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athithi

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Klixxer, I don't want any more PMs from you.

EDIT: RabidMongoose, I don't think it should matter. This was his second PM and I already told him to respond in the thread if he wanted to continue the discussion. But I'll take it out all the same. I don't want to see an ATer get banned simply because he's behaving like a petulant child :)
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan

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THIS thread is about Islamic terrorism - but I am not surprised by your diversionary tactics. You are trying to divert attention from the illness that Islam is suffering from. Islam is infected with a strain of terrorism that runs way too deep for comfort. I believe that that strain of terrorism can be eradicated on by Muslims attacking these terrorists. Instead of doing that, you are busy trying to claim that these people are not part of Islam. Here's a tip - don't tell the world that these terrorists are not a part of Islam. Tell these mfers that they are not part of Islam. And say it emphatically. Show it in action. Then the world will agree that Islam is not a religion that condones terror.

Sorry, I do not agree with you. If it was "Islamic terrorism", none of the terrorised would be Muslims. Do a Google on how many Muslims have had their heads chopped off or shot and killed by these barbarians. Each religion/race/creed is not free from extremists, including Islam, Hinduism, blah blah blah, as Klixxxer put it. If you want me to go to Iraq and pick up a gun against Zarqawi, thats not happening. Countries of Muslim majority (not "Islamic countries") are doing what they can to root out terrorism from within their own land and abroad. Pakistan has arrested/captured/killed terrorists elements. Indonesia has done the same. Saudi Arabia has acted out against terrorist elements and sources of funding.

If you want Muslim nations to start invading other nations on false premises, thats a ridiculous suggestion. Just as India (and the Hindus) could not prevent the razing of Babri mosque, or the Gujurat massacre, the Muslims of the world also can only take action to a certain extent, which I believe they are doing.

Anything else? :)
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan

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THIS thread is about Islamic terrorism - but I am not surprised by your diversionary tactics. You are trying to divert attention from the illness that Islam is suffering from. Islam is infected with a strain of terrorism that runs way too deep for comfort. I believe that that strain of terrorism can be eradicated on by Muslims attacking these terrorists. Instead of doing that, you are busy trying to claim that these people are not part of Islam. Here's a tip - don't tell the world that these terrorists are not a part of Islam. Tell these mfers that they are not part of Islam. And say it emphatically. Show it in action. Then the world will agree that Islam is not a religion that condones terror.

Sorry, I do not agree with you. If it was "Islamic terrorism", none of the terrorised would be Muslims. Do a Google on how many Muslims have had their heads chopped off or shot and killed by these barbarians. Each religion/race/creed is not free from extremists, including Islam, Hinduism, blah blah blah, as Klixxxer put it. If you want me to go to Iraq and pick up a gun against Zarqawi, thats not happening. Countries of Muslim majority (not "Islamic countries") are doing what they can to root out terrorism from within their own land and abroad. Pakistan has arrested/captured/killed terrorists elements. Indonesia has done the same. Saudi Arabia has acted out against terrorist elements and sources of funding.

If you want Muslim nations to start invading other nations on false premises, thats a ridiculous suggestion. Just as India (and the Hindus) could not prevent the razing of Babri mosque, or the Gujurat massacre, the Muslims of the world also can only take action to a certain extent, which I believe they are doing.

Anything else? :)


I'm sorry, what did you say the going rate for Al Qaeda terrorists was in Pakistan? 3 billion US dollars, was it? And that Hot Deal does not include OBL?
 

Aimster

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This is why Pakistan and India hate each other because of people like you two. I just hope the leaders do not think like this.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan

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THIS thread is about Islamic terrorism - but I am not surprised by your diversionary tactics. You are trying to divert attention from the illness that Islam is suffering from. Islam is infected with a strain of terrorism that runs way too deep for comfort. I believe that that strain of terrorism can be eradicated on by Muslims attacking these terrorists. Instead of doing that, you are busy trying to claim that these people are not part of Islam. Here's a tip - don't tell the world that these terrorists are not a part of Islam. Tell these mfers that they are not part of Islam. And say it emphatically. Show it in action. Then the world will agree that Islam is not a religion that condones terror.

Sorry, I do not agree with you. If it was "Islamic terrorism", none of the terrorised would be Muslims. Do a Google on how many Muslims have had their heads chopped off or shot and killed by these barbarians. Each religion/race/creed is not free from extremists, including Islam, Hinduism, blah blah blah, as Klixxxer put it. If you want me to go to Iraq and pick up a gun against Zarqawi, thats not happening. Countries of Muslim majority (not "Islamic countries") are doing what they can to root out terrorism from within their own land and abroad. Pakistan has arrested/captured/killed terrorists elements. Indonesia has done the same. Saudi Arabia has acted out against terrorist elements and sources of funding.

