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Muse
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I'm available. I have about 1/2 dozen hammers including a sledge hammer.
Lost_in_the_HTTP
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So, the only thing Republicans can agree on right now - who will not be speaker. So far I've seen 5 8 candidates bandied about, none even approaching that mythological "moderate":
So far, possible Speaker candidates in the next round, with Bergman, Hern and Scott confirmed to press they are running for sure, others at least publicly talking about it:
- Hardcore Insurrectionist Jack Bergman
- Hardcore Insurrectionist Kevin Hern
- Hardcore Insurrectionist Mike Johnson (La)
- the confused Tom Emmer, an election denier who signed onto Texas AG lawsuit to overthrow the election, but contrarily voted to certify the 2020 election on J6, and randomly alternates between sucking up to Trump and advising others against Trump
- Austin Scott, who lost previously to Jordan, an "old-school" extreme conservative - opposes allowing any access to abortion and opposes same sex marriage, among other positions - but still supports the idea of democratic votes and not der Fuhrer uber alles (which makes him anathema to the fascist wing)
Remains unlikely that anyone can get the warring factions to unite behind them.
Edits: now add Hardcore Insurrectionist Pete Sessions as a 6th candidate so far
+Hardcore Insurrectionist Byron Donalds as #7
+Hardcore Insurrectionist Jodey Arrington "seriously considering it" as #8
So far, possible Speaker candidates in the next round, with Bergman, Hern and Scott confirmed to press they are running for sure, others at least publicly talking about it:
- Hardcore Insurrectionist Jack Bergman
- Hardcore Insurrectionist Kevin Hern
- Hardcore Insurrectionist Mike Johnson (La)
- the confused Tom Emmer, an election denier who signed onto Texas AG lawsuit to overthrow the election, but contrarily voted to certify the 2020 election on J6, and randomly alternates between sucking up to Trump and advising others against Trump
- Austin Scott, who lost previously to Jordan, an "old-school" extreme conservative - opposes allowing any access to abortion and opposes same sex marriage, among other positions - but still supports the idea of democratic votes and not der Fuhrer uber alles (which makes him anathema to the fascist wing)
Remains unlikely that anyone can get the warring factions to unite behind them.
Edits: now add Hardcore Insurrectionist Pete Sessions as a 6th candidate so far
+Hardcore Insurrectionist Byron Donalds as #7
+Hardcore Insurrectionist Jodey Arrington "seriously considering it" as #8
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Coalfax
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Maybe the weird will happen and 7 republicans will vote for Hakeem Jeffries being the Dems seems to at least be all be behind one guy... Until we have a Speaker, we have no acting government to do. well, anything. Congress needs to remember they work for the people, not their parties. So much has gotten skewed these last 8 or so years...
The only reason they'd do that would be to go back to what they love--and are actually good at--doing: obstructing, and finding ways to blame Democrats for it. Having Jeffries as Speaker is bad for them in many ways of course but it also let's them point their childish fingers and screech "look how bad it is under Jeffries" while they do their best to make it so.
This country is full of rubes who have bought into the horseshit that government is nothing but a swamp taking your hard-earned money that could have been used for your next F-150. Those are the people who have elected people like Gaetz. You can bet they are working really hard on how to deflect blame, it's basically the only thing they probably are working on, other than war plans against "woke" and other dastardly concepts now that abortion was knocked off the list.
This country is full of rubes who have bought into the horseshit that government is nothing but a swamp taking your hard-earned money that could have been used for your next F-150. Those are the people who have elected people like Gaetz. You can bet they are working really hard on how to deflect blame, it's basically the only thing they probably are working on, other than war plans against "woke" and other dastardly concepts now that abortion was knocked off the list.
dullard
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Combine that with their concept that government is bad, and you have a bunch of "leaders" that are going to prove that government is bad by being bad at governing.
It's only been like 3 hours since they officially dumped Gym, undoubtedly count of Speaker-wannabees will rise from current ~8. They have until noon Sunday to formally file with Republican leadership that they want to run.
Trump previously pushing for Stefanik (last week) makes her another possible candidate for sure.
GodisanAtheist
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We create what we fear. Fearful people create nightmares. But you don't have to be full of fear yourself to suffer from it as it radiates out of others.
Fear walks hand and hand with disgust and disgusting people act in ways that eventually lead others to find them disgusting.
