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Originally posted by: Aimster
Stop saying this is because of the religion of the terrorist. Show me proof how it is linked to their religion or shut the hell up. If a serial killer is going around chopping up people and he claims Jesus told him to do it, does that mean his religion is to blame?
The fact that they give a whole 10-minute speech praising "Allah" before they lop off the guy's head is proof enough that their killing is directly linked to their religion. It happens every time, EVERY TIME they behead someone. They screamed, "Allah is great" as they beheaded Nicholas Berg. What further proof do you require?
 

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
The people who did that are filled with hate and ignorance, righteous hate and ignorance for the other, the same hate we feel when we wish to pay them back, the same mindless ignorance by which we refer to them as Muslims so as to differentiate ourselves.

We don't wish to "pay them back". We wish to rid society of such scum. Yes I hate them. But I don't refer to them as Muslims. i'm sure there are plenty of Muslims that don't go around beheading Americans to terrorize us. i don't hate Muslims. I just hate terrorists. And yes I include most American criminals in that group.
 

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Grow up. Next time an asian person cuts me off on the road im going to demand that all of the learn how to drive.!

right, dont compare bad to chopping off heads. but im not surprised that coming from you

So you are saying all the Muslims in the world chop off heads? Show me proof kid as to where in the their religion it says to do things? It is clear you cannot back up your claims on the P&N forum yet you continue to post.

I think he's saying that muslims tend to be involved in most terrorist attacks of the past 10 years. Just recently we had the hotel bombing and the school hostage situation in Russia. Or the two Russian airliners that were taken down. I'm not a religious expert but their seems to be a connection especially when they invoke their religion in everything they do.

 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: Aimster
Stop saying this is because of the religion of the terrorist. Show me proof how it is linked to their religion or shut the hell up. If a serial killer is going around chopping up people and he claims Jesus told him to do it, does that mean his religion is to blame?
The fact that they give a whole 10-minute speech praising "Allah" before they lop off the guy's head is proof enough that their killing is directly linked to their religion. It happens every time, EVERY TIME they behead someone. They screamed, "Allah is great" as they beheaded Nicholas Berg. What further proof do you require?

What do you want them to say? God instead of Allah? Allah is how you say God in Arabic and they are Arab.
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: loki8481
it's like blaming all Christians for the actions and opinions of the KKK.
Bollocks. The KKK never prayed to Jesus before killing anyone. That tired anaology (blame Aaron Sorkin for it) has always been flawed. While there have been white supremacy groups who took The Bible out of context to justify their hate, Islam is and has always been the center of all that is wrong with radical insurgents.

Been to a few KKK hangings so you can speak as an informed poster? I don't think you want to go comparing the body counts of beheaded westerners and the number of people killed in the name of God.

Are you just waking up to the fact that ORGAINIZED RELIGION is used as a justification to kill people that we don't look/think like? It applies to muslims killing westerners, it applies to the Holocaust, it applies to the Inquisition, and goes on and on.

Continue on with your blissful day.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Grow up. Next time an asian person cuts me off on the road im going to demand that all of the learn how to drive.!

right, dont compare bad to chopping off heads. but im not surprised that coming from you

So you are saying all the Muslims in the world chop off heads? Show me proof kid as to where in the their religion it says to do things? It is clear you cannot back up your claims on the P&N forum yet you continue to post.

just because i pointed out your post was totally incorrect means im a kid now?

no, not all muslims chop off heads. but most, if not all of the "head chopping" is done by MUSLIM TERRORISTS. you cant spin it any further

Most likely done by the same gang. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. You are taking the actions of a few men possibly not more than 10 and saying the entire Muslim population is like that.

 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Stop saying this is because of the religion of the terrorist. Show me proof how it is linked to their religion or shut the hell up. If a serial killer is going around chopping up people and he claims Jesus told him to do it, does that mean his religion is to blame?

Possibly because they claim to want to die as maryters and go to Islamic heaven? Possibly because they call everyone else in the world infidels and claim a mandate from Allah to kill all of us? Am I getting warm?

