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Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Islam did not behead anyone this week, some radical coward with a black hood did.
The same as some Pope ordered all Turks killed in 1095. Killing in the name of God. These people were beheaded by Muslim insurgents in the name of Allah.

Islam is against murder so therefore they are not Muslims. Stop hating.

thats why it says in the quran to kill the infidel? wow all your posts have been misleading

Go pick up a Quran and read it. Show me where it says kill the infidel. Proof Mr.Smart guy.

time to pwn I guess ......
just for you

here you go, buddy.

END.

next time you post a link post one from a reliable source. Forget the source. Like I said pick up a Quran and translate it for yourself. The one I have sitting here on my desk tells the opposite of your so-called ownage site. The majority of it is translated incorrectly or taken out of context.

Like I said you have no clue about Islam. You are the one that believed in a virgin heaven and an Islamic heaven. You are clueless.

Owning? Stop acting like a 12 year old, but I guess you have to act your age.


You asked to show you where it says in the quran to kill. I just showed you proof.

DENY DENY and DENY some more.

It wont change the truth.

Aimster, you only believe things that you like.

I know what I am talking about while you have no knowledge of the topic. You never opened a Quran. You are showing me some website that is bias. It made up half the information. Go pick up a Quran and read it.
I believe what I know to be fact. You believe what you read on that website. The difference between us.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Islam did not behead anyone this week, some radical coward with a black hood did.
The same as some Pope ordered all Turks killed in 1095. Killing in the name of God. These people were beheaded by Muslim insurgents in the name of Allah.

Islam is against murder so therefore they are not Muslims. Stop hating.

thats why it says in the quran to kill the infidel? wow all your posts have been misleading

Go pick up a Quran and read it. Show me where it says kill the infidel. Proof Mr.Smart guy.

time to pwn I guess ......
just for you

here you go, buddy.

END.

next time you post a link post one from a reliable source. Forget the source. Like I said pick up a Quran and translate it for yourself. The one I have sitting here on my desk tells the opposite of your so-called ownage site. The majority of it is translated incorrectly or taken out of context.

Like I said you have no clue about Islam. You are the one that believed in a virgin heaven and an Islamic heaven. You are clueless.

Owning? Stop acting like a 12 year old, but I guess you have to act your age.


You asked to show you where it says in the quran to kill. I just showed you proof.

DENY DENY and DENY some more.

It wont change the truth.

Aimster, you only believe things that you like.

I know what I am talking about while you have no knowledge of the topic. You never opened a Quran. You are showing me some website that is bias. It made up half the information. Go pick up a Quran and read it.
I believe what I know to be fact. You believe what you read on that website. The difference between us.

if you know how to, click the link, it opens up a page showing the whole thing. This is not made up, this is taken directly out of the quran.
 

Infohawk

Lifer
Jan 12, 2002
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I know Raildogg will appreciate it when I point out all the native americans who screamed with pain and fear under US government massacres...

May point is Muslims are humans and are sick as us, humans.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Infohawk
I know Raildogg will appreciate it when I point out all the native americans who screamed with pain and fear under US government massacres...

May point is Muslims are humans and are sick as us, humans.

we corrected our wrongs, its time for them to correct theirs
 

Infohawk

Lifer
Jan 12, 2002
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Infohawk
I know Raildogg will appreciate it when I point out all the native americans who screamed with pain and fear under US government massacres...

May point is Muslims are humans and are sick as us, humans.

we corrected our wrongs, its time for them to correct theirs

Abu Graib anyone? Rape, torture... Maybe we need to get our wrongs in order before we go around raping people... Hmmm?
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Infohawk
I know Raildogg will appreciate it when I point out all the native americans who screamed with pain and fear under US government massacres...

May point is Muslims are humans and are sick as us, humans.

we corrected our wrongs, its time for them to correct theirs

Abu Graib anyone? Rape, torture... Maybe we need to get our wrongs in order before we go around raping people... Hmmm?

considering we massacred indians according to you, the abu graib torture is a improvement, isnt it?

we have come a long way
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Islam did not behead anyone this week, some radical coward with a black hood did.
The same as some Pope ordered all Turks killed in 1095. Killing in the name of God. These people were beheaded by Muslim insurgents in the name of Allah.

Islam is against murder so therefore they are not Muslims. Stop hating.

thats why it says in the quran to kill the infidel? wow all your posts have been misleading

Go pick up a Quran and read it. Show me where it says kill the infidel. Proof Mr.Smart guy.

time to pwn I guess ......
just for you

here you go, buddy.

