How Has Tipping Personally Affected You?

[CZroe]

Just raise the prices of food at restaurants and do away with tipping, everyone wins.

Not people who enjoy cheaper prices or better service. They lose their incentive to serve you well.

 

[umbrella39]

You guys are crazy. I already broke down all these arguments in the other thread. Go find them there.

LOL. It's actually quite amusing to read some of the replies of people who have CLEARLY never stepped foot in a real fine dining restaurant using their experience as line cooks at IHOP as their litmus test about servers i.e. as if the sommelier goes around from table to table explaining and pairing wines (if they even have a sommelier) and talking out their ass about food runners. A well trained server makes the need for a sommelier obsolete anyhow.

The funniest part is when they tip their hand (no pun intended) and swing from the nuttz of the cooks. The part no one will accept or address is that when an untrained or understaffed BOH fucks up your food repeatedly their paycheck are still the same. Doesn't cost them a dime. But when the BOH ruins the diners experience it's all the people making $2.20 an hour in the FOH who suffer. You can do your job faultlessly but you are at the mercy of others for your financial well being. Pretending that they have experience with waiters complaining about tips as a reason to hate the service industry only further proves how full of shit they are.

Go back to your Sizzler, eat your USDA Select sirloin and endless salad bar and shut the fuck up. Zzzzz.

 

[Ns1]

Not people who enjoy cheaper prices or better service. They lose their incentive to serve you well.

for the millionth time, fine dining in Japan eclipses fine dining in the US so bad it's not even funny.

no tipping.

The funniest part is when they tip their hand (no pun intended) and swing from the nuttz of the cooks. The part no one will accept or address is that when an untrained or understaffed BOH fucks up your food repeatedly their paycheck are still the same. Doesn't cost them a dime. But when the BOH ruins the diners experience it's all the people making $2.20 an hour in the FOH who suffer. You can do your job faultlessly but you are at the mercy of others for your financial well being. Pretending that they have experience with waiters complaining about tips as a reason to hate the service industry only further proves how full of shit they are.

a cook that keeps fucking up should be fired. in a no tipping model, NOBODY loses out when someone fucks up. therefore, no tipping is clearly the best/fair method for all.

 

[CZroe]

for the millionth time, fine dining in Japan eclipses fine dining in the US so bad it's not even funny.

no tipping.



a cook that keeps fucking up should be fired. in a no tipping model, NOBODY loses out when someone fucks up. therefore, no tipping is clearly the best/fair method for all.

...and you pay out the nose for it. That WAS part of my post.

 

[JSt0rm]

for the millionth time, fine dining in Japan eclipses fine dining in the US so bad it's not even funny.

That statement isn't even quantifiable.

no tipping.

a cook that keeps fucking up should be fired. in a no tipping model, NOBODY loses out when someone fucks up. therefore, no tipping is clearly the best/fair method for all.

"a server that keeps fucking up should be fired" See what I did there?

And these places are RAISING THE PRICES 20% TO 30%. The guest always loses when somebody fucks up and they have no recourse to show that displeasure immediately. But thats cool. Lets have an irrational hate of a entire subset of people who work at restaurants because reasons and demand we pay more.

As I said way back... The owners have for decades and decades tried to find ways to take the tip money. They are not interested in having you pay less. They are interested in raising the prices by the same amount (20%) and then pay out only 10% of that to the staff. Nobody gives a shit about paying jesus the dishwasher who cant even say the word "plate" in english more money. Or the alcoholic line cook who has made poor life choices for the last 10 years - hes not going to get more money because that position doesnt pay more. The market rate for a line cook is like $15-$20 a hour in a big city. No owner is gonna pay those guys more because they dont matter beyond can they do the job or not.

The chef and sous chef may see a raise. The owner is certainly going to see a raise (this is possibly the chef). FOH will see a 50% or more cut. BOH will see no changes.

 

[cbrunny]

This one time I was leaning way over and then I fell over.

 

[JSt0rm]

This one time I was leaning way over and then I fell over.

Dont do that with a tray of drinks.

 

[JSt0rm]

I remember a new line cook at my place who on request of a guest said he could make a veil Parmesan (because if a guest requests something you do it) even though we dont serve that normally. So the chef allows him to make the veil parm. The guy forgot to salt the food (salt to taste - most of you probably dont understand what that means) and it came back and something else was ordered. That guy was gone the next day.

Well run restaurants at a high end space have zero tolerance for mistakes. Thats foh or boh.

 

[LevelSea]

I remember a new line cook at my place who on request of a guest said he could make a veil Parmesan (because if a guest requests something you do it) even though we dont serve that normally. So the chef allows him to make the veil parm. The guy forgot to salt the food (salt to taste - most of you probably dont understand what that means) and it came back and something else was ordered. That guy was gone the next day.

Well run restaurants at a high end space have zero tolerance for mistakes. Thats foh or boh.

 

[JSt0rm]

I wore a suit. Maybe they can put that thing on the drone that brings you your crablegs and giant coke refills.

 

[boomhower]

None but a lot of them get screwed, and not in a good way. $2/hr plus tips is nuts. Tipping should be done away with, if a waitress doesn't give good service that is a managerial issue, shouldn't be dealt with on a customer to customer basis.

