How long do you think children should expect parents to support them?

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: spidey07
If you still living at home at age 24 you are a complete failure at life honestly.

:roll:

Truth hurts. Please explain why you are living at home at age 24 and are unable to provide for yourself? I expect a child's response from a psychology point of view but would be extremely surprised if it wasn't.

Truth hurts? :roll:

"Please explain?" :roll:

Nobody owes you any explanation whatsoever. Not everyone wants to be spidey07. Not every family is spidey07's family. If anything you need to get off your high horse and recognize life is different for everybody, and people will live their lives as they please with whomever they please, thank you very much.

 

[nakedfrog]

If your kids still want to live with you at the age of 23-27, you did something wrong.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: joshsquall


A lot of parents (and children) are smart enough to realize that building up some savings before buying a house or renting a real place is a good thing. Starting off adult life in debt isn't exactly the best thing.

That's the child response I was waiting for. You have no stake in life or livelyhood, no consequences to decisions, that's the child speaking and the parents enabling.

Not having those consequences to your decisions still make one mentally a child.

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: joshsquall


A lot of parents (and children) are smart enough to realize that building up some savings before buying a house or renting a real place is a good thing. Starting off adult life in debt isn't exactly the best thing.

That's the child response I was waiting for. You have no stake in life or livelyhood, no consequences to decisions, that's the child speaking and the parents enabling.

Not having those consequences to your decisions still make one mentally a child.

What? You're batshit crazy.

 

[Baked]

Just gimme all the money.

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog
If your kids still want to live with you at the age of 23-27, you did something wrong.

Question isn't really about living at home (despite Spidey's interpretation) but about financial support even after they're out of the home. My coworker has a daughter who decided to quit a full ride scholarship to college and is shocked that mommy and daddy aren't going to give her the car and are now going to charge her (well under market, with insurance paid) rent to use it. She even called her grandparents to whine about how unfair her parents are! And she's 22.

 

[Gunslinger08]

I think the problem in this thread is applying the attitude of a minority to everyone. Come to think of it, that's the problem with just about every argument on ATOT.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Truth hurts? :roll:

"Please explain?" :roll:

Nobody owes you any explanation whatsoever. Not everyone wants to be spidey07. Not every family is spidey07's family. If anything you need to get off your high horse and recognize life is different for everybody, and people will live their lives as they please with whomever they please, thank you very much.

Sure life is different, but the child still can't put a roof over it's head, get food or leave the nest. I want to know why you are so scared. Adulthood is defined by being self-reliant and caring for others. If you're staying to take care of your parents then that's a role reversal of the parent/child relationship and nobody would argue against that.

 

[*kjm]

Originally posted by: spidey07
If you still living at home at age 24 you are a complete failure at life honestly. If you can't put a roof over your head and provide for your life and self, well that's failure at life.

Area707 - by providing a roof over the head still classifies as failure of the child. The now mid 20s child can't even meet it's basic needs without assistance. The child is a failure at life and the parents are enabling this failure.

18 is the bar. Above and beyond that will only lead to the child's failure in life.

Said the person with over 38,000 posts to one forum

 

[zanejohnson]

i started working at 16, bought my first car when i was 16, got a better job at 17 or so, and thus bought a better car (a 91 Eagle Talon TSI awd)... right out of high school my parents went through a nasty divorce and my dad moved far away, and my mom got the house, which she sold to me and my now wife... i had just started my business at this time, and was making ALOT of money off of my other "business"

the "other business" eventually caught up with me and i spent some time in jail, it was the worst mistake of my life... nowdays i just run my legit computer business, i have one employee, and my wife handles my books.... its up and down, some weeks i'll bank, and some weeks we have to scrape to get by...but our kids are ALWAYS well taken care of, they come first no matter what...luckily this week i had a good week, profited around a grand

last year on my tax return i claimed $46,000 net income... so we're not doing great, but we're not living in poverty at least

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: joshsquall


What? You're batshit crazy.