END.

next time you post a link post one from a reliable source. Forget the source. Like I said pick up a Quran and translate it for yourself. The one I have sitting here on my desk tells the opposite of your so-called ownage site. The majority of it is translated incorrectly or taken out of context.

Like I said you have no clue about Islam. You are the one that believed in a virgin heaven and an Islamic heaven. You are clueless.

Owning? Stop acting like a 12 year old, but I guess you have to act your age.


You asked to show you where it says in the quran to kill. I just showed you proof.

DENY DENY and DENY some more.

It wont change the truth.

Aimster, you only believe things that you like.

I know what I am talking about while you have no knowledge of the topic. You never opened a Quran. You are showing me some website that is bias. It made up half the information. Go pick up a Quran and read it.
I believe what I know to be fact. You believe what you read on that website. The difference between us.

if you know how to, click the link, it opens up a page showing the whole thing. This is not made up, this is taken directly out of the quran.

Wrong. I have two versions of the Quran here. One in English and one in Arabic. Nice try. I told you that website is wrong. The Quran has never been changed. The Arabic version is the true copy. It doesn't say what that website says. Keep at it and believe a misguided website for all I care.

Like I said you have no clue what you are talking about.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
This is frustrating to no extent:

1. Terrorists kill claiming they do it in the name of Islam
2. People claim Islam is a religion that encourages terror
3. Muslims jump to the defense of Islam.

Why the fvck don't you Muslims attack and kill the rabid swines that are performing acts of terror in the name of your religion instead of dancing around the issue and acting as if the greatest crime committed here is the slur on Islam. Your fellow Muslims are perpetuating these incredibly cruel murders. Why the fvck isn't the Muslim world sending in large numbers of forces to kill these "few" bad apples - I mean, come on, these guys are not just rabble-rousers - they are committing murders in a fashion that is comparable to Hitler's killing of Jews. And all you can come up with is, "Don't blame Islam for the acts of a few". Well, then get the fvck off your butts and do something about it :| Otherwise STFU, do your namaz 5 times a day and swallow it when the world calls these pigs ISLAMIC TERRORISTS.

Another lost soul. Isn't the U.S in Iraq fighting these terrorist with the help of the Iraqi people? What do you suggest they do? Come up with a magic spell to get rid of them all?

Some people are so clueless and you shouldn't be allowed to have children.

Keep off the personal attacks you motherfuckingsonofabitch and I will accord you the same consideration. Thanks.

All you are doing is arguing that there is no contractual evidence of Islam bound to commiting acts of violence. The evidence lies in these beheadings - not in some book. Seriously, you think the problem here is people hating Islam. No, the biggest problem is people killing in the name of Islam. Don't try to skirt the issue by talking about irrelevant things. I come from a country with the second largest population of Muslims in the world - India. I am not like most Westerners who only have a passing acquaintance with Muslims. In India, when Islamic terrorists commit terrorism, Muslims are the first to acknowledge and treat that at a social level. In the rest of the world, Muslims want to turn a blind eye and wring their hands and cry crocodile tears over the "unbearable and unfair criticism of Islam".

Umbrella39 - what a capital statement! I am speechless with your stunning repartee.... :roll:

Bottomline is this - if you are a Muslim and you hear someone suggesting that Islam is religion of terror, there are one of two things you can do about it:

1. Defend Islam and argue with the people criticizing Islam
2. Look at source of the problem and do something about it.

As long as you keep taking the easier option #1, you will continue to hear that Islam is a religion of vile terror.

What do you suggest they do? The beheadings are only happening in Iraq where we do have people going after them. There was one beheading in Saudi Arabia and they went after the people who did it. What are you talking about??
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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How quickly people forget what went on in Europe when Clinton was President. I won't link any of it to religion, but the way you people think I might as well.
 

raildogg

Lifer
Aug 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Islam did not behead anyone this week, some radical coward with a black hood did.
The same as some Pope ordered all Turks killed in 1095. Killing in the name of God. These people were beheaded by Muslim insurgents in the name of Allah.

Islam is against murder so therefore they are not Muslims. Stop hating.

thats why it says in the quran to kill the infidel? wow all your posts have been misleading

Go pick up a Quran and read it. Show me where it says kill the infidel. Proof Mr.Smart guy.

time to pwn I guess ......
just for you

here you go, buddy.

END.

next time you post a link post one from a reliable source. Forget the source. Like I said pick up a Quran and translate it for yourself. The one I have sitting here on my desk tells the opposite of your so-called ownage site. The majority of it is translated incorrectly or taken out of context.

Like I said you have no clue about Islam. You are the one that believed in a virgin heaven and an Islamic heaven. You are clueless.

Owning? Stop acting like a 12 year old, but I guess you have to act your age.