Islamic heaven? There is an Islamic heaven? Please share because this is news to me. You obviously are not education when it comes to other religions other than your own and should not post when it comes to them.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Grow up. Next time an asian person cuts me off on the road im going to demand that all of the learn how to drive.!

right, dont compare bad to chopping off heads. but im not surprised that coming from you

So you are saying all the Muslims in the world chop off heads? Show me proof kid as to where in the their religion it says to do things? It is clear you cannot back up your claims on the P&N forum yet you continue to post.

just because i pointed out your post was totally incorrect means im a kid now?

no, not all muslims chop off heads. but most, if not all of the "head chopping" is done by MUSLIM TERRORISTS. you cant spin it any further

Most likely done by the same gang. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. You are taking the actions of a few men possibly not more than 10 and saying the entire Muslim population is like that.

so all of the terrorist acts done around the world are done by 12 men???

worst.post.ever.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Stop saying this is because of the religion of the terrorist. Show me proof how it is linked to their religion or shut the hell up. If a serial killer is going around chopping up people and he claims Jesus told him to do it, does that mean his religion is to blame?

Possibly because they claim to want to die as maryters and go to Islamic heaven? Possibly because they call everyone else in the world infidels and claim a mandate from Allah to kill all of us? Am I getting warm?

Islamic heaven? There is an Islamic heaven? Please share because this is news to me. You obviously are not education when it comes to other religions other than your own and should not post when it comes to them.

yes there is a islamic heaven, the one with the much talked about virgens.
 

Originally posted by: Aimster
What do you want them to say? God instead of Allah? Allah is how you say God in Arabic and they are Arab.
No. Technically they are saying, "Allah U Akbar," which is, "God is Great." You are dodging the point that they are in fact using their religion as a justification of brutal, barbaric murder.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Grow up. Next time an asian person cuts me off on the road im going to demand that all of the learn how to drive.!

right, dont compare bad to chopping off heads. but im not surprised that coming from you

So you are saying all the Muslims in the world chop off heads? Show me proof kid as to where in the their religion it says to do things? It is clear you cannot back up your claims on the P&N forum yet you continue to post.

just because i pointed out your post was totally incorrect means im a kid now?

no, not all muslims chop off heads. but most, if not all of the "head chopping" is done by MUSLIM TERRORISTS. you cant spin it any further

Most likely done by the same gang. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. You are taking the actions of a few men possibly not more than 10 and saying the entire Muslim population is like that.

so all of the terrorist acts done around the world are done by 12 men???

worst.post.ever.

Al Qaeda has no more than 12,000 men by current U.S numbers. The beheadings are probably done by the same gang of 12 men. Let's add 50 more gangs and bring the total to 500 if you so like. If you have evidence that I am wrong then post it, otherwise my stats stand.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: Aimster
Stop saying this is because of the religion of the terrorist. Show me proof how it is linked to their religion or shut the hell up. If a serial killer is going around chopping up people and he claims Jesus told him to do it, does that mean his religion is to blame?
The fact that they give a whole 10-minute speech praising "Allah" before they lop off the guy's head is proof enough that their killing is directly linked to their religion. It happens every time, EVERY TIME they behead someone. They screamed, "Allah is great" as they beheaded Nicholas Berg. What further proof do you require?

What do you want them to say? God instead of Allah? Allah is how you say God in Arabic and they are Arab.

All of your posts are based on nothing. From what I have read, you seem to think that religion plays no part in terrorism and the fact that all these terrorists happen to be muslim doesnt mean anything.

Here Dwell tries to reason with you, but your a lost cause.

He just gave you direct proof linking religion to the killing. Deny it all you want.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: Condor
Originally posted by: Aimster
Stop saying this is because of the religion of the terrorist. Show me proof how it is linked to their religion or shut the hell up. If a serial killer is going around chopping up people and he claims Jesus told him to do it, does that mean his religion is to blame?

Possibly because they claim to want to die as maryters and go to Islamic heaven? Possibly because they call everyone else in the world infidels and claim a mandate from Allah to kill all of us? Am I getting warm?

Islamic heaven? There is an Islamic heaven? Please share because this is news to me. You obviously are not education when it comes to other religions other than your own and should not post when it comes to them.

yes there is a islamic heaven, the one with the much talked about virgens.

There is no Islamic heaven and the Quran talks about nothing involving a Heaven with virgins. You obviously do not know about other religions so you shouldn't talk about them.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Grow up. Next time an asian person cuts me off on the road im going to demand that all of the learn how to drive.!

right, dont compare bad to chopping off heads. but im not surprised that coming from you

So you are saying all the Muslims in the world chop off heads? Show me proof kid as to where in the their religion it says to do things? It is clear you cannot back up your claims on the P&N forum yet you continue to post.

just because i pointed out your post was totally incorrect means im a kid now?

no, not all muslims chop off heads. but most, if not all of the "head chopping" is done by MUSLIM TERRORISTS. you cant spin it any further

Most likely done by the same gang. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. You are taking the actions of a few men possibly not more than 10 and saying the entire Muslim population is like that.

so all of the terrorist acts done around the world are done by 12 men???

worst.post.ever.