I'm batshit crazy for asking that you have a stake in your decisions with no safety net? Welcome to adulthood.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Truth hurts? :roll:

"Please explain?" :roll:

Nobody owes you any explanation whatsoever. Not everyone wants to be spidey07. Not every family is spidey07's family. If anything you need to get off your high horse and recognize life is different for everybody, and people will live their lives as they please with whomever they please, thank you very much.

Sure life is different, but the child still can't put a roof over it's head, get food or leave the nest. I want to know why you are so scared. Adulthood is defined by being self-reliant and caring for others. If you're staying to take care of your parents then that's a role reversal of the parent/child relationship and nobody would argue against that.

You still dont get it. What people do is not up to you, its up to them. Your opinion is worthless.:thumbsdown:

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: zanejohnson
i started working at 16, bought my first car when i was 16, got a better job at 17 or so, and thus bought a better car (a 91 Eagle Talon TSI awd)... right out of high school my parents went through a nasty divorce and my dad moved far away, and my mom got the house, which she sold to me and my now wife... i had just started my business at this time, and was making ALOT of money off of my other "business"

the "other business" eventually caught up with me and i spent some time in jail, it was the worst mistake of my life... nowdays i just run my legit computer business, i have one employee, and my wife handles my books.... its up and down, some weeks i'll bank, and some weeks we have to scrape to get by...but our kids are ALWAYS well taken care of, they come first no matter what...luckily this week i had a good week, profited around a grand

last year on my tax return i claimed $46,000 net income... so we're not doing great, but we're not living in poverty at least

So how long do you expect to support your kids? Since you're apparently the first parent in here... Do you anticipate providing a car/rent/food til they're 18 or longer?

 

[Gunslinger08]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: joshsquall


What? You're batshit crazy.

I'm batshit crazy for asking that you have a stake in your decisions with no safety net? Welcome to adulthood.

No, you're batshit crazy for thinking everyone who doesn't do exactly what you did is wrong, lazy, and a perpetual child. Staying at home to save money for a house instead of wasting it on rent isn't a bad thing.

You're completely talking out of your ass. What are you, 21?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat


You still dont get it. What people do is not up to you, its up to them. Your opinion is worthless.:thumbsdown:

So - what is your reason for still living at home? Answer the question, I've given you outs.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Originally posted by: zanejohnson
i started working at 16, bought my first car when i was 16, got a better job at 17 or so, and thus bought a better car (a 91 Eagle Talon TSI awd)... right out of high school my parents went through a nasty divorce and my dad moved far away, and my mom got the house, which she sold to me and my now wife... i had just started my business at this time, and was making ALOT of money off of my other "business"

the "other business" eventually caught up with me and i spent some time in jail, it was the worst mistake of my life... nowdays i just run my legit computer business, i have one employee, and my wife handles my books.... its up and down, some weeks i'll bank, and some weeks we have to scrape to get by...but our kids are ALWAYS well taken care of, they come first no matter what...luckily this week i had a good week, profited around a grand

last year on my tax return i claimed $46,000 net income... so we're not doing great, but we're not living in poverty at least

That's cool. When I was around 15-16 I also registered a PC business since people were constantly calling me for PC support anyway, so figured I'd make it a business and have set rates. When I started college I did not have time for it anymore so I basically "closed" but never officially closed the business name or anything, in fact, it's still registered. Eventually I'll use the same name for a hosting business. The company I work for does hosting though so it may possibly be conflict of interest but as long as I don't target our customers I should be ok.

If ever I lost my job I'd probably run my business again. I'm still at home, but I'd try to make enough money so I can at least rent my own store downtown and perhaps setup a living space there. Come to think of it, that would be kinda awesome.

