How will/should the Democrats attack Palin?

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Specop 007

So to teach Gay is OK and Billy has 2 Mommies is acceptable, to force kids to practice Islam is ok, but to teach creationism and evolution is somehow bad?

Whoa there, idiot child. Exactly WHAT does Palin advocating creationism have to do with any of the other issues you listed?

On gay issues, Palin's as wrong as she is advocating creationism. I'm not even going to get into the rest of the blatant bullshit you just posted unless you manage to dredge up some link between her and those issues.

Push your party's agenda and discredit the competition's as...What was it? "ooga booga mystery oil religious dogma".....Unless its Islam, then its ok.

I believe ALL religions are ooga booga mystery oil. To be more precise, I believe they are all political power structures based on myth, fear and willing ignorance and blatant stupidity.

Idiot child? Abusive mod? Tit for tat as they say? Interesting.
But I digress

Well actually, YOU brought up Palin and creationism. If that bothers you then I ask why doesnt the indoctrination of children into Islam bother you?
Perhaps because your party supports one and not the other? Why is it you get sooo worked up over creationism being taught but, frankly, couldnt give a shit about other religions or sexual practices being taught? Are you really concerned about what is taught in school, are you concerned about the entire school curriculum or are you just looking for some reason to bash those damnedable Republicans. I mean really, as a rabid liberal I would think you would be more concerned about having a terrorist representing your party. Does that part bother you?

I can take a guess on both the curriculum and terrorist issue.....

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Is it ok to teach Gay is OK and make students practice Islam in school, but not teach creationism?

To repeat my previous questions, what does one have to to with any of the others, and how do they relate to Palin?

And YES, it's not only OK, it's absolutely right to teach equality for gays. If you have a problem with that, you're just showing your own bigotry.

 

[Bitek]

There isn't much to attack her on because she hasn't actually done anything. "Executive" experience? What is this magical type of experience and how much does she have? She's been a gov of one of the smallest states for barely a over a year and has already got herself into scandal.

Before that she was a mayor of a village in buttfuck Alaska, pop 5400. So what did she do for the other 23 hrs in the day? Negotiating treaties between the polar bears and the trout? Debating whether to use balloons or confetti in the local town's 4th of July parade?

Seriously, a senior exec at a local company is also the mayor of a small town in NJ (pop ~22000.) After 14 hr days at work, he goes home and does mayoral duties before he goes to bed and a few hrs on the weekends. Its a hobby.

In fact she had so much spare time she also raised a bunch of kids and weirdo home-schooled them.

So, the Repubs are going to nominate a schoolteacher with a BS in Journalism as VP to the world's most powerful nation and largest economy at a time of two wars and economic crisis, right behind the would be oldest Pres ever with a history of health problems?

You have got to be fucking kidding me.

The good ol boys are going to line up and vote for a soccermom as CIC?

Not only that, she is completely unknown, untested and unvetted publicly. Obama has been thru the crucible of the hardest fought primary in history, and that's after surviving Chicago politics and the bareknuckle IL legislature. He built the largest and most successful and disciplined grassroots campaign in modern history. He's been pressured in 20 odd debates. He's made mistakes and has had to recover.

What will she do in debates now the soccermom is going to swim w/ the big fish? What gaffes are waiting to be made? What are her positions? Obama has been making policy and challenging policy on a national level for years now. McCain is throwing a n00b in the pool just a couple months before the GE.

 

[Jhhnn]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Heh. I'm just trying to address the issue in terms that the usual dittohead would understand, the same terms that the rightwing would obviously be flinging about in great abandon and glee if Obama had proposed a similar pick from his side of things. Well, except there's no complication wrt Obama's age...

Was she a POW, too?

Looks more like you're just making an ass of yourself than anything else. She should just get back in the kitchen where she belongs, amirite??!?!

Not as far as I'm concerned, but I'm sure that many kneejerk McCain supporters would say so... if she weren't on the "Us" side of the usual "Us vs Them"...

