How many Americans deaths will Trump be directly responsible for due to COVID-45

[UberNeuman]

What? Is there a scientist on this Earth that can actually say what the outcome will be? No. There isn't.

Back off.

lol. Eyes but can not see. It wouldn't matter what infomation is presented to you... So....

 

[Paratus]

So the New York Times has an article on modeling the transmission of COVID 19 in the US under different levels of control. They used data on the outbreak up until 3/13.

Infected people were infecting on average 2.2 others and there were around 11 times more cases undetected than found.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/20/us/coronavirus-model-us-outbreak.html

it’s a good read

 

[Bitek]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1241046275249881089

Oh dear God we're screwed

 

[shortylickens]

For profit health is not equipped to deal with something like this. This is exactly the kind of health problem that is kryptonite to the industry. We need the poll to be revised with a top level of 2 million dead.

Government run healthcare isnt equipped to deal with much of anything thanks to american laziness and stupidity. Look at everything else the fed tries to control.

 

[hal2kilo]

Meanwhile over in unrealityvile, Fox, Laura's pushing Trump's drug of choice in an effort to defend this clown of a president.

 

[Jhhnn]

Government run healthcare isnt equipped to deal with much of anything thanks to american laziness and stupidity. Look at everything else the fed tries to control.

Yeh, don't need no gubmint dependency. Better to depend on the benevolence of ruthless roller coaster capitalism.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Meanwhile over in unrealityvile, Fox, Laura's pushing Trump's drug of choice in an effort to defend this clown of a president.

Does she have a good feeling it will work?

 

[sactoking]

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Here's the March graph of confirmed positives in Nevada using data from The Nevada Independent (Link). Sure doesn't look good from a "we've got it contained" point of view.

Updated figures through Friday:

 

[hal2kilo]

Does she have a good feeling it will work?

I don't get anybody on Fox, except for a few of their personnel, to be dispensers of truthful information.
Be that as it may, there is some evidence that in some cases, it may ameliorate the symptoms. Just because it's an FDA approved drug, does not mean it does not have some significant side effects.
Oh, and they are still on a campaign to blame China for spreading the virus. It's their mandate at the moment.

 

[zzyzxroad]

I don't get anybody on Fox, except for a few of their personnel, to be dispensers of truthful information.
Be that as it may, there is some evidence that in some cases, it may ameliorate the symptoms. Just because it's an FDA approved drug, does not mean it does not have some significant side effects.
Oh, and they are still on a campaign to blame China for spreading the virus. It's their mandate at the moment.

You don't like the Hannity hour of conspiracy propaganda? Top notch entertainment.

 

[Lanyap]

It seems that Trump is frustrated and wants this to all end quickly. Think about it. His biggest accomplishment is the economy and the stock market. The stock market is doing horribly, and the economy will be soon to follow. It's not Trump's fault, but how is reacting is his fault. He's doing a horrible job IMO.

That’s because he doesn’t give a shit about the USA or anyone else, he only cares about himself.

 

[alien42]

By straight numbers or percentage? We've got 5x the population of Italy...

you are completely disregarding the time factor.

reality is that Italy and the US graphs are still identical when time is removed.

pathetic as usual.

 

[alien42]

Look at everything else the fed tries to control.

as if who runs the fed doesn't matter at all, i call BS.

 

[shortylickens]

Meanwhile over in unrealityvile, Fox, Laura's pushing Trump's drug of choice in an effort to defend this clown of a president.

Link?
I dont know who Laura is.

 

[alien42]

Be that as it may, there is some evidence that in some cases, it may ameliorate the symptoms. Just because it's an FDA approved drug, does not mean it does not have some significant side effects.

it isn't about the side effects, it's about the dosage and effectiveness. the dosage is a fine line between OK and deadly and the effectiveness has never existed in humans and outside of a lab.

 

[alien42]

Link?
I dont know who Laura is.

Laura Ingraham, i hate Fox and know her name.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Link?
I dont know who Laura is.

I believe she is rush limbaugh's daughter.

 

[cytg111]

By straight numbers or percentage? We've got 5x the population of Italy...

True. I dont think that fact works to your advantage, quite the opposite.

 

[DarthKyrie]

So are the 20 people that voted 0 going to change their votes seeing as we have already had way more than 0 deaths from this. I have thought that over 1 MILLION people in the United States and more than 50 MILLION worldwide will die since December.

 

[pmv]

*shrug* no one knows. Its all guessing.

No, it's making reasonable predictions based on both first principles reasoning about how infectious diseases spread, and on the vast wealth of data about past and present epidemics. It's dishonest to call that 'guessing'.

 

[pmv]

Why can't we have both?

*shrug* no one knows. Its all guessing.

I mean, one could claim that you can't know how this trend line is going to go from this point on, but it seems rather unlikely it's going to immediately level off (image nicked from that worldometers site's current graph for the US). Especially as we have examples from all the countries who are further along the line than the US. And also know something about how infectious diseases work.

 

[pmv]

Though there's the version of the graph Trump will probably present at a press conference

 

[ultimatebob]

That sort of outburst from Trump makes me wonder if there will actually be an election. He's neither a genius, nor, more importantly, does he seem that stable.

Yeah... If the reporters keep pushing his buttons and triggering temper tantrums like that, we might not even need an election to get of Trump. He'll get declared mentally unstable and the 25th Amendment takes care of this issue for us.

 

[ultimatebob]

Yeah as someone "in the trenches" of the IT side of this, there's A LOT of work happening right now.
Hospitals are in a scramble to assemble surge plans. One hospital I'm working with is literally preparing to stand up tents outside their hospital and convert conference rooms to bedded units. The physical space is one thing, but the logistics of having the proper equipment or hookups for that equipment is another thing entirely. Let alone the staff to cover that many extra patients.

We are also on a massive push to get telemedicine and telephone encounters built out so that providers can essentially do facetime consults with patients. This keeps sick people away from others, cuts down on PPE needs and can speed up the process.

The drive through testing is a really weird situation that is a massive pull on staffing, PPE, and documentation. It's not as simple as just driving your car through and getting a q-tip stuck up your nose. There is a need for registration, documentation and lab resulting that needs to be coordinated. These things take a ton of resources to build and deploy.

Yeah, I got a request to expand web service capacity for some of the health insurance companies that I work with. They're getting ready for the onslaught of patients as well.

I already stood up some pretty large server clusters for 2019 Open Enrollment, though, so I think that they'll hold as long as zombies do not invade the server room

 

[JockoJohnson]

So are the 20 people that voted 0 going to change their votes seeing as we have already had way more than 0 deaths from this. I have thought that over 1 MILLION people in the United States and more than 50 MILLION worldwide will die since December.

Poll says how many people will die due to Trump's indifference/incompetence. I still see zero dead due to that. Meanwhile, on the other end of the spectrum, I see a bunch of paranoid or giddy people thinking that more than 1 million will die. Wow! You guys really do live in an alternate reality.