 

[Zorba]

show me where the bad server touched you...

This post is so sexist, and hateful. Making light of people who've been molested all so you can try to make yourself look better. Just sick. This is probably the worst thing I've ever seen on the internet. I can't believe how mysinogistic you are.

[/SJW]

:sneaky:

 

[rh71]

Not people who enjoy cheaper prices or better service. They lose their incentive to serve you well.

The farking incentive (to bring someone their food and to write down what was actually stated) is they get to keep their job. Avoid complaints like many other customer-facing jobs. If you can't make even P/T money being a server, then you don't deserve to work anywhere. How's that for a kick in the ass? We go out a few times a month and this "superior service" is overrated. They are doing the job they are supposed to do. I don't know how many different ways that can be stated.

 

[JSt0rm]

You not being able to comprehend what I'm writing is your problem not mine.

for those wondering...

http://www.coolasscinema.com/2010/07/hong-kong-godfather-1985-review.html

 

[Carson Dyle]

Tipping ruined my liver.

Because of the Hookup.

For many years I would get off work at 5PM, get home and then head over to to my neighborhood bar by 5:30 or 6PM. I'd leave at 9 or 10PM, or maybe midnight, or I'd close the place at 2AM.

Of course I knew all the bartenders. There was Shelly, Tony, Nick. Charlie, I've known Charlie for years ... I know his wedding anniversary (same as my Mom's birthday), I know his son's batting average, how much he paid for his new pickup truck... When I'd leave shitfaced at 10PM or at 2AM, my tab was always $12. I toss him $20 or $25, say goodnight, do it again the next day.

Without tipping there would be no Hookup. I couldn't afford to spend $50 or $60 drinking every night. Charlie, who has a PhD in English Literature, wouldn't be working as a bartender and making $400 on a busy Friday or Saturday night. Without tipping, Paul, the owner of the bar, would probably be making a lot more money because all of his employees wouldn't be stealing from him.

Without tipping, my liver would be much healthier.

 

[CZroe]

The farking incentive (to bring someone their food and to write down what was actually stated) is they get to keep their job. Avoid complaints like many other customer-facing jobs. If you can't make even P/T money being a server, then you don't deserve to work anywhere. How's that for a kick in the ass? We go out a few times a month and this "superior service" is overrated. They are doing the job they are supposed to do. I don't know how many different ways that can be stated.

Anyone can do it well enough to keep their job. What's the incentive to go above and beyond while being extra friendly? What's their incentive to do better than another server or to take on as many as they can handle?

 

[SlitheryDee]

I tipped before I even ate last weekend. There's a chinese buffet place I like that charges before they seat you. I knew I didn't have any cash, and service is so consistently good there that I went ahead and wrote the tip on the credit card receipt before I even knew who was going to be my server. I suppose I've been officially indoctrinated into the U.S. "tips should be guaranteed" culture now.

 

[soulcougher73]

Why do you care so much how tipping effects other people? Stop worrying about what other people feel

 

[Carson Dyle]

I tipped before I even ate last weekend. There's a chinese buffet place I like that charges before they seat you. I knew I didn't have any cash, and service is so consistently good there that I went ahead and wrote the tip on the credit card receipt before I even knew who was going to be my server. I suppose I've been officially indoctrinated into the U.S. "tips should be guaranteed" culture now.

If you pay before you eat at the buffet and pay by CC, how else would you tip, except with cash left as you leave?

 

[SlitheryDee]

If you pay before you eat at the buffet and pay by CC, how else would you tip, except with cash left as you leave?

Once I came back to the front counter and asked for my receipt to write the tip in before I left. I guess they can run the transaction again later.

 

[Carson Dyle]

Once I came back to the front counter and asked for my receipt to write the tip in before I left. I guess they can run the transaction again later.

Yeah, tips can be added later on most systems if they haven't batched out all of the CC transactions. But that sure sounds awkward.

I remember years ago (like 20 or more) going to Country Buffet for lunch with the guys from work. You also pre-paid there. I don't remember if we tipped at all. Probably left a couple of bucks with the pile of several hundred dirty plates that we left.

 

[Ns1]

Anyone can do it well enough to keep their job. What's the incentive to go above and beyond while being extra friendly? What's their incentive to do better than another server or to take on as many as they can handle?

God forbid a server actually try to do a good job for a fair wage, like every other job in existence.

 

[CZroe]

Anyone can do it well enough to keep their job. What's the incentive to go above and beyond while being extra friendly? What's their incentive to do better than another server or to take on as many as they can handle?

God forbid a server actually try to do a good job for a fair wage, like every other job in existence.

This may come as a shock to you, but many in those other jobs also only try to do good enough that they won't get fired. Tipping evolved so that the service industry does not suffer this same apathy.

 

[Geekbabe]

Figure if I can go out to eat or to have food delivered I can also afford to tip. I have enjoyed some awesome meals over the years & met some great servers and delivery people.

When gas prices were sky high I got to talking to some delivery folks about how it impacted their bottom line. The gratitude I received for a decent tip amazed me.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Man, this thread is almost as much fun as a cyclist thread.