature awards their state's EVs to a candidate who didn't actually win the election there?

If it would be decisive I think the odds of them attempting it would be very high. I also think if they did it with a Democrat controlling the federal executive there would be a real possibility of civil conflict.

 

[K1052]

If it would be decisive I think the odds of them attempting it would be very high. I also think if they did it with a Democrat controlling the federal executive there would be a real possibility of civil conflict.

yep

 

[fskimospy]

yep

This is why I think they might wait until a Republican controls the presidency. If they attempted a legislative coup in 2024 for example with Biden controlling the army and federal law enforcement it could get very ugly. If a republican controls them and it’s simply them refusing to surrender power or odds of winning the conflict are much higher.

And if anyone thinks I’m nuts for saying this you’re dangerously underestimating the danger our democracy faces from a radicalized and corrupt Republican Party.

 

[K1052]

This is why I think they might wait until a Republican controls the presidency. If they attempted a legislative coup in 2024 for example with Biden controlling the army and federal law enforcement it could get very ugly. If a republican controls them and it’s simply them refusing to surrender power or odds of winning the conflict are much higher.

And if anyone thinks I’m nuts for saying this you’re dangerously underestimating the danger our democracy faces from a radicalized and corrupt Republican Party.

I'm not saying it would be the smart move but I could definitely see it happening in 2024. Just need the right demagogue to whip them up again.

 

[fskimospy]

I also think people underestimate how close Trump came to a coup in 2020. People said he was dumb to push at Georgia because even if he were successful it wouldn’t change the results but to me that just shows they didn’t understand what he was doing.

He picked Georgia because the results were very close and republicans controlled everything so his chances at flipping the state were probably best there. The goal was to get one non-critical state to invalidate its results and then use that precedent to make it easier to flip the states that actually mattered. If Georgia hadn’t held is everyone e sure the decisive states would have? I’m not at all sure.

 

[nickqt]

I also think people underestimate how close Trump came to a coup in 2020. People said he was dumb to push at Georgia because even if he were successful it wouldn’t change the results but to me that just shows they didn’t understand what he was doing.

He picked Georgia because the results were very close and republicans controlled everything so his chances at flipping the state were probably best there. The goal was to get one non-critical state to invalidate its results and then use that precedent to make it easier to flip the states that actually mattered. If Georgia hadn’t held is everyone e sure the decisive states would have? I’m not at all sure.

Georgia was as critical as any other swing state that switched over from 2016 to 2020. Just flipping one of the swing states that changed wouldn't have been enough in itself. Hell, Georgia has more EC votes than Wisconsin and Arizona, the same as Michigan, and slightly less than Pennsylvania. Just because Georgia had been solidly Republican doesn't change the fact that every EC vote counts. And you also have to factor in a 269-269 tie in the EC results in a House Election of Trump.

But he didn't just push Georgia. He pushed Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Georgia was just the most public because the SoS recorded and released the call. In other states, Republican State Legislators carried the weight in trying to overturn the election results.

Trump brought Michigan Republican legislators to the White House to convince them of...something. Republican Legislators in Wisconsin wrote a letter to Pence asking him not to certify the election results. Etc.

And we're not even really dwelling on the fact that 93% of House Republicans voted in favor of violent insurrections against the US Government if the Republican candidate for President loses. A mere 86% of Senate Republicans voted in favor of violent insurrections against the US Government if the Republican candidate for President loses.

While the "guardrails" held, no one knows what would have happened had even one state went ahead and not certified Biden's win, and instead appointed their own slate of Republican EC voters because of "election fraud" or whatever. One state makes it easier for another state to do the same thing, and now we literally have a scenario where NOT committing fraud to help the current President who is about to "win" re-election is not just a bad move for that politician in their internal party political structure, but a bad move because the sitting President and President-elect is going to be gunning for you.

Not only was the 2020 election extremely close because 43,000 votes in 3 states gave Biden the win, it was close because just one guardrail being destroyed could have led to the country going over the cliff, permanently.

 

[MrSquished]

The Republicans in the Georgia House just narrowly passed an amendement to repeal a Jet Fuel tax break that helps Delta, in retaliation for them speaking out against anti-democratic voter suppression. Unbelievable. These people are just straight up deplorables and they don't care to hide it anymore because the whole gang is one and the same.

 

[ch33zw1z]

The Republicans in the Georgia House just narrowly passed an amendement to repeal a Jet Fuel tax break that helps Delta, in retaliation for them speaking out against anti-democratic voter suppression. Unbelievable. These people are just straight up deplorables and they don't care to hide it anymore because the whole gang is one and the same.

the resident totally-didn't-vote-for-trump-troll will be along any minute to rebuke this obvious big government virtue signaling, cancel culture, and free speech violation.