You asked to show you where it says in the quran to kill. I just showed you proof.

DENY DENY and DENY some more.

It wont change the truth.

Aimster, you only believe things that you like.

I know what I am talking about while you have no knowledge of the topic. You never opened a Quran. You are showing me some website that is bias. It made up half the information. Go pick up a Quran and read it.
I believe what I know to be fact. You believe what you read on that website. The difference between us.

if you know how to, click the link, it opens up a page showing the whole thing. This is not made up, this is taken directly out of the quran.

Wrong. I have two versions of the Quran here. One in English and one in Arabic. Nice try. I told you that website is wrong. The Quran has never been changed. The Arabic version is the true copy. It doesn't say what that website says. Keep at it and believe a misguided website for all I care.

Like I said you have no clue what you are talking about.

I dont know arabic so I cant verify it. And I dont believe what you say. I'll provide more proof if I have to. But this website is totally accurate as this stuff is take from the quran. Yes the english version.
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: umbrella39
Islam did not behead anyone this week, some radical coward with a black hood did.
The same as some Pope ordered all Turks killed in 1095. Killing in the name of God. These people were beheaded by Muslim insurgents in the name of Allah.

Islam is against murder so therefore they are not Muslims. Stop hating.

thats why it says in the quran to kill the infidel? wow all your posts have been misleading

Go pick up a Quran and read it. Show me where it says kill the infidel. Proof Mr.Smart guy.

time to pwn I guess ......
just for you

here you go, buddy.

END.

next time you post a link post one from a reliable source. Forget the source. Like I said pick up a Quran and translate it for yourself. The one I have sitting here on my desk tells the opposite of your so-called ownage site. The majority of it is translated incorrectly or taken out of context.

Like I said you have no clue about Islam. You are the one that believed in a virgin heaven and an Islamic heaven. You are clueless.

Owning? Stop acting like a 12 year old, but I guess you have to act your age.


You asked to show you where it says in the quran to kill. I just showed you proof.

DENY DENY and DENY some more.

It wont change the truth.

Aimster, you only believe things that you like.

I know what I am talking about while you have no knowledge of the topic. You never opened a Quran. You are showing me some website that is bias. It made up half the information. Go pick up a Quran and read it.
I believe what I know to be fact. You believe what you read on that website. The difference between us.

if you know how to, click the link, it opens up a page showing the whole thing. This is not made up, this is taken directly out of the quran.

Wrong. I have two versions of the Quran here. One in English and one in Arabic. Nice try. I told you that website is wrong. The Quran has never been changed. The Arabic version is the true copy. It doesn't say what that website says. Keep at it and believe a misguided website for all I care.

Like I said you have no clue what you are talking about.

I dont know arabic so I cant verify it. And I dont believe what you say. I'll provide more proof if I have to. But this website is totally accurate as this stuff is take from the quran. Yes the english version.

Like I said the Quran is in Arabic and not in English. Translations are available. That website is inaccurate. I do not need proof from anti-Islam websites to prove your point. I could careless if people hate Islam. You seem to believe in what they say so I recommend you go pick up a Quran with English translations and read it yourself and compare it to the websites.
 

Gravity

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Mar 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: dwell
Originally posted by: loki8481
it's like blaming all Christians for the actions and opinions of the KKK.
Bollocks. The KKK never prayed to Jesus before killing anyone. That tired anaology (blame Aaron Sorkin for it) has always been flawed. While there have been white supremacy groups who took The Bible out of context to justify their hate, Islam is and has always been the center of all that is wrong with radical insurgents.

:thumbsup:
 

jpeyton

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BTW, Bigley knew the risks. There were people getting kidnapped and killed left and right. If he valued his life more than money, he would have high-tailed it back to GB.

I, for one, would not spend a day in Iraq right now, as a low-paid soldier or a high-paid contractor. I value my life.

I don't feel sorry for the guy at all.
 

0marTheZealot

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Irrefutable proof that Christianity hates Jews

Adolf Hitler


?I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.?

What did Hitler do again? I seem to forget. Was it 6 million Jews or 12 million?
 

cwjerome

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The difference is Christianity has progressed and adapted. They are less literal, passed through a reformation, and adapted to enlightenment ideas. This is why you don't have militant Christain groups around the world blowing people up, etc.

Someone could be a Muslim and be the most peaceful person on earth. But the reality is, the religion hasn't advanced like many others have and it's very easy to use as an excuse to do a lot of bad things. It's still a very violent religion, just has Christianity was 1000 years ago. The mentality of Islam today is still in the times of the Crusades.