Republicans have fallen in love with griping, without any idea or even intention to fix anything. All they do with their fear is to throw a monkey wrench into the works in case any change will make things worse than they've already made them.
The tide comes in and the tide goes out. It's going out for them I think. I would be happy as Larry but I see only poor sad machines that are programmed to fail, not the evil monsters they seem.
Fear walks hand and hand with disgust and disgusting people act in ways that eventually lead others to find them disgusting.
Republicans have fallen in love with griping, without any idea or even intention to fix anything. All they do with their fear is to throw a monkey wrench into the works in case any change will make things worse than they've already made them.
The tide comes in and the tide goes out. It's going out for them I think. I would be happy as Larry but I see only poor sad machines that are programmed to fail, not the evil monsters they seem.
We still have the ability to amend the constitution, the means to do so has never changed. Just because Congress can't get 2/3 vote to do so, doesn't change that fact.
I actually had to look up "chuse" myself, as I thought it was a mistake as well. It's an old archaic spelling that was commonly used back then. It has become obsolete now days.
If they do give the temporary speaker extended powers, which I believe isn't constitutional, which is just my opinion, and really doesn't matter now days, as the constittuion's interpretation is always changing to server those in power and not the people, then the line of Sussession for Presidency is ALL democrats currently.. Since the speaker orf the house is vacant, if anything did Happen to the President/Vice President, then Patty Murrey would become President..
United States presidential line of succession - Wikipedia
Indus
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She doesn't hand out hand jobs like Bobo or is a crazy nutter like MTG.
Hate to say it but she's quite intelligent and perceptive to her district's needs as she ousted a dem to get into congress.
She's quite quiet in her voting patterns.. hell even Liz Cheney was more conservaterrorist and voted in line with Trump till she grew a spine.
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This is a bit off topic but I'm glad to see Rs opposing Jordan get death threats.
These assholes KNOW for a fact that implied violence is part of Trumpism and they were happy to use it to their advantage for a very long time. Maybe some minds that aren't completely ossified will get the message that this is NOT how we do things.
These assholes KNOW for a fact that implied violence is part of Trumpism and they were happy to use it to their advantage for a very long time. Maybe some minds that aren't completely ossified will get the message that this is NOT how we do things.
They still seem baffled by the fact that the leopards are coming to eat their faces.
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SteveGrabowski
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It was pretty funny seeing Trump's base think Gym had any chance at speaker. Gym as speaker would drive the nation to default, which would trash the stock market and cost a lot of rich people money. The dominant governing principle of this nation is that the rich can not feel pain for any reason whatsoever. GOP representatives know their job is to further enrich the ruling class, and the culture war is just there to get useful idiots to vote for candidates who will cut taxes on the elite.
There were way more than 25 house Republicans who didn't want Gym. But they have to pretend to like him for their base they con to vote for them, and they can let purple district reps be the lightning rods for voting against Gym. The same way senate Democrats use Manchin as a lightning rod for killing popular ideas like the $15 national minimum wage. They can pretend they were for it but were just hamstrung by Manchin.
There were way more than 25 house Republicans who didn't want Gym. But they have to pretend to like him for their base they con to vote for them, and they can let purple district reps be the lightning rods for voting against Gym. The same way senate Democrats use Manchin as a lightning rod for killing popular ideas like the $15 national minimum wage. They can pretend they were for it but were just hamstrung by Manchin.
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@SteveGrabowski - Sooo cynical. But very accurate. There's also the fact that some of them just wanted to f*** with Jordan and who wouldn't jump on that cockroach if given the chance. Hahaha
The Rs are a minority rule party. As more and more hard core members go underground, literally, every year, they've had to come up with new ways to cheat.
The Rs are a minority rule party. As more and more hard core members go underground, literally, every year, they've had to come up with new ways to cheat.
You know, a lot of republicans I have spoken to over the years have fantasized about having a civil war.
Well, now they have one.
It is just not the one they planned on.
Well, now they have one.
It is just not the one they planned on.
It's only natural for people who were most bullied into conformity as children would be the first to turn to it as adults to get their way. They forgot about all the rage that got repressed and boils within waiting for a chance to express the moment memories of that trauma come their way as threats. It's not just in congress but all over the world that the repression created by authoritarianism is boiling to the surface.
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Lost_in_the_HTTP
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