If you want Muslim nations to start invading other nations on false premises, thats a ridiculous suggestion. Just as India (and the Hindus) could not prevent the razing of Babri mosque, or the Gujurat massacre, the Muslims of the world also can only take action to a certain extent, which I believe they are doing.

Anything else? :)


I'm sorry, what did you say the going rate for Al Qaeda terrorists was in Pakistan? 3 billion US dollars, was it? And that Hot Deal does not include OBL?

hahaha. lets say India got pwned. Pakistan is now a key ally and India is left sucking its toe.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: Aimster
This is why Pakistan and India hate each other because of people like you two. I just hope the leaders do not think like this.

wrong. I like India. I have family in India. But this dude just wont stop talking crap and takes everything in the context of Hinduism or India or Pakistan :roll:
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: Sultan

hahaha. lets say India got pwned. Pakistan is now a key ally and India is left sucking its toe.

Ooohhh, we didn't get to be America's b!tch :(
 
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Originally posted by: Aimster
This is why Pakistan and India hate each other because of people like you two. I just hope the leaders do not think like this.

Yep, pretty much. Some people just cannot be critical of their own countries, people, etc. in any possible way.
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: Aimster
This is why Pakistan and India hate each other because of people like you two. I just hope the leaders do not think like this.

wrong. I like India. I have family in India. But this dude just wont stop talking crap and takes everything in the context of Hinduism or India or Pakistan :roll:

I was talking only about Islam. You dragged in Hinduism and India - obviously because you had no genuine response. I am glad you like India. I have no thoughts about Pakistan, whatsoever - except when you try to spread lies about India and Hinduism, I feel compelled to respond (though most people on these boards already attribute no credibility to you).

Aimster, rather than have you slot me with this charlatan, I will back off from this thread. I've heard many a slur against me in my life. Never one as hurtful as a comparision with a person like Sultan :(
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan

hahaha. lets say India got pwned. Pakistan is now a key ally and India is left sucking its toe.

Ooohhh, we didn't get to be America's b!tch :(

but you got to be Pakistan's :D

You are just trying to incite flames now, since you don't have any valid arguments in this topic. I have been badly insulted by a comparision with you. If it makes you feel any better my day is now shot (now by RabidMongoose as well :( ). They don't kid when they say don't fling a stone into sh!t.
 
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Originally posted by: athithi
I've heard many a slur against me in my life. Never one as hurtful as a comparision with a person like Sultan :(

LOL

I can't even magine the trauma that such a comparison could cause.
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Aimster
This is why Pakistan and India hate each other because of people like you two. I just hope the leaders do not think like this.

Yep, pretty much. Some people just cannot be critical of their own countries, people, etc. in any possible way.

Why the over-simplification of the India-Pakistan issue? Do you really believe that a Democratic, Secular country is comparable to an Islamic Fundamentalist, Military Dictatorship? Indians hate Pakistan because of it's support for Terrorism - not because I am arguing with Sultan on these boards.
 
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Originally posted by: athithi
Do you really believe that a Democratic, Secular country is comparable to an Islamic Fundamentalist, Military Dictatorship?

No.

I'm stating that much of this argument seems to come from an inability to be critical of a country, people, etc. Maybe you are more defensive when Sultan, an insane Muslim extremist from Pakistan, becomes critical of India? Similar to how I find Europeans at times become defensive when an American becomes critical of Europe.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: Aimster
This is why Pakistan and India hate each other because of people like you two. I just hope the leaders do not think like this.

wrong. I like India. I have family in India. But this dude just wont stop talking crap and takes everything in the context of Hinduism or India or Pakistan :roll:

I was talking only about Islam. You dragged in Hinduism and India - obviously because you had no genuine response. I am glad you like India. I have no thoughts about Pakistan, whatsoever - except when you try to spread lies about India and Hinduism, I feel compelled to respond (though most people on these boards already attribute no credibility to you).

Aimster, rather than have you slot me with this charlatan, I will back off from this thread. I've heard many a slur against me in my life. Never one as hurtful as a comparision with a person like Sultan :(

My genuine response was that no religion/race/creed is free from its extremist elements. Period. Learn to accept that and Ganesh will be pleased.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: athithi
Klixxer, I don't want any more PMs from you.

EDIT: RabidMongoose, I don't think it should matter. This was his second PM and I already told him to respond in the thread if he wanted to continue the discussion. But I'll take it out all the same. I don't want to see an ATer get banned simply because he's behaving like a petulant child :)

Ok, you could have said that in the PM you stupid fvck.

