Excellent point IHMYJ, people always think everyone else are idiots and they alone are the smart, the ones that know how to drive the best, etc., and yet isn't it ironic that they would be so willing to trust their safety on the highway to the same people they criticize. "Just because you can't control your vehicle at 80mph doesn't mean I can't control mine at 120" LISTEN TO YOURSELF!! Say your flying down the highway at 120mph, then someone cuts you off (they never saw you coming because you were moving to damn fast; WELL WHAT NOW SPEED RACER? You just killed yourself and a dozen other people, kids, mothers, fathers, because you were to dumb to take your "l33t ski11z" to the track where the only one in danger would be yourself.
jlee
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I had my MR2 to 120mph on an interstate in Vermont (traffic wasn't a problem at the time) -- and strangely enough, the road feels just as solid as the NHRA drag strip I've been known to visit..
If you're the only car on the road, you aren't really endangering anybody else..now that doesn't mean people should be taking everything as fast as it can go, but I don't see the harm in taking a capable vehicle to those speeds..if nobody else is around.
Has anybody who's saying that 120mph is always dangerous in all non-track enviroments ever actually taken a vehicle over 100?
Weaving through traffic at 120 is another matter altogether..
understandable. i think what most people agree on is the fact that driving 120 mph on the freeway IS safe as long as there is very little to no traffic around and their car can handle it. i dont think anybody is dumbfvck enough to be doing 120 mph on anything other than mostly straight/open freeway.
problem with traffic is that most cars/tires on the road are not designed to handle speeds in excess of 100 mph. even if its a straight stretch of road. ive taken a camry down a straight road before at 100 and while it was fine, i could definately feel the car become slightly shaky. probably wouldve gotten far more hairy if i had pushed it to 120. we're not even remotely close to the point in which the majority of cars on the road can travel at such speeds, so until then, its best to lay off the speed for a bit (except in wide-open stretches of road in a decent car- still maintaining high alertness) i think the instilled speed limits do a good job in compromising/optimizing between transit speed and accomodation to the capabilities of the majority of today's vehicles.
flexy
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if you "DUNNO" what the dangers are of going 120mph on the freeway then PELASE turn in your license for God's Sake.
I dont think they give out licenses to people "who don't know"....or if they KNEW they give out licenses to such people then they'd probably revoke it.
The news/papers are full of sad stories where some d*mbf*ck thought its SAFE to do this at 3:00am...or any other "extraordinary" circumstances.
Too bad that (very often) those d*mbf*cks kill other, innocent and more responsible people.
I dont think they give out licenses to people "who don't know"....or if they KNEW they give out licenses to such people then they'd probably revoke it.
The news/papers are full of sad stories where some d*mbf*ck thought its SAFE to do this at 3:00am...or any other "extraordinary" circumstances.
Too bad that (very often) those d*mbf*cks kill other, innocent and more responsible people.
I never said I drove around at 120mph, I'm just responding to all the people that react like "OMG WHAT ARE YOU, NUTS?!?! 120MPH?!?!?!?!" 120MPH is not insanely fast...maybe if you're driving a ford festiva. I'm just saying 120MPH is not insane, so don't freak out about it.
Thank you. Perhaps I came off a little over the top, but I've been known to do that before
I guess the build quality of american cars and the gross influx of SUV's really has affected the driving public All that snake dancing must've paid off because something tells me it will many years before I could every possibly share the road with you...
All joking aside, you have to admit that it is never a question whether or not someone is capable of safely handling their vehicle at high speeds, it's about the fact that they must integrate themselves with all the other drivers on the road and that is something totally beyond anyone's ability to control.
flexy
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you make the exemplaric mistake of having wrong "confidence" and wanna tell people it doesnt matter whether you go 80 or 120 ?
The point is that NOONE who ever had an accident or died *expected* it before hand. Everyone THINKS he has control and its not a problem.
Problem is only accidents ALWAYS happen unexpected and you will have mus LESS control over your car going 120 than, lets say, 80.
How would you feel if you were driving in Germany? The speed is your main concern, yet over there those speeds are normal. When I was there, it felt just like driving on the NJ turnpike, except nobody was worried about getting pulled over for going 100.
some people are just chosen by natural selection to be more talented than others in some fields, sometimes in all fields.
this also applies to driving; some people just can't drive for crap. Driving is more about experience though (only involves a little bit of talent)
city driving is a lot different from freeway driving, don't compare them.
there are some open interstates out there that is nice to do speeds up to 150 (i did it at ca-71) , just make sure your car is able to do so. Doing top speed is really about how good your car is, and how fast your reaction is. Of course experience goes into that equation as well, and the road condition is the main factor.
this also applies to driving; some people just can't drive for crap. Driving is more about experience though (only involves a little bit of talent)
city driving is a lot different from freeway driving, don't compare them.
there are some open interstates out there that is nice to do speeds up to 150 (i did it at ca-71) , just make sure your car is able to do so. Doing top speed is really about how good your car is, and how fast your reaction is. Of course experience goes into that equation as well, and the road condition is the main factor.
Yes and I'm sure that's fine for germany, though despite the fact that they don't throw a "license" to any idiot with 4 hours to kill and $15 in their pocket they still have horrendous and predominantly fatal accidents due to the speeds involved in the crashes.
Yet another "vin diesel" wannabe who simply doesn't grasp just how bad drivers are in the US. You mention all these different considerations that may affect ones ability to handle excessive speeds, going so far as to claim genettic dispostion, and somehow ignore the fact that none of that amounts to a hill of beans if you make a decision that is incompatible with the decision of another driver you're sharing the road with. What if some guy sigs when you expect him zag? Good job Turbo, you've killed yourself and god knows how many other people to satisfy your Fast and Furious teenage fantasy. Try to answer now since you won't have the chance later; was it worth it?
Well, fatal accidents do happen on the our freeways (Autobahn). However, they are the safest roads we have.
But I have to admit i feel slightly uncomfortable with US citizen going at those speeds. If the US drivers on our roads are any indication, then either driving school is extremely bad or these ppl just dont think about the traffic around them.
Wrong, the trucks (usually like on a perlchain) on the right side of our mostly 2lane (1direction) freeways drive 80km/h and the majority drives anywhere from 120-170 with the occasional 100km/h driver and quite a few 200+ km/h drivers
hell yeah it was worth it, can't wait til i drive a mclaren f1 at 200 mph. The engine sound at redline just turns me on.
btw i did it 3am, 3 in the morning, there was NO traffic at all. You can flame me all you want if i did this before or even after rush hours.
those of you who don't have the need for speed will never understand this.
the need for speed can be almost compared to drugs, cigs, or alchahol - you just gotta have it.
and like smoking and drinking - there is a consequence, and i accept that consequence. Maybe someday when i get old i'll decide quit like how some people quit smoking or drinking when they eventually realize how stupid it is. Maybe i won't live until that day and die on the track.
and i don't do this everyday, i just did it once. Just like how 98% of the teens in United States tried weed at least once.
some freeways in united states are capable for cars to run at 180-200 mph, and people do it all the time with exotics - why flame on teenagers when old guys do it too. Do your phucken homework before you jump into conclusions. And not ALL teenagers are like what you have described - only a portion of it.
I mentioned my truck earlier so I am going to post it now. Someone mentioned shaking and other stuff at high speeds. I don't feel shaking or hear anything wrong at ~170km/h. Here is a picture.
http://www.f150online.com/galleries/pictureview.cfm?pnum=89803&anum=4457
http://www.f150online.com/galleries/pictureview.cfm?pnum=89803&anum=4457
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