I mean, you're puttin' these guys' heads in a vise- What's worse, from that perspective, an uppity black or an uppity woman?

I can't wait for her to take on Joe Biden, btw... if the McCain camp will allow it... should be a real horror show for repubs...

 

[Buck Armstrong]

I just read this about Palin:

She cuts down trees, she eats her lunch, she goes to the lavat'ry
On Wednesdays she goes shopping for buttered scones and tea
She's a lumberjack and she's OK...

 

[Balt]

I'm not sure the Dems will even have to try to be clever. She is an embarrassment to have on the ticket, McCain's version of Harriet Myers.

Republicans are already throwing around talking points and catch words like "executive experience", but the fact is she doesn't even resemble a qualified candidate and they know it. It's also funny how they point out that Alaska is the largest state in the Union, even though it's also one of the least populated which is far more important.

Many people realize that with McCain's age and health it's quite likely that this woman could become POTUS. There's nothing in her history that even hints at her being ready for such an office.

 

[KevinH]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Post a Sex tape of her on YouTube?

I'd be all over that. I'd volunteer in fact.

 

[marincounty]

She's a doper.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: alchemize
How about having a debate on the issues?

Nah...no sense in that.

tbh that would be a great way for democrats to win the battle (debate) and lose the war (public opinion)

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
I think it's great that the repubs are trying to put an inexperienced middle aged alaskan bimbo just one volatile old codger's heartbeat away from the presidency...

I think it's great how rampant misogyny is in the "progressive" party.

what if they are right though?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Oh, here's another way she can/should be attacked: apparently she thinks we should teach creationism in our schools..

There are plenty of reasons to avoid electing McShame, but candidate for VP who advocates infecting our schools with the intellectual stupidity of creationism is all the reason we need to punt both of them to the sidelines.

http://dwb.adn.com/news/politi...8347904p-8243554c.html

"I don't think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class. It doesn't have to be part of the curriculum."

Lots of advocating there.

That's LOTS MORE advocating of blatant stupidity in public education than I'm willing to tolerate.

Get this straight -- "Creation science" is NOT science. It's ooga booga mystery oil religious dogma. It has NO place in our public educational systems and even less of a place being advocated by our nation's leaders.

So to teach Gay is OK and Billy has 2 Mommies is acceptable, to force kids to practice Islam is ok, but to teach creationism and evolution is somehow bad?
I think maybe your looking at this with some seriously narrow blinders. Unless you yourself support gay and islamic indoctrination of schoolchildren. Push your party's agenda and discredit the competition's as...What was it? "ooga booga mystery oil religious dogma".....Unless its Islam, then its ok.

if people were forcing students to practice islam, you might have a point, unfortunately for you thats not actually happening, and does nothing to address the fact that creationism and ID are not science and have no business being presented as such.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: Specop 007


So to teach Gay is OK and Billy has 2 Mommies is acceptable, to force kids to practice Islam is ok, but to teach creationism and evolution is somehow bad?
I think maybe your looking at this with some seriously narrow blinders. Unless you yourself support gay and islamic indoctrination of schoolchildren. Push your party's agenda and discredit the competition's as...What was it? "ooga booga mystery oil religious dogma".....Unless its Islam, then its ok.

You are seriously deluded

Am I wrong? Answer the question, keep the fluff to your bowling club.

Is it ok to teach Gay is OK and make students practice Islam in school, but not teach creationism?

theres nothing wrong with the first one and the second isn't happening. If it was, i would be the first one in the protest line.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Heh. I'm just trying to address the issue in terms that the usual dittohead would understand, the same terms that the rightwing would obviously be flinging about in great abandon and glee if Obama had proposed a similar pick from his side of things. Well, except there's no complication wrt Obama's age...

Was she a POW, too?

Looks more like you're just making an ass of yourself than anything else. She should just get back in the kitchen where she belongs, amirite??!?!

Not as far as I'm concerned, but I'm sure that many kneejerk McCain supporters would say so... if she weren't on the "Us" side of the usual "Us vs Them"...