I try to stay out of the thread for obvious reasons, but your thick skull won't ever be able to get them.
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Aimster
This is why Pakistan and India hate each other because of people like you two. I just hope the leaders do not think like this.

Yep, pretty much. Some people just cannot be critical of their own countries, people, etc. in any possible way.

Why the over-simplification of the India-Pakistan issue? Do you really believe that a Democratic, Secular country is comparable to an Islamic Fundamentalist, Military Dictatorship? Indians hate Pakistan because of it's support for Terrorism - not because I am arguing with Sultan on these boards.

Whats wrong with an "Islamic Fundamentalist Military Dictatorship" if events like razing of mosques and massacres in Gujurat occur in a "Democratic Secular" nation? :D
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: athithi
Do you really believe that a Democratic, Secular country is comparable to an Islamic Fundamentalist, Military Dictatorship?

No.

I'm stating that much of this argument seems to come from an inability to be critical of a country, people, etc. Maybe you are more defensive when Sultan, an insane Muslim extremist from Pakistan, becomes critical of India? Similar to how I find Europeans at times become defensive when an American becomes critical of Europe.


Do you really believe that I am not critical enough of India? Perhaps what I think of as fair criticism towards my country is *EDIT seen as "soft" criticism. I know I am not blind to the drawbacks of my country. I am fiercely proud of it, but I don't fool myself into thinking that everything is perfect back in India. But unlike most third world countries, India is headed in the right direction. I think that is probably something that a lot of non-Indians view with more skepticism than Indians do.

If you really want to hear what I think is wrong with India, wait for someone to start a thread comparing India and the US :) But between India and Pakistan, there is no comparision. One is a secular, democracy while the other is a religious fundamentalist, dictatorship. How can I critize India w.r.t Pakistan? Maybe they have hotter women?
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Sultan

hahaha. lets say India got pwned. Pakistan is now a key ally and India is left sucking its toe.

Ooohhh, we didn't get to be America's b!tch :(

but you got to be Pakistan's :D

You are just trying to incite flames now, since you don't have any valid arguments in this topic. I have been badly insulted by a comparision with you. If it makes you feel any better my day is now shot (now by RabidMongoose as well :( ). They don't kid when they say don't fling a stone into sh!t.

Hurts me more to be compared to a nutcase like you :(
 

Sultan

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: athithi
Do you really believe that a Democratic, Secular country is comparable to an Islamic Fundamentalist, Military Dictatorship?

No.

I'm stating that much of this argument seems to come from an inability to be critical of a country, people, etc. Maybe you are more defensive when Sultan, an insane Muslim extremist from Pakistan, becomes critical of India? Similar to how I find Europeans at times become defensive when an American becomes critical of Europe.


Do you really believe that I am not critical enough of India? Perhaps what I think of as fair criticism towards my country is not seen as "soft" criticism. I know I am not blind toe the drawbacks of my country. I am fiercely proud of it, but I don't fool myself into thinking that everything is perfect back in India. But unlike most third world countries, India is headed in the right direction. I think that is probably something that a lot of non-Indians view with more skepticism than Indians do.

If you really want to hear what I think is wrong with India, wait for someone to start a thread comparing India and the US :) But between India and Pakistan, there is no comparision. One is a secular, democracy while the other is a religious fundamentalist, dictatorship. How can I critize India w.r.t Pakistan? Maybe they have hotter women?

I think the sole presence of Aishwariya evens out the "hotter women" aspect.
 

Klixxer

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In this thread we have established that no muslim, hindu, christian or jew can ever do anything wrong.

Or at least established that two followers of two different religions are as thick as redwoods and would NEVER admit to any mistakes of their respective religions. These people, ladies and gentlemen, are known as extremists.

/Thread closed.
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: athithi
Klixxer, I don't want any more PMs from you.

EDIT: RabidMongoose, I don't think it should matter. This was his second PM and I already told him to respond in the thread if he wanted to continue the discussion. But I'll take it out all the same. I don't want to see an ATer get banned simply because he's behaving like a petulant child :)

Ok, you could have said that in the PM you stupid fvck.

I try to stay out of the thread for obvious reasons, but your thick skull won't ever be able to get them.


If you still have anything further to discuss, please do it in the thread.

Do you recall seeing this statement? It was in my first response to your first PM. I only posted your second foul-mouthed PM here (and took it out because you would stand a good chance of getting banned for the content). Look, I understand your frustration at being handed your backside in a discussion. But it happens to all of us. It probably happened to me too just now - I ended up cooking my own goose by continuing to post in this thread when I could've just as easily quit while I was ahead. I ended up being compared to Sultan *shudder*. Don't take it so personally. You lost this argument in an embarrassing manner, perhaps I will lose the next one similarly. Cheerio :)