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Lifer
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speg
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Expose, spaces, app switcher, what more do you want? Do you have any links to these security reports? I feel a hundred times safer on my Macbook than I do on my Windows box. Same goes for usability.
Demo24
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- Aug 5, 2004
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Just don't take one apart. I'm in the process of attempting to fix a friends screen on their macbook, and boy is it hell to take the damn thing apart. It's no wonder they cost so much when they have all these damn specialty screws all over the place. I feel for the people making them.
Also the first computer I've need online picture instructions to tell me how to disassemble it. I wonder if Apple designs their products to be as difficult as possible to repair. :disgust:
Also the first computer I've need online picture instructions to tell me how to disassemble it. I wonder if Apple designs their products to be as difficult as possible to repair. :disgust:
She didn't spend $2k. It is the kid money that he earned at his summer & weekend job.Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: dbk
tell them to return that shit or resell it.. at least the macs retain their value
Would you rather have her spend the $2k and have the kid crawling to apple for help or she can save $1500 and have the kid come to you for help?
And, I would gladly help the kid out if he asked.....heck I would have purchase a laptop with Linux and give it to the kid if he asked me.
> How can you not buy a macbook?
Because you can get a decent non-Apple laptop AND a PS3 Slim AND an Xbox 360 Elite for the same price?
Of course Mac owners don't know anything about gaming so that won't matter to them
Because you can get a decent non-Apple laptop AND a PS3 Slim AND an Xbox 360 Elite for the same price?
Of course Mac owners don't know anything about gaming so that won't matter to them
Or, a PS3 ++ 42"-46" LCD and still have money left over to buy games.Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
> How can you not buy a macbook?
Because you can get a decent non-Apple laptop AND a PS3 Slim AND an Xbox 360 Elite for the same price?
Of course Mac owners don't know anything about gaming so that won't matter to them
halik
Lifer
- Oct 10, 2000
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Security-wise yes, but not in the UI aspect. Apple spends a lot of money on UI research and most of their things eventually trickle down to other OSs (dragging files over folders opens the folders, dragging files into terminal writes out the file path, expose etc.). The only thing that was missing up to 10.3 was spaces/virtual desktop.
mugs
Lifer
- Apr 29, 2003
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Reasons one might not buy a Macbook:
1. Doesn't come with Windows. How much is a retail non-upgrade version of Windows? $200?
2. Macbooks are expensive, and many people don't need the build quality of a Macbook.
My $400 Compaq laptop has served me well and has done everything I need it to do for 2 years. I did let my company buy me a Macbook as my work computer though. I'm not going to complain if someone else wants to spend $1500 on a laptop.
1. Doesn't come with Windows. How much is a retail non-upgrade version of Windows? $200?
2. Macbooks are expensive, and many people don't need the build quality of a Macbook.
My $400 Compaq laptop has served me well and has done everything I need it to do for 2 years. I did let my company buy me a Macbook as my work computer though. I'm not going to complain if someone else wants to spend $1500 on a laptop.
Bateluer
Lifer
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Apple definitely has some sleek designs, but its not worth the price premium. Looking at a Macbook Pro 15in right now. The cost to upgrade from 4GB of RAM to 8GB(2x4GB) of RAM is 1000 dollars. A single stick of 4GB SO-DDR3 at Newegg right now is under 300. To upgrade from a 320GB 5400rpm hard drive to a 500GB 7200rpm hard drive is 150 dollars, compared to 90 dollars at Newegg. Adding a 24in LCD is 900 dollars, compared to 180 for a cheaper Acer with the same specs or 300 for a nicely spec'd Dell Ultrasharp. All the software they charge 200 to 400 dollars for can be found at Sourceforge for no cost or on the retail shelves for under 100.
A 15in Macbook Pro with the 2.66Ghz C2D, 8GB of RAM, 500GB 7200RPM hard drive, 24in Apple Cinema display, with no extra software or additional warranty comes in at 4,048. A Sager NP8662 system configured at PC Torque with a 3.06Ghz C2D(T9900), 8GB of DDR3, a GF 260M GTX with 1GB of VRAM, 500GB 7200 RPM hard drive, Zero Dead Pixel policy, BluRay Burner, Vista Ultimate 64, Office 2007 Professional, 3yr Labor/1yr parts, and 1yr accidental damage protection plan all comes out to around 3,808. 3,693 if you pay cash. Through in a high end 24in display and you're still under the price of the Macbook with a substantially more powerful system. The 4 thousand dollar Macbook comes equipped with an nvidia 9400M IGP, for crying out load.
A 15in Macbook Pro with the 2.66Ghz C2D, 8GB of RAM, 500GB 7200RPM hard drive, 24in Apple Cinema display, with no extra software or additional warranty comes in at 4,048. A Sager NP8662 system configured at PC Torque with a 3.06Ghz C2D(T9900), 8GB of DDR3, a GF 260M GTX with 1GB of VRAM, 500GB 7200 RPM hard drive, Zero Dead Pixel policy, BluRay Burner, Vista Ultimate 64, Office 2007 Professional, 3yr Labor/1yr parts, and 1yr accidental damage protection plan all comes out to around 3,808. 3,693 if you pay cash. Through in a high end 24in display and you're still under the price of the Macbook with a substantially more powerful system. The 4 thousand dollar Macbook comes equipped with an nvidia 9400M IGP, for crying out load.
mafia
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- Jul 10, 2008
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Please don't compare Macs to Porsches! And PCs to Civics. Come on? I think its the other way around. Buying a Mac is like buying a Honda Civic for the price of a Carrera GT. On the other hand, buying a PC is like buying a Honda Civic, but getting a Porsche in return. Way more powerful, play lots more games, and at the forefront of CPU and Graphic Card tech.
TurtleCrusher
Lifer
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halik
Lifer
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Uhhh that argument doesn't work - macs are obviously considered premium goods compared to say dell laptops given the cost alone. Same thing goes for the construction (aluminum frame, skin vs plastic).
People pay more for premium stuff, it's as simple as that. Ford sells the same car as both lincoln and ford, lexus does the same thing with the ES.
mafia
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But Porsches are fast. How often do you see a Mac playing Crysis? Premium has to be at the forefront of technology. People don't just buy a Mercedes S class because its made out of better materials. They buy it because it has a more powerful engine (CPU), newer technologies, etc..
lxskllr
No Lifer
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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: speg
Why so much hate?
the lack of freedom and the way apple deals with customers and such bothers me. OS X is meh, as far as im concerned (my brothers imac has given me no shortage of headache) and their products are pretty much overpriced. i just have absolutely zero desire to own anything made by apple.
i dont like microsoft, but i definitely have windows on a couple of things. i wouldnt even run OS X in a vm.
That's exactly how I feel, except I do like Microsoft. I'd take Linux every day of the week in preference to OSX.
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