I mean, you're puttin' these guys' heads in a vise- What's worse, from that perspective, an uppity black or an uppity woman?

I can't wait for her to take on Joe Biden, btw... if the McCain camp will allow it... should be a real horror show for repubs...

lulz. And how is what you are doing any different than what you think McCain supporters would be doing if Obama picked a woman VP?

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: Specop 007


So to teach Gay is OK and Billy has 2 Mommies is acceptable, to force kids to practice Islam is ok, but to teach creationism and evolution is somehow bad?
I think maybe your looking at this with some seriously narrow blinders. Unless you yourself support gay and islamic indoctrination of schoolchildren. Push your party's agenda and discredit the competition's as...What was it? "ooga booga mystery oil religious dogma".....Unless its Islam, then its ok.

You are seriously deluded

Am I wrong? Answer the question, keep the fluff to your bowling club.

Is it ok to teach Gay is OK and make students practice Islam in school, but not teach creationism?

theres nothing wrong with the first one and the second isn't happening. If it was, i would be the first one in the protest line.

The first shouldnt be taught because the point of schools is NOT to tell children what sexual practices are ok or not. Schools need to be teaching science, math and english.

I dont expect you to reply however because you'll be busy standing in line (Yeah right....)

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Post a Sex tape of her on YouTube?

I dunno, that would probably just make her more Electable. She ain't no Barbara Bush.

 

[miketheidiot]

nominating her for president is, from a pragmatic perspective, is almost nonsensical, the idea of a tremendously inexperience and uneducated individual being placed at the pinnacle of the pre-eminent country in the world, if not the history of the world, is borderline obscene. Being mayor of even a large town (ie 100k people) is a borderline part time job, to say that being mayor of bumfuck alaska is at all relevant or applicable to the governing of the united states is ridiculous. A brief stint as governor of one of the least populous states in the country is equally a non-issue.

from a political perspective though, its a brilliant move, because as far as i can tell, you can't attack any of those issues successfully without a backlash. :thumbsup:

 

[Cuda1447]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: jpeyton
:laugh: OMG, this is going to be GOOOOOD!

The pundits on all stations (except Fox) is tearing Palin a new one.

And the Republicans trying to defend the choice are arguing who is less experienced, not if Palin is experienced.

They certainly arent tearing her a new one.

You kidding? Turn it on something other than Fox. They are tearing her lack of experience to shreds.

Call it media bias if you want, but it's happening.

As someone else has said, isn't that hypocritical? She may be inexperienced, but if the Dem's are going to attack her for being inexperienced what are they doing putting Obama up there? If they are even in the same league in terms of experience the Dem's shouldn't be criticizing her for it, they should be trying to make that a non-issue.

 

[owensdj]

I don't think the Democrats need to attack her. They just need to let the voters keep wondering, "Sarah who??"

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: bamacre
They don't have to. Just need to attack McCain.

this.

not to mention palin's nomination does the attacking for itself. dems need to just sit back and enjoy.

 

[Jhhnn]

Well, gee, Specop007, I don't suppose it ever occurred to you that supporting the Saudi Monarchy is supporting the forced indoctrination of children into Islam? Or that supporting the madrasses of those same radicals in Pakistan during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan wasn't the same thing? Or is the palsy nature of the bushistas relationship to the Saudis something you'd rather not even acknowledge?

Maybe we should all rally round that rightwing battlecry of states rights, let southern schools return to teaching that blacks are inferior, that they bear the mark of cain? Or are gays just the new ni@@ers?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Well actually, YOU brought up Palin and creationism.

Well, actually, no, I didn't. Palin did because she advocates allowing such idiocy to be taught in public schools.

John McCain's vice-presidential pick, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, is an evangelical Protestant with a strong record of opposition to abortion and an openness to teaching creationism in the public schools.

She's entitled to believe in her favorite myths and fantasies. No public official should be allowed to foist bullshit like creationism/creation "science" on our public educational institutions.