 

[theblackbox]

to go on topic of the title of the thread for a minute, i don't think it only covers adults living at their parents house, but also adult kids getting money from their parents to live. you know, to each their own.

i think anyone that has time to post 38000 times here should consider anything they say as being somewhat questionable.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: joshsquall


No, you're batshit crazy for thinking everyone who doesn't do exactly what you did is wrong, lazy, and a perpetual child. Staying at home to save money for a house instead of wasting it on rent isn't a bad thing.

You're completely talking out of your ass. What are you, 21?

This is basic psychology and the mind. The child view is what you're posting - no real consequences of your actions.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: joshsquall


A lot of parents (and children) are smart enough to realize that building up some savings before buying a house or renting a real place is a good thing. Starting off adult life in debt isn't exactly the best thing.

That's the child response I was waiting for. You have no stake in life or livelyhood, no consequences to decisions, that's the child speaking and the parents enabling.

Not having those consequences to your decisions still make one mentally a child.

It is much more worthwhile for a child to sit in front of a forum all day trying to bash people thirty eight THOUSAND times to feel better about themselves. Seriously... the last one to talk about getting a life of ANY sort should be you. All you do is whine and try to act superior on an internet forum. I suggest you get out and get yourself a real life.

 

[TridenT]

Originally posted by: *kjm

Originally posted by: spidey07
If you still living at home at age 24 you are a complete failure at life honestly. If you can't put a roof over your head and provide for your life and self, well that's failure at life.

Area707 - by providing a roof over the head still classifies as failure of the child. The now mid 20s child can't even meet it's basic needs without assistance. The child is a failure at life and the parents are enabling this failure.

18 is the bar. Above and beyond that will only lead to the child's failure in life.

Said the person with over 38,000 posts to one forum

Indeed. I wonder if Spidey07 lives with his parents since he has so much free time to post on AT.

I think it is alright to live with your parents if you are going to college at 23-27. I would expect full time college. Kids should be moving out around 20 if they are not going to college.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: joshsquall

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: spidey07
If you still living at home at age 24 you are a complete failure at life honestly.

:roll:

Truth hurts. Please explain why you are living at home at age 24 and are unable to provide for yourself? I expect a child's response from a psychology point of view but would be extremely surprised if it wasn't.

You wouldn't listen to reason anyway, so why would you expect a reasonable answer?

Fixed for correct (and polite) response.

 

[shadow9d9]

Btw, I didn't do it, but it is incredibly smart to stay at home for 1-2 years to save up for a down payment on a house.

 

[zerocool84]

I live at home and am 24 and have more than enough money to live on my own. I just choose not to. Doesn't bother me and I could care less what anybody else thinks. I'm saving up for a house. I'm not someone who's ganna waste money on rent when I can live at home and save up. I still paying bills and rent and filling up the fridge but saving a lot of money that is going towards my house. I'm not someone that wants to pay rent for the rest of their life. I know I'm not someone that's going to be making 100k a year but I love my job and I'm comfortable in it.

 

[vi edit]

Situation based. I moved out and never looked back when I was 18.

My sister on the other hand flirted on and off with living on her own until she was 23. She moved in and out 3 or 4 times.

Not everyone is created equaly. School just came much easier to me than to my sister. I was able to land decent paying jobs. She on the other hand went the hair school route and busted her ass 40 hours a week working on her feet but it doesn't pay squat the first several years until you build up a client list.

For the amount of money she earned she had to compromise on the neighborhoods she rented in. Had her car broke into twice, and was almost physically assaulted another time.

It just wasn't worth it to "not be a failure" and live on her own.

She moved back in with our parents until she got married and her and her husband could afford their own place on their joint income.

We can't all be engineers, doctors, accountants, IT guys, ect pulling in far above national average incomes. As long as you are putting in a honest effort and trying to better yourself then living with your parents until you get on your feet is hardly being a "failure at life".

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9


It is much more worthwhile for a child to sit in front of a forum all day trying to bash people to feel better about themselves.

Funny, I don't feel better about myself from this shit. It's an attempt to help others become an adult.