How sick can religions be?

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
so a person who actively avoids practicing his religion is considered a good person while those who tell them to follow the rules of his religion are the bad guys?

im with sultan/hatim. although their language is a bit inflammatory, they are correct in criticizing aimster for not practicing his religion correctly.

Persons who advocate killing people for their sexual preference or for fornication, even their own children, what are they called.

If that is what Islam is about, the Aimster needs MORE praise for not falling for the idea of a vengeful hating interpretation of his religion.

ANY religion that requires you to kill is sick, DEFINENTLY!

Your own faith, Jewism, which you supposedly have chosen not to follow has laws regarding capital punishment, as does Christianity, as does almost every religion, as does almost every common law practiced all over the world.

If you have any knowledge about history, God himself punished the nation of Lot. I do not know the laws concerning homosexuals in Islam are, however, Christianity goes to show that God Himself is - using your term - "vengeful". Do you have a problem with God then?

Every religion requires laws. And it mandates you to follow the laws, else be punished.

Ok, dipshit, first of all, i never defended the original laws of the Torah, did i? I do not follow the religion, i follow the faith, which is WAY different, what man have written is not the words of my God, if they are, then may i PLEASE burn in hell for all eternity, heaven would be SO much worse.

I am a man of faith, not religion, if you knew half of it you would understand why too.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
The barbarian is basically speechless.

I guess he needs more time to stone his neighbor's children.

nef

barbaric :disgust:

How many little children have you murdered so far? Any yet?

Don't let the man suck you in, he is worthless, you know that.

*awaits the obligatory post where Sultan says liar or nef*

Yup, he's worthless. I don't think he can ever suck me in to his world of hate, child abuse, and murder though.

Neither do i, even though you and I have our disagreements we can respect eachothers differences, but to try to respect what he is.... we would have to be WAY more insane than we are.

 

[Klixxer]

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Sultan
Not radical according to over 1 billion practitioners of Islam. And since you are not the authority, you terming Islamic beliefs to be radical just show your bias. I certainly am not the authority, and therefore I am not terming any belief as radical.

You == idiot :roll:

Um, you call me biased then use practitioners of Islam to back up your argument? I speak from the POV of a person who finds the idea of stoning an adulterer to death radical and extreme and I still think I'm in the majority. Disagree? Well, go ahead and prove me wrong... Post the poll idiot.

Hey, you know what, I think its radical and extreme that most teenagers have had a sexual experience. I also think its radical that 13 year olds have BJ parties (which was shown on Oprah). But hey, you dont see me labelling as the entire Christian faith as having radical or extreme beliefs.

Let me think... IIRC, Bible has a quote something like "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother...he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26)

OMG :shocked: Am I to say all Christians are radical because their own religion teaches them to hate their father and mother? Or am I to say they are radical and extreme because they have absolutely no idea what their religion actually teaches?

Now i know your problem, you watch too much oprah, that is why you wanted my 13 year old daughter to give you the same treatment.

Stop breathing.

 

[0marTheZealot]

9-11 happened because we let it happen. The CIA got windfall of it and recognized it'd be just as momentous and catalyzing as the Japanese attack on Pearl Habor. So if-this-then-that is moot. 9-11 could never be avoided because the gubment was involved or at least criminally negligent.

And lets try to have a civil discussion without the name calling. This applies to EVERYONE.

 

[Sultan]

Sorry, but I seriously doubt the US would've launched a full scale invasion of Iraq were it not for the 9/11 terrorist attack. There's no way the people or Bush's critics would've given him the authority. And please provide proof to the statements "more than half of the US knew it" when talking about WMD in Iraq and their involvement in 9/11. I'm not privy to the intelligence (or lack thereof) used to justify the invasion and I doubt you are either.

As far as the 10K who died, I'm not saying it's not a tragedy. All I'm saying is what do you expect to happen when a country is invaded? The bad guys are hiding among the innocent - they even use mosques as cover. It's sad but it's going to happen in any war.

Those 19 very disturbed individuals all had at least one thing in common - they were all muslim. And it's well known that many of the terrorists use the word jihad in reference to their motivation.

Don't ask me about the actions of Christians as I don't count myself among them and I don't know what their motivation was for the slaughter you're talking about. I can tell you I'm against the killing of anyone based on their nationality, color, race, sexual preference, etc, etc. I hate plenty of people, not because of what they are but because of who they are.

Sorry, but the US invasion was planned well before 9/11. Please read the PNAC's website and their comments. In fact, there was a thread right here about their 1997 paper. Just do a simple search. Your doubts should be laid to rest then. There were many, MANY protests prior to the invasion. There presence itself suggests a lot of Americans did not believe the President's claim about terrorists in Iraq. Hey, that wasnt even the initial suggestion. WMD was.

The number has far exceeded 10000. They were all wrongly killed. By your justification, which is "what do you expect to happen when a country is invaded", I can justify the killing of the innocent truck drivers, police officials, foreign aid workers, etc, etc. Extending your justification, the Iraqis are right to be majorly pissed off at this unjust invastion and so would lash out at any Westerner.

The majority of the 150000 soldiers in Iraq are Christians who have killed at least 3 times as many Iraqis and these Iraqis were killed in cold blood as well, with bombs raining from the sky while they sleep. Our President used the word crusade - what does that tell you?

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: Robor
That argument doesn't fly. Not all teenagers who have had a sexual experience or attended a BJ party are Christian. However, all 19 of the terrorists who participated in 9/11 and the beheadings have been carried out by those of Islamic faith. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all of those who follow Islam are terrorists. I'm just saying I find some of the things mentioned in this thread radical and even barbaric and the fact that they are being defended even more frightening.

Again, I'm not a Christian and I don't live my life by the book. In fact, most of the alleged good Christians I know are hypocrites.

Why does it not fly? You perceive the entire Islamic faith based on the actions of 19 individuals. Should I base my opinion of Christianity on 19 Christian teenagers who are rather extreme and radical? I am positive I can come up with 19. Again, the argument here is "radical" and "extreme" beliefs.

 

[Sultan]

Originally posted by: Klixxer

Originally posted by: Sultan

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Sultan
Not radical according to over 1 billion practitioners of Islam. And since you are not the authority, you terming Islamic beliefs to be radical just show your bias. I certainly am not the authority, and therefore I am not terming any belief as radical.

You == idiot :roll:

Um, you call me biased then use practitioners of Islam to back up your argument? I speak from the POV of a person who finds the idea of stoning an adulterer to death radical and extreme and I still think I'm in the majority. Disagree? Well, go ahead and prove me wrong... Post the poll idiot.

Hey, you know what, I think its radical and extreme that most teenagers have had a sexual experience. I also think its radical that 13 year olds have BJ parties (which was shown on Oprah). But hey, you dont see me labelling as the entire Christian faith as having radical or extreme beliefs.

Let me think... IIRC, Bible has a quote something like "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother...he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:26)

OMG :shocked: Am I to say all Christians are radical because their own religion teaches them to hate their father and mother? Or am I to say they are radical and extreme because they have absolutely no idea what their religion actually teaches?

Now i know your problem, you watch too much oprah, that is why you wanted my 13 year old daughter to give you the same treatment.

Stop breathing.

make me granpa.