If that bothers you then I ask why doesnt the indoctrination of children into Islam bother you?

Please tell us which, if ANY, candidate for President or Vice President advocates "indoctrinating children into or "forcing children to practice."

If you can't answer that, you're blowing smoke out of your ass.

I mean really, as a rabid liberal I would think you would be more concerned about having a terrorist representing your party. Does that part bother you?

A terrorist??? Exactly WHO are you calling a terrorist? :shocked:

Why it doesn't bother you that YOUR party, represented by the Bushwhacko administration, are guilty of TREASON for shredding the rights guaranteed to all American citizens under our formerly great, formerly honored Constitution?

As of 8/29/08 3:57 pm EDT, 4,150 American troops have died in your Traitor In Chief's war of lies in Iraq.

The Bushwhackos are guilty of MURDER for every one of those deaths.

Traitor In Chief's war of lies in Iraq is also the direct reason why tens of thousands more American troops are wounded, scarred and disabled for life.

Your Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal are guilty of committing TORTURE and other horrendous WAR CRIMES and CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

Your Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal are a greater threat to the United States of America than Osama Bin Laden, all of Al Qaeda and all the Al Qaeda wannabes of the world. At least, they acknowledge they are out to destroy us while

The only representatives of either party who can rightly be called terrorists are REPUBLICANS, and John McShame represents nothing more than a continuation of all of their crimes against the people of the United States of America and the world. :thumbsdown: :|

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Harvey


Why it doesn't bother you that YOUR party, represented by the Bushwhacko administration, are guilty of TREASON for shredding the rights guaranteed to all American citizens under our formerly great, formerly honored Constitution.

As of 8/29/08 3:57 pm EDT, 4,150 American troops have died in your Traitor In Chief's war of lies in Iraq.

The Bushwhackos are guilty of MURDER for every one of those deaths.

Traitor In Chief's war of lies in Iraq is also the direct reason why tens of thousands more American troops are wounded, scarred and disabled for life.

Your Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal are guilty of committing TORTURE and other horrendous war crimes and crimes against humanity.

Your Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal are a greater threat to the United States of America than Osama Bin Laden, all of Al Qaeda and all the Al Qaeda wannabes of the world. At least, they acknowledge they are out to destroy us while

The only representatives of either party who can rightly be called terrorists are REPUBLICANS, and John McShame represents nothing more than continuation of all of their crimes against the people of the United States of America and the world. :thumbsdown: :|

Ctrl + V ftw

 

[Chaotic42]

How about instead of attacking anything, they come out with well-reasoned policies that they explain in several forums until the election? If we could get the Republicans to do the same, we might have something going.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: Harvey
The only representatives of either party who can rightly be called terrorists are REPUBLICANS, and John McShame represents nothing more than a continuation of all of their crimes against the people of the United States of America and the world. :thumbsdown: :|

Come on man, don't resort to stuff like this. I see what you're trying to get at, but do you really think that anyone on the other side of this issue is going to take you seriously when you post things like this? It does not reflect well on you.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Ctrl + V FTL

Aww... Da widdle boy can't challenge the truth about his Traitor In Chief and his gang of traitors, murderers, torturers, war criminals and war profiteers. I fixed your post for ya. :laugh:

If you want to challenge any of those charges, try your juvenile [Ctrl + V] bullshit again, go ahead, and I'll do a real cut and paste of one of my macros to prove every one of them.

If you want to dispute whether John McShame will continue more of the same, you'd better check with his 90% voting record supporting the Bushwhacko criminality.

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Come on man, don't resort to stuff like this. I see what you're trying to get at, but do you really think that anyone on the other side of this issue is going to take you seriously when you post things like this? It does not reflect well on you.

Do I really give a rat's ass what anyone on the other side of this issue thinks? No.

I'm dead ass serious about the criminality of the Bushwhackos, and I'm even more serious about allowing their dingbat candidate to continue those crimes for another four years.