There are over 1 billion Muslims in the world, and I'm willing to bet most are fairly decent people... I know some definately are. But the history and teachings really do allow for extremists to thrive and pervert the religion into something very primitive and barbaric.
 

cwjerome

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jpeyton, I feel sorry for a sub-human like yourself. Your immature selfishness and total lack of empathy reminds me how we raise Columbine-type kids in our society.
 

Hossenfeffer

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A) This is not a "Muslim" problem. This is an "Islamic Extremist" problem.

B) There is no good to come from actually watching the videos.
 

judasmachine

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in a way of speaking i do think they are trying to get us to hate muslims everywhere, that helps their recruiting. we need to offer olive branches to even some of the more radical ones, as to show that we aren't the dicks we've been being.
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
BTW, Bigley knew the risks. There were people getting kidnapped and killed left and right. If he valued his life more than money, he would have high-tailed it back to GB.

I, for one, would not spend a day in Iraq right now, as a low-paid soldier or a high-paid contractor. I value my life.

I don't feel sorry for the guy at all.

The same logic could be applied to a family killed on the highway in a traffic accident, "They knew the risks, but they chose to take a vacation anyway."

His beheading is having a significant impact on the UK, it was an unpopular war from the start over there, and this really hits home for them.

I respectfully disagree, even a suicide bomber deserves a moment's pause & reflection, the death of any human being diminishes us all.

 

Klixxer

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Ah, so the christians in africa who are chopping the limbs of babies and leave them to bleed to death, they do it out of mercy?

Don't kid yourself, sick people will use ANY reason and pervert ANY religion, it has nothing to do with the colour of their skin, their religion or where they live.

ANY violent fundamentalist is the same, Jewish, Muslim or christian does not matter but people are so into this stupid ass "us vs them" mentality that it is just sad.
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Keep off the personal attacks you motherfuckingsonofabitch

Sweet comeback, Ahithi I like it. Sig material for sure.

:roll: You are taking out a portion of my statement in an attempt to make me look hypocritic or portray me as oblivious to the irony. Just out of curiousity, can you do any worse? I thought the rolling eyes was bad, but you outdid yourself with this response. Now make it a hat-trick with yet another disingenuous response to this post.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
This is frustrating to no extent:

1. Terrorists kill claiming they do it in the name of Islam
2. People claim Islam is a religion that encourages terror
3. Muslims jump to the defense of Islam.

Why the fvck don't you Muslims attack and kill the rabid swines that are performing acts of terror in the name of your religion instead of dancing around the issue and acting as if the greatest crime committed here is the slur on Islam. Your fellow Muslims are perpetuating these incredibly cruel murders. Why the fvck isn't the Muslim world sending in large numbers of forces to kill these "few" bad apples - I mean, come on, these guys are not just rabble-rousers - they are committing murders in a fashion that is comparable to Hitler's killing of Jews. And all you can come up with is, "Don't blame Islam for the acts of a few". Well, then get the fvck off your butts and do something about it :| Otherwise STFU, do your namaz 5 times a day and swallow it when the world calls these pigs ISLAMIC TERRORISTS.

Another lost soul. Isn't the U.S in Iraq fighting these terrorist with the help of the Iraqi people? What do you suggest they do? Come up with a magic spell to get rid of them all?

Some people are so clueless and you shouldn't be allowed to have children.

Keep off the personal attacks you motherfuckingsonofabitch and I will accord you the same consideration. Thanks.

All you are doing is arguing that there is no contractual evidence of Islam bound to commiting acts of violence. The evidence lies in these beheadings - not in some book. Seriously, you think the problem here is people hating Islam. No, the biggest problem is people killing in the name of Islam. Don't try to skirt the issue by talking about irrelevant things. I come from a country with the second largest population of Muslims in the world - India. I am not like most Westerners who only have a passing acquaintance with Muslims. In India, when Islamic terrorists commit terrorism, Muslims are the first to acknowledge and treat that at a social level. In the rest of the world, Muslims want to turn a blind eye and wring their hands and cry crocodile tears over the "unbearable and unfair criticism of Islam".

Umbrella39 - what a capital statement! I am speechless with your stunning repartee.... :roll:

Bottomline is this - if you are a Muslim and you hear someone suggesting that Islam is religion of terror, there are one of two things you can do about it:

1. Defend Islam and argue with the people criticizing Islam
2. Look at source of the problem and do something about it.

As long as you keep taking the easier option #1, you will continue to hear that Islam is a religion of vile terror.

I have yet to see ANY christian actually condemning christians or hindus for their horrible crimes against humanity.

What i HAVE seen are Jews condemning the actions of Israel and Muslims condemning the actions of terrorists.

The source of the problem is the same in all religions, extremism.