Al Qaeda has no more than 12,000 men by current U.S numbers. The beheadings are probably done by the same gang of 12 men. Let's add 50 more gangs and bring the total to 500 if you so like. If you have evidence that I am wrong then post it, otherwise my stats stand.

there are other terrorists besides al qaeda. maybe if you read the news once a while you would have noticed that
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: Aimster
What do you want them to say? God instead of Allah? Allah is how you say God in Arabic and they are Arab.
No. Technically they are saying, "Allah U Akbar," which is, "God is Great." You are dodging the point that they are in fact using their religion as a justification of brutal, barbaric murder.

They can use religion all they want for their actions. That doesn't make them good Muslims. It makes them haters not religious men. If the Quran actually supported their actions then I would agree with you, but the Quran supports nothing they are doing.

It is exactly like me going and killing people and then saying Jesus is great. Does that mean Christianity is to blame?
 

Originally posted by: umbrella39
Are you just waking up to the fact that ORGAINIZED RELIGION is used as a justification to kill people that we don't look/think like? It applies to muslims killing westerners, it applies to the Holocaust, it applies to the Inquisition, and goes on and on.
That's nice. The Inquisition was 800 years ago, the Crusades 700 years ago, the holocaust 60 years ago. Kenneth Bigley was beheaded yesterday.
 

BarneyFife

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Grow up. Next time an asian person cuts me off on the road im going to demand that all of the learn how to drive.!

right, dont compare bad to chopping off heads. but im not surprised that coming from you

So you are saying all the Muslims in the world chop off heads? Show me proof kid as to where in the their religion it says to do things? It is clear you cannot back up your claims on the P&N forum yet you continue to post.

just because i pointed out your post was totally incorrect means im a kid now?

no, not all muslims chop off heads. but most, if not all of the "head chopping" is done by MUSLIM TERRORISTS. you cant spin it any further

Most likely done by the same gang. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. You are taking the actions of a few men possibly not more than 10 and saying the entire Muslim population is like that.

so all of the terrorist acts done around the world are done by 12 men???

worst.post.ever.

Al Qaeda has no more than 12,000 men by current U.S numbers. The beheadings are probably done by the same gang of 12 men. Let's add 50 more gangs and bring the total to 500 if you so like. If you have evidence that I am wrong then post it, otherwise my stats stand.

What about all the people that support them? Al Qaeda would be nothing if they didn't have the support of thousands and possibly millions of people. If you went to rob a bank and I gave you the gun and car to do it, I'm equally as responsible as you are. I'll go out on a limb and say that their are more than 500 gangs of thugs in Chechnya alone.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Grow up. Next time an asian person cuts me off on the road im going to demand that all of the learn how to drive.!

right, dont compare bad to chopping off heads. but im not surprised that coming from you

So you are saying all the Muslims in the world chop off heads? Show me proof kid as to where in the their religion it says to do things? It is clear you cannot back up your claims on the P&N forum yet you continue to post.

just because i pointed out your post was totally incorrect means im a kid now?

no, not all muslims chop off heads. but most, if not all of the "head chopping" is done by MUSLIM TERRORISTS. you cant spin it any further

Most likely done by the same gang. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. You are taking the actions of a few men possibly not more than 10 and saying the entire Muslim population is like that.

so all of the terrorist acts done around the world are done by 12 men???

worst.post.ever.

Al Qaeda has no more than 12,000 men by current U.S numbers. The beheadings are probably done by the same gang of 12 men. Let's add 50 more gangs and bring the total to 500 if you so like. If you have evidence that I am wrong then post it, otherwise my stats stand.

there are other terrorists besides al qaeda. maybe if you read the news once a while you would have noticed that

Ok I will give you a number of 1,000,000 men. Still less than 1% of the total Muslim population.
 

jpeyton

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I know some really nice Muslims. And I certainly don't hate Muslims everywhere (I do hate the terrorists who are responsible for these beheadings). But then again, I can't expect everyone else in the world to be rational or intelligent.
 
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action ... reaction

I don't think these people understand the side effects of their actions. If anythig, it will just make us stay in Iraq longer.

True moronic behaivior.....
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: loki8481
it's like blaming all Christians for the actions and opinions of the KKK.

can we please stay on topic here? when was the last time the kkk came anywhere close to this? 20 years ago? stop apologizing for these terrorist muslims



No one is apologizing for TERRORISTS who happen to be Muslim. Even though I am quite sure you know that for some reason you hit the reply to topic button just like the OP blanketed all the brown people in middle east into beheading supporters.