 

[K1052]

The Republicans in the Georgia House just narrowly passed an amendement to repeal a Jet Fuel tax break that helps Delta, in retaliation for them speaking out against anti-democratic voter suppression. Unbelievable. These people are just straight up deplorables and they don't care to hide it anymore because the whole gang is one and the same.

Senate failed to take it up though. The realtime breakup of the state level GOPs and big corps is something.

The ground in GA is shifting more rapidly than perhaps anywhere in the country as the ATL metro explodes with growth. What took 10 years in VA might only take a few in GA.

 

[nOOky]

What's that saying about republicans abandoning democracy before abandoning the party...?

The lengths these tools will go to suppress voters...instead of making some policy that might actually get people to vote for them...jeez...

Republicans cannot promote any policy that benefits people, mostly because they have been mind-fucking their voters into thinking that anything for the public good is actually bad, and socialism. Since it's what the Demoncrats do, promote ideas for the betterment of the whole, they soundly reject that, and keep voting for tax cuts for the rich, and lowered environmental standards for businesses to pollute the environment so the rich an reap more rewards. They simply believe if they work hard enough and kill themselves to earn crappy wages doing jobs that "anyone can do" they are sticking it to the man, somehow.

 

[HomerJS]

The Republicans in the Georgia House just narrowly passed an amendement to repeal a Jet Fuel tax break that helps Delta, in retaliation for them speaking out against anti-democratic voter suppression. Unbelievable. These people are just straight up deplorables and they don't care to hide it anymore because the whole gang is one and the same.

Another position they claim to cherish but are just peddling bullshit. 1A my ass

 

[MrSquished]

GOP in Texas starting to speak out about punishing companies who speak out against voter suppression. GOP, the fascist party of real cancel culture. Anyone who still considers themselves a Republican and can look in the mirror is just horrible. I get it if you don't want to be a Democrat, but go Independent. The GOP is unsalvageable and a horrible party all around.

 

[zinfamous]

GOP in Texas starting to speak out about punishing companies who speak out against voter suppression. GOP, the fascist party of real cancel culture. Anyone who still considers themselves a Republican and can look in the mirror is just horrible. I get it if you don't want to be a Democrat, but go Independent. The GOP is unsalvageable and a horrible party all around.

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I'm fine with removing tax incentives from giant international conglomerates that they can already afford, dozens of times over, but would prefer to steal from the states and communities that house them by essentially paying for less than 1% of the public infrastructure that they actually require to exist.

 

[K1052]

MLB pulled the All Star game from GA due to passage of the voting restrictions.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1378058755481481218

 

[dank69]

MLB pulled the All Star game from GA due to passage of the voting restrictions.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1378058755481481218

That is going to sting.

 

[iRONic]

Good!

 

[Fenixgoon]

That is going to sting.

Something something...free market!
Something something....free speech!
Something something...cancel culture!!11oneone

I can't wait to see the GA legislators walk it all back.

 

[K1052]

I can't wait to see the GA legislators walk it all back.

Republicans will try to economically destroy the entire sport of Baseball instead to own the libs.

 

[Amol S.]

Georgia is going to end up getting hit hard economically if these companies/organizations leave the state. In my honest opinion, I assume the laws are going to eventually get overturned via the law suit in the state, or when the law suit goes to the Supreme Court.

I also think the big companies are going to sue the state of Texas, as such actions could be considered encentvising favoritism.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I like how GA says this is too improve integrity of elections, yet just a handful of years ago GA wiped state voting servers that the FBI had instructed them to not change because the FBI wanted to review them.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Georgia is going to end up getting hit hard economically if these companies/organizations leave the state. In my honest opinion, I assume the laws are going to eventually get overturned via the law suit in the state, or when the law suit goes to the Supreme Court.

I also think the big companies are going to sue the state of Texas, as such actions could be considered encentvising favoritism.

They’re not leaving the State, they will say they don’t support these changes but that is all.
No way Coke moves somewhere else over a voter act, no way FedEx moves all its warehousing and shipping somewhere else, no way will zero baseball games be played in Georgia.

 

[HomerJS]

They’re not leaving the State, they will say they don’t support these changes but that is all.
No way Coke moves somewhere else over a voter act, no way FedEx moves all its warehousing and shipping somewhere else, no way will zero baseball games be played in Georgia.

They don't have to. Stop giving money to Republicans along with supporting HR-1 and HR-4 would be more effective.

 

[HomerJS]

I like how GA says this is too improve integrity of elections, yet just a handful of years ago GA wiped state voting servers that the FBI had instructed them to not change because the FBI wanted to review them.

Improve the integrity of the most secure election in history as deemed by our own government? Improve integrity based on the lie of widespread voter fraud??