The KKK is a perfect example and fits very well in this argument.

Guess I have to spell it out for you:

Most White Hooded executioners believe in God/Jesus. They do radical things sometimes, even kill.
I also believe in God/Jesus. I have no responsibility for what they do.

Conclusion: Not all Christians advocate the hangings of Blacks.

Most Black Hooded executioners believe in Allah. They do radical things sometimes, even kill.
The Arab that owns the party store on the corner also believes in Allah. He has no responsibility for what they do.

Conclusion: Not all Muslims condone beheadings.

 

DoubleL

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Originally posted by:Condor

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posted by: DoubleL
I am a military man and this has nothing to do with religions and the one that think that or keep apologizing for the sob's well I don't even want to say what I think, We need to just hunt them down and kill them
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With Napalm!!


With Napalm, What did I say


 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Grow up. Next time an asian person cuts me off on the road im going to demand that all of the learn how to drive.!

right, dont compare bad to chopping off heads. but im not surprised that coming from you

So you are saying all the Muslims in the world chop off heads? Show me proof kid as to where in the their religion it says to do things? It is clear you cannot back up your claims on the P&N forum yet you continue to post.

just because i pointed out your post was totally incorrect means im a kid now?

no, not all muslims chop off heads. but most, if not all of the "head chopping" is done by MUSLIM TERRORISTS. you cant spin it any further

Most likely done by the same gang. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. You are taking the actions of a few men possibly not more than 10 and saying the entire Muslim population is like that.

so all of the terrorist acts done around the world are done by 12 men???

worst.post.ever.

Al Qaeda has no more than 12,000 men by current U.S numbers. The beheadings are probably done by the same gang of 12 men. Let's add 50 more gangs and bring the total to 500 if you so like. If you have evidence that I am wrong then post it, otherwise my stats stand.

there are other terrorists besides al qaeda. maybe if you read the news once a while you would have noticed that

Ok I will give you a number of 1,000,000 men. Still less than 1% of the total Muslim population.

im thinking about 10% of the muslim pop. to be somewhat sympathetic to the terrorist cause(s).

Even if its 1%, its more than a million people and that is alarming
 

Originally posted by: Aimster
They can use religion all they want for their actions. That doesn't make them good Muslims. It makes them haters not religious men. If the Quran actually supported their actions then I would agree with you, but the Quran supports nothing they are doing.
You can interpret the Qur'an, the Bible, or even the White Album to justify anything you want. The culture in some Middle Eastern countries breed this sort of religious ignorance and hatred towards the West and Jews in their Islamic schools.
It is exactly like me going and killing people and then saying Jesus is great. Does that mean Christianity is to blame?
When the current level of murders inspired by Christianity reach that of Islam, get back to me. As of TODAY, Islam/Muslims have a serious problem to cope with.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Grow up. Next time an asian person cuts me off on the road im going to demand that all of the learn how to drive.!

right, dont compare bad to chopping off heads. but im not surprised that coming from you

So you are saying all the Muslims in the world chop off heads? Show me proof kid as to where in the their religion it says to do things? It is clear you cannot back up your claims on the P&N forum yet you continue to post.

just because i pointed out your post was totally incorrect means im a kid now?

no, not all muslims chop off heads. but most, if not all of the "head chopping" is done by MUSLIM TERRORISTS. you cant spin it any further

Most likely done by the same gang. There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. You are taking the actions of a few men possibly not more than 10 and saying the entire Muslim population is like that.

so all of the terrorist acts done around the world are done by 12 men???

worst.post.ever.

Al Qaeda has no more than 12,000 men by current U.S numbers. The beheadings are probably done by the same gang of 12 men. Let's add 50 more gangs and bring the total to 500 if you so like. If you have evidence that I am wrong then post it, otherwise my stats stand.

there are other terrorists besides al qaeda. maybe if you read the news once a while you would have noticed that

Ok I will give you a number of 1,000,000 men. Still less than 1% of the total Muslim population.

im thinking about 10% of the muslim pop. to be somewhat sympathetic to the terrorist cause(s).

Even if its 1%, its more than a million people and that is alarming

Obviously you are wrong. 10% of the Muslim population is sympathetic? Show me proof as to how your numbers are even coming close to 10%. Considering the majority of the terrorist are Arabs I do not see how that could be possible. 15% of the Muslim population is Arab. To get close to 10% you would have to have the majority of the Arab world sympathetic to them. I think not. You fail.